I have no doubt they "profile" all the time. I watch "Cops" on Court TV, and love it. More than a few times I've seen 'em pull a guy over because, "He didn't signal a lane change." Or, some lame reason like that. Next thing you know, they're pulling crack out of the glove box. Criminals get off on technicalities as often as people "get harassed".
Yep everybody use to know my grandfather was a cop, and was respected for it. It was a good thing. But he left after, as he put it, they made him out to be a meter maid. He use to walk beats, cruise neighborhoods and just talk to everybody and be nice and "serve and protect". But after they started using the police force to keep blacks down and worse for him was making cops be another way to raise money for little things he just left. In the end he said cops are juts another tax for the government. Serving and protecting was a back burner issue now. Raising funds was moving up.
Some people I know that became cops in my old hometown talk about the ?speeding division?. All it is made up to do is catch speeders. Once they had a guy sit on a tractor with a radar gun and radio down the road when he caught someone speeding. He told me it made the city piles of money in just 1 day doing that, over 100tickets once.
Then you have insurance companies ?donating? new radar guns to the police force to use. So it?s not hard to see why my grandfather left the force and more and more people today have more distrust of the police.
Nebor
Lifer
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Police are different from regular people. They get sh!t on every day, and keep coming back for more. You can't help but have a different attitude about them.
What's funny is the average persons attitude towards a local police officer versus an FBI agent or an Air Marshall.
I'd say local cops dug their own graves with the massive traffic enforcement of the last 20 years.
What's funny is the average persons attitude towards a local police officer versus an FBI agent or an Air Marshall.
I'd say local cops dug their own graves with the massive traffic enforcement of the last 20 years.
how much does a cop get paid these days?
i'm in my sophmore year at college and thinking about becomming one.
i'm in my sophmore year at college and thinking about becomming one.
this is weird, from what I hear from one other person who, he made the job sound like cinch. Not that I believe him 100%, but I find awkward to hear a cop talk about how they only have to work 3 days a week, and just drive around.
I've only received 1 speeding ticket in my 6 years of driving. From what I recall, I wasn't pissed at the cop or anything. In my head I was just thinking "oh man, i got caught". So you have 1 more person on your side!
In Houston they pad their pay with the overtime, and some make as much as 100K or more! LOL... of course that is what the last news report said. :roll:
I got arrested for an MIP once.
I was kinda pissed at the cops. But they were doing their job. But outta 50 kids, it was just me and another kid. That bothered me more.
While in the cell for a mere six hours, all I could think was, "What would Michael Scoffield do?"
I was kinda pissed at the cops. But they were doing their job. But outta 50 kids, it was just me and another kid. That bothered me more.
While in the cell for a mere six hours, all I could think was, "What would Michael Scoffield do?"
Svnla
Lifer
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Police in Plano, TX <north of Dallas> will start out with $47,102 as recruit, $50,834 in his/her first year, $54,280 in 2nd year, $63,614 in 3rd year. Those are not including OT and other bonus stuffs. Their salary is in the top 10th scale.
Now this is in Texas, low cost of living, so those salaries are pretty decent. The requirement is that you have to have a Bachelor degree from an accredited college.
http://www.planopolice.org/Employment/F...%20-%20POLICE%20OFFICER%20SALARIES.pdf
They will have the entrance test next month, June 17th.
On a personal note, I have no problem with good cops, they are just doing their jobs. I just can't stand bad/egomaniac cops. I used to drive a sports coupe and one cop pulled me over around 12:30 a.m. <after I just got out of library and studied for my MBA>. He said I was speeding and I asked to see his radar reading because I know I didn't speed. His words was "either you sign this ticket or go to jail, I am not showing you anything". Of course, I signed it and then went to traffic school <cost me some money and time>.
There's nothing "wrong" with the people who become cops. And yes, cops can make mistakes; it just so happens that becoming a cop was their first one.
The police in my town don't protect and serve. They do whatever is nessecary to make sure that the rich people moving in don't feel threatened. I have been walking to my friends house before at 2 AM (why? because I can. I like fresh air) and a police officer will see me, pull over, and start asking me the myriad of questions.
Where you going?
Why so late?
What's your name/address/age?
What are you doing again?
Well don't take too long.
Last time I told him I would take as long as I f*cking want. He threatened to arrest me. because you know, saving gas by walking that half mile and being slow about it can mean trouble.
it wouldn't even bother me if this didn't happen like every other time I walk out at night.
