Any predicitions on XBox 360 for Black Friday? Looking at the Spring Value @ $241.85

alkemyst

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Currently $241.85 after $50 amazon credit (I am using that for a second headset and controller).

My kids have quite a few original 360 games, but their Xbox was lost.

I don't really need games, I want the 250GB version and 2 headsets/2 controllers.

What deals to go for/hold out for?

Thanks!
 

robvp

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it might even get lower, considering the xbox one will come out soon after
 

purbeast0

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our guess is as good as yours. personally i would just hold out until the x1 is out, which is rumored to be right around black friday, because it would only make sense that they drop the price somewhat when the new console comes out.
 

Dumac

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I am hoping for a PS3 price drop when the PS4 comes out. My Ps3 broke :(
 

robvp

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I am hoping for a PS3 price drop when the PS4 comes out. My Ps3 broke :(

i sold mine to afford the ps4 :|, it was a launch 60gb backwards compatible one too, ended up selling it for 165ish i think, along with an ipad 2 to bank the ps4 money
 

Sulaco

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I am looking for those in the know. I know about the XBOne.

Nobody is really "in the know" this far out.

Closer to November we'd probably have a better idea. Either some great price drops are on the way because of the launch of the new consoles, or the prices hold firm as shortages of the new stuff keeps demand for the old generation solid.

It's just too early to tell.
 

Dumac

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i sold mine to afford the ps4 :|, it was a launch 60gb backwards compatible one too, ended up selling it for 165ish i think, along with an ipad 2 to bank the ps4 money

D: why would you do that

Now you can't play PS2 OR PS3 games!
 

iluvdeal

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I was curious and looked up how much brand new classic consoles sell for:

$700 NES: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-NE...0716049902?pt=Video_Games&hash=item48581ea9ee

$800 SNES: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Ninte...0606438649?pt=Video_Games&hash=item5af1f540f9

$500 Sega Genesis: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SEGA-Ge...1160901141?pt=Video_Games&hash=item2a2e07fa15

$780 Nintendo 64: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-64...0941169409?pt=Video_Games&hash=item2324cb7701

I never thought of buying a console new and socking it away to sell 20+ years later. Maybe I'll do that if I score a PS3 or 360 cheap on Black Friday?
 

Arkaign

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If you can wait a couple of months, people won't be able to GIVE away 360s. It's like this every single time a new console comes out.
 

Bill Brasky

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If you can wait a couple of months, people won't be able to GIVE away 360s. It's like this every single time a new console comes out.

This. I'm gonna wait until I can pick one up for less than $100 and then pick up all the Gears and Halos for $74!
 

alkemyst

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If you can wait a couple of months, people won't be able to GIVE away 360s. It's like this every single time a new console comes out.

Well with the XBOne not being backwards compatible I think many will hold on to them.
 

Sulaco

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If you can wait a couple of months, people won't be able to GIVE away 360s. It's like this every single time a new console comes out.

I seriously doubt that.

First off, you're not going to be able to walk into many retailers and see stacks of new generation consoles this year. At all.

With demand high and supply low on the new consoles, there's not much incentive to "give away" 360s if its the only console your consumers can get for several months.
 

Arkaign

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I seriously doubt that.

First off, you're not going to be able to walk into many retailers and see stacks of new generation consoles this year. At all.

With demand high and supply low on the new consoles, there's not much incentive to "give away" 360s if its the only console your consumers can get for several months.

No, not retail 360s, used ones. Mark my words, CL will be jam freaking packed with 360s this holiday season.

In fact, I can guarantee we'll see 360 slims for $100 or less easily found on CL in every metro area, with bundles to boot.

Regardless of backwards compatibility or not, old gen consoles ALWAYS, I repeat ALWAYS get dumped in large enough numbers to drive the price to the floor in the used market.

Hell, 360s are already nearly impossible to sell used for any reasonable price. I recently got in a Jasper 360, and had a hard time getting $50 for it, even with a 120GB hard drive and two controllers.

Prices even for slims are already mediocre :

http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/ele/4000599771.html

$120, Slim with 3 games, Kinect, Wireless pad.

I don't know if this is the first time you've ever seen a new console come out, but I've been watching this happen since 1985. NES/SMS come out, suddenly Ataris and C64s are $5-$10 at garage sales. SNES/Genesis come out (not backwards compatible obviously unless you bought were one of the 5 people who bought the SMS converter for Genesis) and NES/SMS were immediately piling up used for cheap. PS1/Saturn/N64 came out, all the previous consoles got dumped for chump change, etc, etc, etc.

It repeats every_single_time. Sometimes you have to keep your eyes open for the deals, but they're out there even in less than ideal situations. I recently got a Wii (red Mario limited model) with about 40 games for $35. A single one of those games was Xenoblade, which I easily sold for $100 by itself.

