Any one have a 360 and a 7800gt or gtx in there computer?

[DLBlank]

Any one have both? Whitch is better? I dont know if you can choose settings on the 360, Just would like to know whitch looks better, One of my friends has a 360 Whatever grafix card i get i want to be just as good (if possable) as the 360. Think i read here that the 360 is about the same as a ati X800XT, Whitch isent quite as good as a 7800gt?

Please no flaming...

 

[dugweb]

I have a gt 6800, and it runs really good on my comp at 1152x864

I saw the commercial for COD II on the 360 and it looked like it ran SOO smooth and looked just as good. I get probably a consisten 30+fps... the 360 looked like it was doing 60+fps looking just as good.

 

[Rage187]

My x2 3800 + 7800gt @ 1920x1200 > My 360 @ 720P or 1080i.

But my PC also cost $1000+ more dollars.

 

[DLBlank]

your x2 3800 OCed?

 

[thilanliyan]

I saw COD2 running on 360 at futureshop and it was REALLY smooth (ie. high fps) but I was playing COD2 on my X800GTO2@X850XT and it looked much nicer.

The textures were a lot nicer compared to the 360 and I was only playing at 1024x768 with 4AA and everything else maxed. The 360 was running on some HD LCD panel I believe.

So to answer your question, at least for COD2 the 7800GT will probably be pretty nice.

 

[JRW]

Originally posted by: whatever6750
Any one have both? Whitch is better? I dont know if you can choose settings on the 360, Just would like to know whitch looks better, One of my friends has a 360 Whatever grafix card i get i want to be just as good (if possable) as the 360. Think i read here that the 360 is about the same as a ati X800XT, Whitch isent quite as good as a 7800gt?

Please no flaming...

X2 4800+ / 2gb ram / 7800GTX here , Xbox 360 definately has a lot of power in fact after playing Kameo , PGR3 & Perfect Dark via 1080i its a really tough decision as to which I think is more powerful, Spec wise you'd think PC but Im pretty much blown away by what Ive seen in these games (especially Kameo & PGR3) , it's also worth noting that PC is pretty limited in the types of games it gets (mostly FPS) ,360 will have a wide variety of games and Xbox Live runs excellent. Im going to get Call of Duty 2 soon and ill be doing direct comparisons against PCs version ,but according to most reviews 360's version looks just a good and in some areas looks even better than a high end PC running it. Ive played the demo via 1080i and it was at a solid 60fps without any hitches / pauses or slowdowns whatsoever and looked great. CoD2 runs great on my PC but it doesnt stay at a solid 60fps all the time.

 

[ZimZum]

Infinity Ward developed this sequel on the PC, yet knew that with the Xbox 360's tech specs, their baby would, at least, run like margarine on the new console. But I refuse to believe that anyone expected Call of Duty 2 to run like absolute butter on the 360. In fact, I'll even go out on a limb and say that, side-by-side, I'll take the 360 version over the PC counterpart. Have I gone mad? Perhaps--but for the price of a rig that you'll need to get the latter up to speed, the former actually somewhat justifies the $300-plus tag on the Xbox 360. And with 720p widescreen support, normal and specular mapping, dynamite particle effects, and lighting-fast load times, you might not even miss your mouse.

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The first thing you notice about Call of Duty 2, whether you?re a ?graphics whore? or a gameplay fiend, is just how gorgeous it is. The developers at Infinity Ward claim the game looks better on Xbox 360 than its PC counterpart, and by all accounts, they?re right. The difference is minimal, but it?s definitely there, particularly for gamers whose PCs crawled to a halt with all the normal-mapped, high-resolution action. Snow, sand and stone kicks up into clouds as bullets slam into the ground. Soldiers bound, duck and strafe across the environments with animations ripped straight from reality. Light filters through dust-filled alleys, and clouds of steam billow believably from smoke grenades thrown to conceal your position. Every graphic element in the game succeeds at putting you ?on location.? But that?s just part of what makes Call of Duty 2 for Xbox 360 so immersive.

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Activision and Infinity Ward were one of the first to release a title for the 360, and the benchmark has been set. Ok, yes, this is essentially the same game that was featured in a PC review in late October. And the term ?essentially? is operative here because while the game bears all the marks of its PC brethren in terms of the story and linear nature of the game, graphically it feels like a whole new animal.

