Any owners of HP Z420 here? (Xeon E5-1650, 8GB)

[dima777]

Hello!)
I wonder if there are any owners of HP Z420, Intel® Xeon E5-1650, 8GB here?(http://www.amazon.com/HP-Workstation...eon+E5-1650%2C))) I am seriously considering this workstation for a large number crunching project that would involved recalculating large excel files (300-mbs, and 500mbs in size) thousands of times per each day (5/7/365)...this will be a long term project so I need a super fast and a super reliable system...I understand Xeon E5-1650 is the twin brother of i7 3930k with the addition of ECC memory support and a few more sever options...I was wondering if there are people here who have this machine and hwo submit it daily to very hard loads???well - EXTREMELY HARD LOADS....Like running 100% for 10 hours non-stop....I wonder how it handles that?)) I will be very happy to hear about your experience!)

 

[T_Yamamoto]

Better to build your own. Since you can add your own after market heatsink

 

[tynopik]

i would be stunned if it had any problem whatsoever running 10 hours at 100% or 10 days or even 10 weeks

it's just not an issue to worry about, it will work fine, and if it doesn't HP will fix it

that is what you're paying for after all vs building it yourself

 

[gmaster456]

i would be stunned if it had any problem whatsoever running 10 hours at 100% or 10 days or even 10 weeks

it's just not an issue to worry about, it will work fine, and if it doesn't HP will fix it

that is what you're paying for after all vs building it yourself

I agree with this user^^. For what you want. It will be fine. And for such tasks as you're describing. I would avoid building your own.

 

[blckgrffn]

Sure, that looks pretty beastly.

I have quite a few computers that run 100% 24/7 with hard computational loads without breaking a sweat that aren't nearly as nice - I would expect this to be pretty awesome

I expect when it isn't doing your work it will be crunching for the TeAm! Come visit the distributed computing forums sometime....

 

[antisocialmunky]

I have one of these at work.

 

[dima777]

i would be stunned if it had any problem whatsoever running 10 hours at 100% or 10 days or even 10 weeks

it's just not an issue to worry about, it will work fine, and if it doesn't HP will fix it

that is what you're paying for after all vs building it yourself

yes....I agree that going with the pre-built workstation might be the best way to go - especially if I am going to get it in split payments vs buying all teh parts of the self-build at once.....

 

[dima777]

I agree with this user^^. For what you want. It will be fine. And for such tasks as you're describing. I would avoid building your own.

yes thank you for your reply...I was originally planning to go with my own custom build but found it hard to find the e5-1650 processors so I decined it mitgh be better to buy the hp workstation.....the economy might be not that masive if I went my own troute and assembled an e5-1650 based system on my own....right?

 

[dima777]

I have one of these at work.

cool))) do those have the e5 -1650 cpu?))) I wonder how they perform in high load tasks?)

 

[mv2devnull]

I cannot tell about Z420, but I've seen 24/7 desktop Z400's (with W3520) run unnervingly warm. They have HP's liquid cooling and CPU temperatures report ~45C at idle and reach 90C under load (according to lm_sensors, with RT around 22C). The boxes do have a Nvidia Quadro 4000 (for 3D stereo), which is about 65C at idle (fan forced to 65%; default fan speed hits 85C idle -- Linux).

 

[T_Yamamoto]

yes thank you for your reply...I was originally planning to go with my own custom build but found it hard to find the e5-1650 processors so I decined it mitgh be better to buy the hp workstation.....the economy might be not that masive if I went my own troute and assembled an e5-1650 based system on my own....right?

Its an OEM CPU. There is always a CPU close to it. The economy makes no difference in PCs

 

[blckgrffn]

The question might be whether or not you need that much muscle - if you had a lesser PC that costs less and you ran it a couple more hours per day, that might be as much as $1k in your pocket, plus $ for every hour you're pushing it hard in the form of a lower power bill.

You can easily/cheaply acquire IVB Xeons and 8GB ECC ram (which is a modest amount and can be economically done with non-FB dimms).

If cost is secondary, I'd buy the pre-built and be done with it IMHO. Replicating the HP machine is unlikely to really save you that much money as you will be fairly off the beaten path when it comes to components, etc. I do believe the ASRock LGA 2011 boards support Xeons and ECC ram, however.

 

[dima777]

The question might be whether or not you need that much muscle - if you had a lesser PC that costs less and you ran it a couple more hours per day, that might be as much as $1k in your pocket, plus $ for every hour you're pushing it hard in the form of a lower power bill.

You can easily/cheaply acquire IVB Xeons and 8GB ECC ram (which is a modest amount and can be economically done with non-FB dimms).

If cost is secondary, I'd buy the pre-built and be done with it IMHO. Replicating the HP machine is unlikely to really save you that much money as you will be fairly off the beaten path when it comes to components, etc. I do believe the ASRock LGA 2011 boards support Xeons and ECC ram, however.

frankly I need massive amounts of power...the analysis pipeline is not fully finished yet and it will probably will be much more complex at the final stage - meanign there might be even larger files - clsoe to 1 gbs that must be jungled up and down many thousands of times daily...I have one question abotu this workstation - it has only 8 gb of ram - I would like 16 - does that mean I can just buy a 8 ecc non bugffered memory and stick it in - or I woudl need to buy teh same brand memory as the one that comes iwth the workstation? thanks!

 

[dima777]

it is interesting to note that Lenovo ThinkStation S30 0569 features the same porcessor but is almost 1000$ more expensive at a hefty $2,924.00 (http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-056961U...+S30+0569)...I wonder why such a large price differential?)
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