any experince w/ this 500w power supply - onsale for $17+shipping

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Tom

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What about this one ?

550w power supply at SVC


Just looking for opinions ! :) I like the blue lights and the 120mm fan. And SATA connectors.

Don't know about the brand or specs because I ain't no lectrician.
 

Cerb

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That looks to me like another Fortron, but actually not a bad deal, assumin those specs are real. Personally, I'd risk it for that one.
So you don't get the specs? OK, here goes, real simple (my father was an elctrician for many years, so I can't say tha has nothing to do wit it :)):
Your components use three voltags, +12v, +5v and +3.3v. The -12v and -5v lines are being phased out, as nothing has used the in the last decade or so. Most PSUs piggy-back the voltages, so you go from the 12 to 5 to 3.3.
Due to this, when the 5v line pulls too much the 3.3v line suffers, and vice versa.
A good 300w PSU will ave at least 23A on the 3.3, 20A on the 5v line. Good ones more. The 12v is what increase the most in higher-wattage supplies, as drives tend to hog that pretty good.
On a side note, Antec's TruePower supplies don't do this mess, and have dedicated rails, so as long as the toal pull of all three don't add up to more than its rating, it is fine.

The big thing here is that you will often find cheap suplies rated very high, but with actual, or near-actual specs of a 300w PSU, but it can pull 500w for 1 second, so is rated as such. Good brands, like Fortron, Sparkle, Enhance, etc. rate their PSUs somewhat conservatively. Enermax PSUs and Antec's TruePower tend to be rated at their nominal outputs. Crappy brands rate them much higher.

Think of it lik a horsepower vs. foot-pounds thing. You can get a 200 horsepower engine no sweat, but the torque will tell more of the real story.
 

smahoney

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If you want to spend a grand or more on parts and run it on a $17 dollar PSU - then you get what you pay for. If you are spending 4~5 hundred it might make more sense. Some folks really do have a limited budget and some only care if it lasts for 6 months - I am not one of those people ;)
 

NgtFlyer

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I wouldn't trust that thing. Get yourself a quality PSU such as a Fortron/Sparkle, Antec, Enermax or HEC..

I've got two machines here that belong to friends. Both have bad PSUs. One is a "Media Power" 400W that blew out in a P3 933 machine, the other is a Deer 300W that appears to have exploded a cap and taken most of the system along with it. That machine is a Tbird 1.2.
 

kamper

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Originally posted by: conehead433
Wonder what Gateway, Dell, HP et. al. put in their boxes. Probably the cheapo PS units such as this. Probably have a failure rate of less than a few %. I currently have a 400W Linkworld PS running an XP1700, 4 hard drives, 4 fans, 3 Rom/RW drives and have never had a minutes trouble. No random reboots, etc. I am sure that some here will claim, 'Just wait till it blows up and ruins everything'. Right. I'm sure I'm an idiot and so are Dell, Gateway, HP and any fool who would use a cheap PS. You people paying the big bucks are suckers.

Why do you get to assume that the big manufacturers cheap out on power supplies? I'm sure that, as stability would be one of their main concerns, they make sure that they use very reliable power supplies. It's great that you've gotten away with a cheaper part but some people have really experienced problems with that sort of thing. Don't call them suckers just because you assume big manufacturers use cheap parts.
 

smahoney

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Dell, HP and IBM do not use cheapo PSU's. They do take advantage of the fact that they are buying thousands at a time to drive the price down. High failure rates are an easy to get thrown off their approved vendor lists. They generally use some of the best power supply manufacturers around.
 

Zap

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How about this one...

PowMax 400W Gold Power supply, Model "LP6100DA3"
The 'egg has it for $25 with free shipping. Powmax isn't the best brand, but also not the worst (at least their 6100 series). This unit has an aluminum exterior in gold color. They sell other colors, but at around $10 more. Hmmm, think I'll post this on hot deals.