As stated, the game itself is more or less a mirror of its PC counterpart. The major differences occur in the graphical presentation and the control scheme. While it may not be the popular thing to say (and consider this is coming from a predominately PC gamer), the graphical quality of the 360 version exceeds the PC title. Crisp, vibrant and sporting remarkable detail across a much larger screen, CoD 2 is a benchmark title. And it should be noted that this game was not played on a high-def set. This game was jaw-dropping.

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Most reviews that have directly compared the two give the 360 the clear edge in visual quality, even the Game's developers state the same thing.

And thats not even the best looking 360 game. PGR3 IMO has the best graphics Ive ever seen in a game PC or console.

 

[Rage187]

Originally posted by: whatever6750
your x2 3800 OCed?

2.5 on air

 

[SPARTAN VI]

Originally posted by: Rage187

Originally posted by: whatever6750
your x2 3800 OCed?

2.5 on air

The Call of Duty 2 you see at 360 kiosks are usually demos. I, too, notice how nasty they look. However, my friend is a manager at my local BestBuy, so he cracked open a copy of CoD2 and threw it in their 360 box. Looked considerably better, AA included and in HD mode (believe it was 720p, though).

Numerous reviews claim the X360's version of CoD2 looks better.. not so sure about that, but it plays a lot smoother, feels like it's ALWAYS at 60FPS.

Even though I already have CoD2 for PC, I'll grab it on X360 just so I can play it with my Xbox brethren.

 

[Todd33]

Xbox 360 definately has a lot of power in fact after playing Kameo , PGR3 & Perfect Dark via 1080i its a really tough decision as to which I think is more powerful

Well since the Xbox is rendering at 720P (1280x720) or lower as some rumors have it, it doesn't need to be all that powerful, that's not alot of pixels. Did you read the review of Q4? Nothing against the Xbox360, but it's like a 2004 mid end computer, in a few years it won't look so hot in comparison, that's the console curse.

I plan on getting one for co-op play with my friend, I'm just hoping for less PC ports and more console games.

 

[crazydingo]

I played COD2 on my brother's X360 this weekend, textures are notably better. Best thing was the frame-rate, very smooth.

The only thing is that you gotta get used to playing an fps using a controller. (keyboard+mouse rules)

 

[JRW]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Xbox 360 definately has a lot of power in fact after playing Kameo , PGR3 & Perfect Dark via 1080i its a really tough decision as to which I think is more powerful

Well since the Xbox is rendering at 720P (1280x720) or lower as some rumors have it, it doesn't need to be all that powerful, that's not alot of pixels. Did you read the review of Q4? Nothing against the Xbox360, but it's like a 2004 mid end computer, in a few years it won't look so hot in comparison, that's the console curse.

I plan on getting one for co-op play with my friend, I'm just hoping for less PC ports and more console games.

Q4 was a vert poor port is all. Play a game that was developed only for 360 such as PGR3 / Kameo to get an idea of what its capable of.

 

[Dethfrumbelo]

In a year, the 360 will be in the PC's rearview, and then it'll have 3 to 4 more years to pull away.

Since I essentially watch zero TV, except for the occasional movie, and have zero interest in racing/fighting/sports games, the choice is clear.

 

[JRW]

Originally posted by: Dethfrumbelo
In a year, the 360 will be in the PC's rearview, and then it'll have 3 to 4 more years to pull away.

Since I essentially watch zero TV, except for the occasional movie, and have zero interest in racing/fighting/sports games, the choice is clear.

Consoles have the advantage of being only one configuration as opposed to the numerous PC setups developers have to worry about .. Over time the games just get better and better on each console as developers learn the hardware , That being said the 360 has a very bright future indeed

 

[SPARTAN VI]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Xbox 360 definately has a lot of power in fact after playing Kameo , PGR3 & Perfect Dark via 1080i its a really tough decision as to which I think is more powerful

Well since the Xbox is rendering at 720P (1280x720) or lower as some rumors have it, it doesn't need to be all that powerful, that's not alot of pixels. Did you read the review of Q4? Nothing against the Xbox360, but it's like a 2004 mid end computer.

I plan on getting one for co-op play with my friend, I'm just hoping for less PC ports and more console games.

2004 midrange is like a 6600GT. I really don't think of the r500 as a midrange card, for this generation, but probably the next.

in a few years it won't look so hot in comparison, that's the console curse.

I agree, then I don't, but mostly agree. The developers managed to take advantage of the first Xbox as it matured. SplinterCell: Chaos Theory and Halo 2 are great examples of this... but still, SC:CT for PC blows the Xbox version away.

