Any Hi-Point fans here?

[Raduque]

Looking at buying a Hi-Point .45ACP as my first handgun. I've heard it's reliable and the heavy weight makes the recoil of the .45 ACP round felt less. Plus, the orange 3-dot sights are easy for me to see.

Anybody here own one of these or have any opinions on it?

Anti-gun people, instead of replying, click the back button and find some other thread to post in.

 

[boomhower]

You heard wrong. Hi-Point is junk, stay far away. They are unreliable and not worth what little they cost. You may get a few hundred rounds out of it but once you get to 500 or so it will start jamming constantly, but even from new they are not trustworthy. If you want a gun spend some money and get a quality weapon you can trust. Also you may want to start out with something a little lower than a .45

 

[mozirry]

I about bought one before I was able to get a SW40VE for about $229

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...257244&highlight_key=y


what's so bad about the hi-point line? It's cheap and it shoots straight! Sounds like a winner to me.

Who cares if it doesn't look like a designer-line peice

 

[Unheard]

While they do have a lifetime warranty, spend the extra cash and get something nice. If you are looking for something affordable, you could always look at the /cringe Sigma's by S&W. They are essentially a Glock clone, but not anywhere as good. The trigger pull on them is AWFUL (I know, I owned one for a little while). While both of those will put a chunk of metal down range, neither of them are high quality hand guns. Kinda like a KIA. It will get you from home to work, but it isn't a Benz.

If you can spend some extra cash, look @ a Glock or a S&W M&P. I have an M&P Sub Compact 9mm as my carry weapon. Also, the .45 power is a myth. Ballistics show a 9mm is going to have similar "stopping power". I recommend you check out http://www.theboxotruth.com/. They show the ballistic properties of all types of rounds. In the end, .45 is just going to cost you more on ammo. If you're looking to simply plink, get a 9mm.

 

[bucwylde23]

Every time I've been around someone shooting a Hi-Point anything, they had problems with them jamming. I'd stay far away..

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: Unheard
While they do have a lifetime warranty, spend the extra cash and get something nice. If you are looking for something affordable, you could always look at the /cringe Sigma's by S&W. They are essentially a Glock clone, but not anywhere as good. The trigger pull on them is AWFUL (I know, I owned one for a little while). While both of those will put a chunk of metal down range, neither of them are high quality hand guns. Kinda like a KIA. It will get you from home to work, but it isn't a Benz.

If you can spend some extra cash, look @ a Glock or a S&W M&P. I have an M&P Sub Compact 9mm as my carry weapon. Also, the .45 power is a myth. Ballistics show a 9mm is going to have similar "stopping power". I recommend you check out http://www.theboxotruth.com/. They show the ballistic properties of all types of rounds. In the end, .45 is just going to cost you more on ammo. If you're looking to simply plink, get a 9mm.

Which is why almost no law enforcement agencies carry 9mm? I'm quite comfortable with my .45's- I'm not opposed to 9mm, but given a choice I'd go for the bigger bullet. That's just me.

Box-o-truth also has a bit on Glocks: http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu84.htm

 

[Cable God]

They make good boat anchors!

 

[marvdmartian]

Originally posted by: chrisg22
Every time I've been around someone shooting a Hi-Point anything, they had problems with them jamming. I'd stay far away..

Don't know if this was their problem or not, but when I talked to a gun shop owner about the Hi Point 9mm, he suggested that you shoot ~100 rounds through it with the magazine holding one less round than it's capacity, THEN use the full capacity after that. He said that people that did that ended up with no problems with jamming (seems it's a magazine problem).

That being said, I wouldn't use a ~$150 pistol as my main weapon, but they're small enough for a hide-away backup weapon.

 

[boomhower]

You should be able to put a full mag into a new gun, that right there should tell you there are problems. If you just want something cheap to take to the range and mess around with sure why not as long as you don't mind the aggravation of it jamming. For home protection or to carry as self defense, no way in Hell.

 

[mozirry]

get the hi-point, what's worst case scenario? You are out 150 bucks

with that said, make sure .45ACP is your flavor that you want. If you shoot a lot then you know what you are getting into, but some people can't handle the kick on a .45.... I myself have issues w/ accuracy and handling the recoil on a m1911 .45ACP so I downgraded to a .40S&W which is still a good manstopper but at the same time, I can handle it accurately.

