Any P4 overclockers with ASUS P4P800 mobo's here?

GreatBarracuda

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This is my first time overclocking so I wanted to know if there are any oc'ers here with the same cpu and mobo as me to make things easier. I want to get my processor to atleast 3.6GHz. I checked out the BIOS and they have these pre-determined settings of 5%, 10%, 20%, 30%. So I tried the first two and it worked fine with very little increase in cpu temps. But when I went to 20%, Windows won't start. Is this because it's not getting enough power? What about manual settings, what should I do to get it to 3.6GHz. CAN I get it to 3.6GHz with my PSU and air-cooling?

Thanks,
GB
 

jhurst

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First off most 3.0's will OC to 3.6. I don't think you should have any problem with that. Next thing I notice with your system is that you are using PC3200. So I ask then ask if you are using the 5:4 divider, b/c if you aren't, YOU NEED TO. You have to make sure that your RAM isn't the reason thats limiting your overclock.

Once your take the RAM variable out of the equation, and you are still having problems, the next thing you are going to need to do is up your Vcore (CPU voltage). Find out the max. FSB that your system will run stable at, and then start increasing voltage and FSB slowly until you find where you are happy at. If you are using stock cooling, increasing your Vcore might cause your temps to go too high. You might need to get a quality HSF (Zalman CNPS7000Cu, Thermalright SP94, depending on your budget).
 

GreatBarracuda

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Thanks for your reply, I have a couple of questions:

1) What do you mean by "using the 5:4 divider", please explain (does it mean FSB on 250MHz and RAM on the default 200 MHz for a ratio of 5:4, if so, then how do I set the FSB to 250MHz manually?)

2) I tried increasing the Vcore from 1.6 to 1.8 and the temps increased from 35C idle to 48C idle (this is in a hot room)

And yes, I was thinking of a good heatsink anyway, so I might as well get one.
 

illusionz3

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1) Yes.
2) 1.8 is a little high I would think, I wouldn't raise the Vcore past 1.625. Asus boards tend to give a little more voltage then reported in bios. Idle temps of 48 could easily reach 70 on load. Not good.
 

futuristicmonkey

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I have a P4P800 Deluxe as well and there is no way you can set the divider. The BIOs does that for you, so don't worry about it.
 

BonzaiDuck

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<<Has anyone seen an overclocking guide for P4P800 (ASUS)?>>

Not really -- just bits and pieces. My experience with it is only recent, but without much trouble. My strategy has been to open up the bottlenecks at the bottom of the memory-hierarchy first. So I went with SATA150 RAID0 on the P4P800. And moving up the hierarchy, I elected to get OCZ gold-edition enhanced Latency memory (2 X 512) 1GB. And -- of course -- they have a full page on the P4P800.

OCZ has a nice database of motherboards with summary information about configuring the memory modules to the board, and with good advice.

My general experience -- with my own machines and those of relatives and friends -- is that there are "trade-offs" that will impact your decision-making about what processor to buy. In general, it seems that the faster processors for the 800Mhz FSB also run at higher temperatures. That's one reason why the 2.4C has a good following.

Here's an example. I have one machine with a 3.06"B" processor and the processor-core temperature climbs to 95F during video work and sometimes higher than that. At idle, with more than enough fans and including a pusher fan on top of the ThermalTake Spark 7+, the temperature never settles down to much less than 87F.

Meanwhile, on the new configuration with the OCZ's, a 2.4C over-clocked to 2.88 -- external frequency of 240 and memory over-clocked to an effective 480 Mhz, the temperature settles down to 75F to 80F depending on room-temperature ambient. Of course, I'm running a heat-pipe PIPE101 cooler on that one, but a friend's system with a 3.2C also only settles down to around 89F with a Zalman CNP-7000-Cu cooler and a 120mm pusher fan. We O'Ced the 3.2 to 3.47 so he could get full advantage of his PC3500 Mushkins, and the idle temp settled to about 90F.

So -- you have a choice. Run a slower processor with more lebensraum for over-clocking, or run a faster processor and expect more heat whether it is over-clocked or not.

