Any consumer AVCHD camcorder that records true 1080p?

[JAG87]

They all advertise 1920x1080, which means absolutely nothing to me... some cautiously mention "1080p", but AFAIK they all turn out to process 1080 60i on the file that's stored.

Is there any consumer camcorder that captures and stores 1080 24p/30p in the file, or are we still stuck de-interlacing a 60i signal to get a progressive picture?

Opinions and recommendations welcome.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: JAG87
They all advertise 1920x1080, which means absolutely nothing to me... some cautiously mention "1080p", but AFAIK they all turn out to process 1080 60i on the file that's stored.

Is there any consumer camcorder that captures and stores 1080 24p/30p in the file, or are we still stuck de-interlacing a 60i signal to get a progressive picture?

Opinions and recommendations welcome.

I use a Canon HV20 and everything is wrapped in a 60i container. That goes for the HV30, HF100, HF10, and HF11 as well. Your options are 60i, 30p, and 24p, with all of them being saved as 60i digital video. You have to convert the files to a usable editing format anyway, so it's not any harder to check the "reverse telecine" button for 24p or "de-interlace" button for 30p. The key is simply setting up a workflow that works for you. For me, that means doing the following on my Mac:

1. Import footage in Final Cut Pro
2. Convert to ProRes using Compressor with select options (de-interlace, reverse telecine, whatever)
3. Import clips back into Final Cut Pro for editing

I have a droplet setup with my workflow settings in Compressor so that all I have to do is drag-and-drop the setting file onto the clip(s) and let it go to town 🙂

 

[JAG87]

As I thought, thanks for the reply.

 

[FP]

May I ask why the interlacing is a problem?

 

[JAG87]

Originally posted by: FP
May I ask why the interlacing is a problem?

Actually I just downloaded some 60i samples from a Panasonic SD9 and they look amazing when I play it in PowerDVD. Seems PureVideo is de-interlacing, and it looks far smoother than anything else. Fraps says the video is running at 60 fps, but it's clearly progressive, am I getting a 60p image? If so I may just do all my NLE work at 60i and render in 60i...

I also tried to import the 60i file in Vegas (the only NLE I know how to use) and pulldown to 24p, in case I decide I want a more cinematic look (trying to learn all my options).

I used W:1920, H:1080, Field Order: None(progressive scan), PixelAR: 1.0 (Square), Frame Rate: 23.976, Deinterlace Method: None.

I think I did it right as I got a progressive image without applying any de-interlacing (hence the pulldown is working?), but I'm still full of FUD because I never worked with interlaced streams... Does anybody use Vegas and can you tell me how you setup your project for a proper 60i > 24p pulldown?

Thanks!

 

[monkey333]

I bought the Canon hf100 and can't import the video clips into QT pro, they are some weird format that only the crappy software that came with the camera seems to read.

Suggestions?

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: monkey333
I bought the Canon hf100 and can't import the video clips into QT pro, they are some weird format that only the crappy software that came with the camera seems to read.

Suggestions?

VoltaicHD:

http://www.shedworx.com/

$35 for PC or Mac. Converts to whatever format you like. The major plus for me is that it can transcode files pulled from the memory card, without having to have the card present like a lot of other apps.