 

[l0cke]

Problem with the hi-point is that it doesn't make the "ka-beloved patriot" noise when you rack the slide.

 

[K1052]

They are decent if all you're using it for is plinking at the range.

 

[Demo24]

If you want one to plink with then thats fine. I recommend getting a used one for real cheap, doesn't matter if its in bad condition as all you have to do is ship it back to Hi point. They will make any necessary repairs and often send you a couple magazines back with it to make up for the shipping.

If your going for personal defense I'd get something far more reputable, like a glock, H&K, or a good quality 1911 model.

 

[Rubycon]

Their raid cards stink!

 

[tfinch2]

I had a .45 ACP Hi-Point for awhile. I shot about 100 rounds and I didn't have any issues except racking the slide required super human strength and it was not very accurate. It was big, ugly, heavy, and I ended up selling it for what I bought it for and getting a Ruger P95.

 

[Raduque]

I've handled the gun at a local store and the action seemed smooth and easy to me. I can handle the kick of a normal .45, but the Hi-Point is heavier so should dampen it a bit more.

I'd be open to 9mms, but I'm looking at really cheap starter guns. I'd prefer the $150-200 range, and I don't like Glocks. They're (IMO) ugly, boring, cheap-looking, generic and everybody has one. The Hi-Point is different (and yes, ugly).

The store also has a nice selection of Glocks, SIGs, SAs and various 1911s. I also saw an IMI Desert Eagle chambered for .44 Mag. I'd get that, but it's $1200.

 

[K1052]

Hunt around for a used Ruger P89, they can be had pretty reasonably if you look. Much better starter gun than the Hi Point.

Hogue grips make the P89 handle really well also.

 

[edro]

the one I shot seemed ok to me. Most people who don't like them just assume they are junk because of the price. Every review I have seen online says they are fine.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Raduque
I've handled the gun at a local store and the action seemed smooth and easy to me. I can handle the kick of a normal .45, but the Hi-Point is heavier so should dampen it a bit more.

I'd be open to 9mms, but I'm looking at really cheap starter guns. I'd prefer the $150-200 range, and I don't like Glocks. They're (IMO) ugly, boring, cheap-looking, generic and everybody has one. The Hi-Point is different (and yes, ugly).

The store also has a nice selection of Glocks, SIGs, SAs and various 1911s. I also saw an IMI Desert Eagle chambered for .44 Mag. I'd get that, but it's $1200.

150-200 is really low. you aren't getting anything decent for that price. even something used in that price range is not going to be great.

 

[OnePingOnly]

Don't go cheap on a defensive pistol. If you want something that you can trust with your life then you should pony up and get a Colt, S&W, Glock, Sig Sauer, HK, Walther, etc. The idea of a "starter gun" baffles me - you'll want to be able to shoot well with a gun you'll be carrying/using regularly. Hi-Point is complete trash.

 

[sash1]

High Point, NC? it's allright i guess

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: JRussellDMD
Don't go cheap on a defensive pistol. If you want something that you can trust with your life then you should pony up and get a Colt, S&W, Glock, Sig Sauer, HK, Walther, etc. The idea of a "starter gun" baffles me - you'll want to be able to shoot well with a gun you'll be carrying/using regularly. Hi-Point is complete trash.

When I buy a personal or home defense weapon, it'll definitely be a nicer gun than the Hi-Point. I just don't see why I need a $500-$1000 gun to get back into shooting. I haven't shot in about 9 years and want something cheap to get back into it. Bonus if my plinker uses the same ammo as my eventual carry/defense weapon(1911).

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Raduque

When I buy a personal or home defense weapon, it'll definitely be a nicer gun than the Hi-Point. I just don't see why I need a $500-$1000 gun to get back into shooting. I haven't shot in about 9 years and want something cheap to get back into it. Bonus if my plinker uses the same ammo as my eventual carry/defense weapon(1911).

Your logic makes no sense to me. Why not just, you know, buy your "eventual carry/defense weapon"? Might as well get accustomed to it (and its operating controls and grip angle) now. You get what you pay for, and what you get with a Hi-Point is a cheap POS.

If what you want is a "plinker," get a Ruger .22 (which has the same grip and controls as a 1911). A .45 is a very expensive weapon to use solely for range use, and it's a poor caliber to use to "get back into" shooting because the relatively high recoil will likely cause you to develop bad habits like flinching.