Any place to start investing for a n00b? $500 base, $50 more per week...

LordJezo

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I know most of the people on here wouldnt know a thing about this but does anyone know or use a place that I could start putting some money into?

Right now I use ING Direct savings and it gets me 2% currently... where else should I start looking?
 

Shockwave

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You mean like a "set it and forget it" kinda deal or an active investment. Scottrade fits the later bill, theres one for the former but damned if I can think of it. E trade I think......
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: Hector13
you might have better luck with somewhere like sharebuilder.com

THAT was it! Sharebuilder! Not E-Trade! I'm dumb this morning.
I was gonna use them but they have unacceptable fees (In my opinion). But on the whole, it looks like a pretty nice setup.

 

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Why the average person feels that they should be buying single stocks is totally beyond me, and outside of the realm of sound investing.

Buy into a mutual fund or index fund or something like that; let the professionals handle your money.
 

LordJezo

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I was thinking about that Skoorb.. ING seems to have quite a few mutual funds but since I know nothing about anything I am not sure what to do.
 

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Originally posted by: LordJezo
I was thinking about that Skoorb.. ING seems to have quite a few mutual funds but since I know nothing about anything I am not sure what to do.
I can't say where to go, but I can say not to start investing in individual stocks. It's a crapshoot at best and a bad, bad move (although I know a lot of the people on ATOT do it, but unless it's just play money it's a bad idea).

 

Zebo

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An index fund. Call some investment houses and get portfolios on what you're interested in.


20th century, Vangaurd etc. I choose social choice growth funds but it's up to you.
 

LordJezo

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Originally posted by: RossMAN
If you are employed, does your employer offer a 401k?

Not yet :(

Only a consultant right now.. still waiting on the full time position.
 

fonzinator

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Originally posted by: LordJezo
I was thinking about that Skoorb.. ING seems to have quite a few mutual funds but since I know nothing about anything I am not sure what to do.
Before you put your money in any investment, do a sufficient amount of research. If you need to learn about mutual funds, there are plenty of web sites that can tell you everything you need to know. There are also seach engines that can find the mutual fund that is right for you. Yahoo! Finance has some great articles and engines. Get yourself a BIG mug of coffee, and start reading. :)

How old are you? Are you looking for short-term, long-term, or retirement investment?
 

LordJezo

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Originally posted by: fonzinator

How old are you? Are you looking for short-term, long-term, or retirement investment?

22. Want to start some long term things early.
 

fonzinator

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Originally posted by: LordJezo
Originally posted by: fonzinator

How old are you? Are you looking for short-term, long-term, or retirement investment?

22. Want to start some long term things early.
A wise decision! Since you don't have employer access to a 401K, perhaps consider a Roth IRA. This will allow you tax-exempt gain on any contributions, up to $2K per year. However, you cannot withdrawl this money until after age 59-1/2 without penalty (there are a few exceptions). If your single income is above $95K/year, there are restrictions on how much you can contribute. If your single income is above $110K, you cannot contribute to a Roth IRA. Max out your contributions to a Roth IRA for the first 10 years of your working life, and enjoy a fatty retirement. :)
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: LordJezo
I was thinking about that Skoorb.. ING seems to have quite a few mutual funds but since I know nothing about anything I am not sure what to do.
I can't say where to go, but I can say not to start investing in individual stocks. It's a crapshoot at best and a bad, bad move (although I know a lot of the people on ATOT do it, but unless it's just play money it's a bad idea).

Thats the worst advice I've heard yet.
Out of the 8 stocks I have been following, 5 have went up, 2 went down and 1 has been hovering.
Mutual funds will nickel and dime you to death on fees.
I use my 401k for funds, and my own investments for stocks.
And, had I put 1000 into each stock I was looking at (8000 total) I'd have... around 15k probably. Ballpark. Thats in...ohhh...2 months time.

 

Zombie

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Yeh, you really can't go wrong with bigname company stock. Companies like walmart, target, walgreen, IBM, Microsoft, BAE will always do good. But I guess the trick is to get in on the right time.
 

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Originally posted by: Shockwave

Thats the worst advice I've heard yet.
Out of the 8 stocks I have been following, 5 have went up, 2 went down and 1 has been hovering.
Mutual funds will nickel and dime you to death on fees.
I use my 401k for funds, and my own investments for stocks.