People just have no idea, they get a new system or get bored with the old one, and just dump the old. If the console is still current-gen, then prices support it to some degree, if the console is last-gen, then forget it.
 

Sulaco

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No, not retail 360s, used ones. Mark my words, CL will be jam freaking packed with 360s this holiday season.

In fact, I can guarantee we'll see 360 slims for $100 or less easily found on CL in every metro area, with bundles to boot.

Regardless of backwards compatibility or not, old gen consoles ALWAYS, I repeat ALWAYS get dumped in large enough numbers to drive the price to the floor in the used market.

Hell, 360s are already nearly impossible to sell used for any reasonable price. I recently got in a Jasper 360, and had a hard time getting $50 for it, even with a 120GB hard drive and two controllers.

Prices even for slims are already mediocre :

http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/ele/4000599771.html

$120, Slim with 3 games, Kinect, Wireless pad.

I don't know if this is the first time you've ever seen a new console come out, but I've been watching this happen since 1985. NES/SMS come out, suddenly Ataris and C64s are $5-$10 at garage sales. SNES/Genesis come out (not backwards compatible obviously unless you bought were one of the 5 people who bought the SMS converter for Genesis) and NES/SMS were immediately piling up used for cheap. PS1/Saturn/N64 came out, all the previous consoles got dumped for chump change, etc, etc, etc.

It repeats every_single_time. Sometimes you have to keep your eyes open for the deals, but they're out there even in less than ideal situations. I recently got a Wii (red Mario limited model) with about 40 games for $35. A single one of those games was Xenoblade, which I easily sold for $100 by itself.

People just have no idea, they get a new system or get bored with the old one, and just dump the old. If the console is still current-gen, then prices support it to some degree, if the console is last-gen, then forget it.

Ahhh, well, used and CL is an entirely different ball game. I was talking new, at retail. I was under the impression Alky was looking at new/store stuff only.

You're likely right there. :)
 

exdeath

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I was curious and looked up how much brand new classic consoles sell for:

$700 NES: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-NE...0716049902?pt=Video_Games&hash=item48581ea9ee

$800 SNES: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Ninte...0606438649?pt=Video_Games&hash=item5af1f540f9

$500 Sega Genesis: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SEGA-Ge...1160901141?pt=Video_Games&hash=item2a2e07fa15

$780 Nintendo 64: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-64...0941169409?pt=Video_Games&hash=item2324cb7701

I never thought of buying a console new and socking it away to sell 20+ years later. Maybe I'll do that if I score a PS3 or 360 cheap on Black Friday?

Won't happen.

That was when gaming was niche.

Current generation consoles are a commodity that have been mass produced in billions in 4 dozen package variations and 3+ versions and have had the longest run of any console. A360/PS3 will have all the collector and resell value of VHS tapes.

Also nobody knew better then to save stuff. Now you probably have a million people like you seeing the value of older stuff thinking to buy and keep new stuff.

Its like people that think their 2007 Shelby GT500s are going to be collectable one day and sell for $1 million. Nope. Too many of them and too many people thinking the same thing = recipe for NOT becoming rare or collectable.

Nothing ever became rare or collectable due to people planning ahead because of past things. Things become collectable when they are niche and few people care about them when they are new, not when millions hope to hop on the bandwagon hoarding the next rare thing. Too late, you missed the boat already.

Its because of how rare and collectible that old consoles are, and people and resellers knowing about this in retrospect, all but guarantees we won't ever see any consoles from here on out become rare or collectable again, save for low volume special editions like a Zelda DS here and there. And even those sell out on day one to resellers and end up on eBay where one guy has 30 of them at 10x markup if you don't preorder one.
 
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Arkaign

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Ahhh, well, used and CL is an entirely different ball game. I was talking new, at retail. I was under the impression Alky was looking at new/store stuff only.

You're likely right there. :)

Yeap used. Of course used non-slims is a real crapshoot, but the slims seem super reliable. Fairly soon they will be so cheap used that buying new seems almost insane. That $120 Slim w/Kinect + games will be more like $50-$60 tops come post-XB1 launch.

It's not that everyone drops their current console, but every item has a supply/demand that determines price. The market for used 360s is already very very tough. Now add in everyone grabbing their XB1 (or even PS4 for those that jump ship that way), and say X to XX% of those people drop their 360s on CL. Suddenly the supply of used units available has increased massively, forcing the price way way down.

Used PS3s are currently much higher than used 360s, but I still see them dropping massively in used value as well. Part of the mass gaming movement simply sees last gen as 'useless old garbage'.
 

smackababy

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There is a new Xbox 360 model releasing soon with the Xbox One I believe. And with the new PS3 flash memory version just released today, prices should drop.