 

[DLBlank]

Hmm, Well could the developers done some changes to the game, Resulting the the better textures?

 

[AlphaNex]

It damn well better look nice than the PC version, being that its one of the show case titles for a new console. Its simple economics really. If ever a console is launched without better looking games than current mid-high end PC's then that console will surely fail being that PC's are the standard by which all is judged.

Give it about 8 months.


Another thing I want to point out is that in order for any console to look good, you are going to need a very expensive TV. People always talk about how consoles are cheaper, but never talk about the extra 800$ you have to spend on a high end TV to make the games look bearable, and for someone who watches maybe 3 hours of TV a week that is a waste of money.

 

[5150Joker]

Console fanboys try to make the argument that if you have a PC, these new consoles allow you to hook them up directly to your monitor so you don't have to worry about an HDTV. However, the problem with that is many of us use LCD's with high native resolution and from what I've read, the xbox 360 just displays the picture at a higher resolution but renders it at a lower resolution natively so it's not comparable to a PC (correct me if I'm wrong - I don't follow xbox news too closely). Also, since MS is shortening the console release span from 5 years to 4 years and with games becoming increasingly difficult to produce (money and timewise) I bet we will see a drastic decline in quality of console games simply because publishers will want to push them out ASAP. With the PC, publishers and developers have a bit more breathing room since the PC is a modular medium.

I honestly hope MS/Sony shorten the console cycle to 3 years in an attempt to outdo each other and in the longrun cause the collapse of the console industry like Atari did. That way all these devs move back to the proper gaming medium: the PC.

 

[ss284]

My 7800gt gets about 40 fps avg with drops into the 25s at 1600-1200. Like someone else said, xbox is only rendering at 1280-720. I'll do some tests at that resolution when I get back.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: SPARTAN VI
2004 midrange is like a 6600GT. I really don't think of the r500 as a midrange card, for this generation, but probably the next.

Ya, but that 6600GT was coupled with a 3200+ A64, not some weak a$$ PPC with two cores being ignored. The Xbox360 and the PS3 are very imbalanced machines, powerful GPUs teamed up with cheap multi-core CPUs. Ask any console developers, you want a 3500+ A64 or three core PPC? You will get the same answer everytime, but yoiu cannot afford a $300 CPU in a $300 machine, so they went cheap with IBM (who gave up the IP).

 

[SPARTAN VI]

Originally posted by: ss284
My 7800gt gets about 40 fps avg with drops into the 25s at 1600-1200. Like someone else said, xbox is only rendering at 1280-720. I'll do some tests at that resolution when I get back.

And I know for a fact you're not playing at max settings ("extra" texture detail, 4xAA 16xAF)

As for XBOX360, it plays 720p at 60fps, and 1080i at 30fps, and as far as I know, everything's maxed; except 2xAA?

 

[Steelski]

Q4 and COD2 are not really meant for the Xbox360. it only have 512MB of unified ram. what does that tell you if its even able to play the game decently. without 256MB of dedicated video ram and 2gig system ram.

 

[SPARTAN VI]

Originally posted by: Steelski
Q4 and COD2 are not really meant for the Xbox360. it only have 512MB of unified ram. what does that tell you if its even able to play the game decently.

That it's efficient?

without 256MB of dedicated video ram and 2gig system ram.

And that it doesn't have a system-hog OS running in the background.

 

[SPARTAN VI]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: SPARTAN VI
2004 midrange is like a 6600GT. I really don't think of the r500 as a midrange card, for this generation, but probably the next.

Ya, but that 6600GT was coupled with a 3200+ A64, not some weak a$$ PPC with two cores being ignored. The Xbox360 and the PS3 are very imbalanced machines, powerful GPUs teamed up with cheap multi-core CPUs. Ask any console developers, you want a 3500+ A64 or three core PPC? You will get the same answer everytime, but yoiu cannot afford a $300 CPU in a $300 machine, so they went cheap with IBM (who gave up the IP).

You're not going to see a significant bottlneck coming out of the PPC as games nowadays stress the GPU more than anything else. Regardless, weakass PPC or not (and I agree, it's a crappity CPU) the games look and play great. Definitely not midrange quality.

 

[Crescent13]

I played the COD2 Demo.

It ran great on my 6600GT, and 3200+ winchester (nonoverclocked) at 1280x1024 with 16x AF. I also played the demo on the xbox 360. It looks much better on my comp.