Hell, when I do drive, or one of my friends are driving, we get followed until the town line, or we hit the onramp to the freeway.
The best part is, I really don't commit that much crime.
I'm not a G-D criminal. I'm not what the poeple in this town need to be protected against. It's the little sh1ts who go around shooting out windows with bb guns. or the punks who raid unlocked cars at night. I mind my own business, and all I catch is sh1t for it from the local pigs.
I don't commit violent crimes. I don't commit larceny. I don't even speed much. (hence the cops never getting to pull me over. I know how it works)
Lately, i have been as intentionally unhelpful in whatever answers i give the cops.
What's your name?
What are doing? "standing out in the road talking to you"
What were you doing? "walking home"
Where do you live? "that way"
The conversation usually goes downhill from there. But they always ask the same questions. I think they were all raised on the same farm.
Either way, I can small bacon a mile away, even when their windows are up. So you know what? I say it proudly. F*CK COPS. and if you're a cop. F*CK YOU.
The police in my town don't protect and serve. They do whatever is nessecary to make sure that the rich people moving in don't feel threatened. I have been walking to my friends house before at 2 AM (why? because I can. I like fresh air) and a police officer will see me, pull over, and start asking me the myriad of questions.
Where you going?
Why so late?
What's your name/address/age?
What are you doing again?
Well don't take too long.
Last time I told him I would take as long as I f*cking want. He threatened to arrest me. because you know, saving gas by walking that half mile and being slow about it can mean trouble.
it wouldn't even bother me if this didn't happen like every other time I walk out at night.
Hell, when I do drive, or one of my friends are driving, we get followed until the town line, or we hit the onramp to the freeway.
The best part is, I really don't commit that much crime.
I'm not a G-D criminal. I'm not what the poeple in this town need to be protected against. It's the little sh1ts who go around shooting out windows with bb guns. or the punks who raid unlocked cars at night. I mind my own business, and all I catch is sh1t for it from the local pigs.
I don't commit violent crimes. I don't commit larceny. I don't even speed much. (hence the cops never getting to pull me over. I know how it works)
Lately, i have been as intentionally unhelpful in whatever answers i give the cops.
What's your name?
What are doing? "standing out in the road talking to you"
What were you doing? "walking home"
Where do you live? "that way"
The conversation usually goes downhill from there. But they always ask the same questions. I think they were all raised on the same farm.
Either way, I can small bacon a mile away, even when their windows are up. So you know what? I say it proudly. F*CK COPS. and if you're a cop. F*CK YOU.
MartyMcFly3
Lifer
:roll: You truly are an inspiration to us all.
By the way, being a total dick to cops is about as smart as lighting a match to see where the smell of gas is coming from. You want cops to respect you, to not give you an attitude? Respect them back. Even if they are being a total ass, respect them back. That way you can REPORT them for their attitude and they'll get beefed out for it. (Trust me, they do.)
Put yourself in their shoes and chances are you'll think "Yeah I DO look suspicious walking out here at 2AM by myself." Sure, it's your right to do it. Just like its your right to run like hell if you see a squad car pull around a corner. But it also makes you look pretty fvcking suspicious.
Would you prefer policemen NOT stop random people they see at 2AM, walking around neighborhoods? It's called preventing the possibility of a crime happening. It's called policework. Your name nutcase truly fits if you can't understand that.
Edit: Oh, and FVCK YOU too!
Were you going above the limit? If so, no sympathy from me...I speed like everyone else, but recognize it's a probability game...if I'm speeding less than other people, or I'm going 9 over or less, the probability of me getting pulled over goes down. But it's nonzero, and if I get pulled over I'll be polite and eat my ticket if it comes. None of that stupid "But other people were speeding too!" crap.
Also, why are you crying if it was only a warning?
IMHO more people NEED to get pulled over for not using their signals...I hate them!:|
There's no doubt that profiling works in law enforcement.
You are going to be more successful at stopping crime if you interogate 'suspicious' looking people.
But the problem is that profiling is the same as judging someone. when you profile, you put everyone in a category at fault, even though not everyone in that category is a criminal.
When someone doesn't trust me because I'm young and white, or have a shaved head, that bothers me.
When a police officer intentionally follows my car around at night, that bothers me.
Profiling hurts. Call me a wimp, whatever, but I don't like it when people treat me like a suspect.
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