The only way out of that catch-22 is to move up to water-cooled or "Vapo-Chill" solutions. Maybe you feel comfortable with a processor at an idle temp of near 100F, and I suppose -- since your applications will determine "load" temperatures -- you still have plenty of headroom there.

If you plan to run your memory at SPD timings, leave all the memory settings under "CHIPSET" at "auto" -- at least to start. You can either choose the overclock settings of 5%, 10% etc. in the BIOS menu or select "Manual" -- in which case you would just bump up the external frequency settings an integer or more at a time. I try to avoid lockups, so I'm conservative at experimenting.

Selecting "Performance Mode" from "Standard" to "Turbo" will open up the memory speed -- if you have memory with some headroom AND you either have lockups at the chosen DIMM speed (opposed to Auto, you have a choice of 266, 333/320, or 400). That is, with -- as with my choice -- DDR500, you can set the memory speed to DDR400 and Turbo will push it to the limit set by the external clock frequency.

With the OCZ memories at DDR480, I got Sysoft Sandra bandwidth estimates around 5.7 GB/sec.
 

bamacre

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I just recently purchased one of these mobo's myself, actually I think it's the P4P800 SE.

I'm still using a P4 2.4Ghz 533mhz Northwood, and I am still waiting for prices to drop before I snag a new cpu. So I decided to set the performance up 10% in the bios (I am first-time OC'ing here). I am running stock cooling on the cpu, and it has been running just fine at 2.64Ghz, temp is idle at 36/96.

I am using 2x512MB strips of PC2700 DDR, one is Samsung, the other Crucial. I have no idea what model/timings these things have.

I'd like to bump up to 20%, although I think I may be getting over my head with my stock cooling, and I don't want to ruin the cpu, and I sure don't want to ruin my memory.

If I bought a new hsf (I see Zalman is recommended), and got the cpu up to 2.88ghz with low temps, should I be OK on everything, i.e., not running too much of a risk ruining any hardware?

BTW, I am also running a True430 Antec psu, rest of my specs are below in my sig.
 

Thor86

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Yeah, first off, a good power supply should be required for any overclocking, and a 430watt would be a good place to start. P4P800 overclocking is very similar to P4C800 overclocking, as the bios settings are pretty similar. If you want to know what your SPD timings are for your ram, just set the memory settings to SPD and the bios should tell you. You can however relax the timings (higher numbers) for your ram to improve your chances for stable overclocking.

Good luck and have fun.
 

bamacre

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Thanks for the info.

I was looking into a new hsf and also a couple of case fans. I bought my case about 18 months ago, and I can't find any info on it all. It has two places for rear fans, and I don't know what size they are, 80mm or what.

I was also going to try to bump the cpu to 2.88ghz with the stock fan, just to see what the temps would be. Should I give this a try, or could I ruin the cpu and/or memory?
 

Budman

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Originally posted by: futuristicmonkey
I have a P4P800 Deluxe as well and there is no way you can set the divider. The BIOs does that for you, so don't worry about it.

You need to go back &amp; look closer in your bios because there is a setting for it.

It's Ram speed 266 (3:2) 320 (5:4) and 400 (1:1) those are the ratios in a P4P800
 

boshuter

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Budman is right.... you all need to take a closer look at the settings available in your bios. From most of the replies in this thread, I think you all need to do a LOT more reading before you start oc'ing, or at least before you start offering advice ;)

I've been running a P4P800 deluxe for about 6months with a 2.6c, it runs at 260fsb 3.41ghz. I have 2X512 Corsair XMS PC3500 running 5:4 divider at 2-2-2-5 timings. I'm using an SLK900u w/panaflo 92mm U1 fan and my temps are in the low 30's idle and never get above 46-47 load. Start with your ram controlled by spd or 3:2 and see how far you can push the cpu/fsb, once you know the limit of the cpu, start running the memory faster until you find the limits of it.
 

igblack

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ya i got one.... u have to manually do it cuz the present limit will do shit. i got mine up to 3.3 gigz and it worked in 5:4 just fine so u should be able to hit atleast 2.9 or higher