How did you pick those stocks? How long have you held them? How long do you intend to hold them? What sectors do they represent? Picking individual stocks is for gamblers or people who have the time and energy to research markets and financial statements. I'm risk-averse and prefer to let my money grow steadily instead of trying to pick winners and drop losers.

There are families of no-load mutual funds which charge no purchase or redemption fees. Vanguard's index fund family charges $10 a year as a management fee.
 

brtspears2

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I like mutual funds. Mine, losing recently, but they shoud do fine during the life of the fund.

But then I also "donate" (forced) 7.5% of my take into a retirement plan. $230 a month, ugh.
 

fonzinator

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Originally posted by: LordJezo
What my bank offers:

https://www.affinityfcu.org/retirement/iras.html
The traditional IRA is the first one listed on their page. The Roth IRA is the second. The major difference is that the Traditional has fewer restrictions, but is tax-deferred (meaning you WILL pay tax on your gains). Again, the Roth IRA has more restritions, but is tax-exempt. There is plenty of info out there to educate yourself on these two retirement accounts.

However, maybe you are looking to invest a little more aggressively, take a bigger risk, and perhaps make more! In that case, consider medium/long-term growth mutual funds or perhaps pick your own stocks. Another advantage to this route is liquidity. Your money is your's to do with as you please (not so in an IRA situation). You will pay tax on your gains, however, and you'll have to watch your investments carefully. Remember, the general, long-term trend of the market is north. :)
 

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: LordJezo
I was thinking about that Skoorb.. ING seems to have quite a few mutual funds but since I know nothing about anything I am not sure what to do.
I can't say where to go, but I can say not to start investing in individual stocks. It's a crapshoot at best and a bad, bad move (although I know a lot of the people on ATOT do it, but unless it's just play money it's a bad idea).

Thats the worst advice I've heard yet.
Out of the 8 stocks I have been following, 5 have went up, 2 went down and 1 has been hovering.
Mutual funds will nickel and dime you to death on fees.
I use my 401k for funds, and my own investments for stocks.
And, had I put 1000 into each stock I was looking at (8000 total) I'd have... around 15k probably. Ballpark. Thats in...ohhh...2 months time.
Yeah you're right. My advice was bad. He should throw it all into NVDA stock and cross his fingers. Your personal experiences are not representative of the market as a whole. Fact: The average person who engaged in stock purchasing/selling of individual stocks will do WORSE than the market as a whole. Therefore it's quite reasonable to assume that the minority of investors who can consistently beat the market (of which they are few and far between) REALLY know what they're doing. Those people are not the average joe who just read a website about hot stock picks for the week.

My advice is not only sound, but it's exactly what you'll find from any responsible financial advisor.
 

darkshadow1

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With $500 to start with, if you wanted to get into the stock market, I would recommend opening an account with a discount broker (ameritrade, scottrade) and picking up Spyders...which is an exchange traded fund representing the S&P500 (the 500 largest stocks by market capitalization).

As for picking individual stocks, almost anyone who participated in the market from March or so would have been up quite a bit...but that's more due to market movement than individual stock picking. When starting out, unless you know how to diversify properly using individual names, just start with Spyders.
 

Hector13

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Thats the worst advice I've heard yet.
Out of the 8 stocks I have been following, 5 have went up, 2 went down and 1 has been hovering.
Mutual funds will nickel and dime you to death on fees.
I use my 401k for funds, and my own investments for stocks.
And, had I put 1000 into each stock I was looking at (8000 total) I'd have... around 15k probably. Ballpark. Thats in...ohhh...2 months time.

yeah, that's great. Your 2 month experience in whole 8 names isn't worth sh*t. Especially considering that you didn't even invest in those names. You can't look at return alone, you need to see how much risk you would have taken over that period. It would have been simple to lever 10 to 1 and buy SPY and make a good 300% over the past 2 months, but that doesn't mean anything... you might as well put all your money on red at the casino.

I have to agree fully swith skoorb on this: picking individual stocks is asking for trouble. There are tons of people on the street who have access to much better information and tools than you will ever have (I am one of them, this is what I do for a living!!) and they can't consistently beat the market. And that is their full time job! What makes you think you will be able to?

Your safest bet is to stick with some passive mutual funds, which won't nickle-and-dime you to death (they will actually pay a hell of a lot less in commissions for trading than you and I ever will). Look at something like the s & p 500 or russell 1000 or russell 2000 (small cap names).