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Any cases out there come with Quality PSU's?

Muscles

Muscles

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My sister asked me to build her a new system and I need to keep things relatively cheap. Here are the specs I'm most likely going to be using for the build:

A64 3200+
Chaintech VNF4 Ultra
2x512MB OCZ Premier
Geforce 6600 GT
Seagate 250GB 7200.8 SATA
NEC 16X DVDR 3520A
Antec SLK1650B w\350W PS (Will the PSU with this case be enough for this system?)

Perhaps it's better to just buy a $60 dollar quality PSU and then just buy a POS real low end case. Anyone have suggestions? I'm not even sure if that PSU the antec case comes with includes a 24 pin connector.
 
Saleen385 had a better idea. A TruePower 380 is obsolete already. Why saddle the rig with a PSU that won't be able to handle upgrades for the future?

The NF4 with a decent amount of RAM requires a larger PSU than 380, as does the graphics card alone.
 
Originally posted by: maluckey
Saleen385 had a better idea. A TruePower 380 is obsolete already. Why saddle the rig with a PSU that won't be able to handle upgrades for the future?

The NF4 with a decent amount of RAM requires a larger PSU than 380, as does the graphics card alone.
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unless your running SLI or 5+ hard drives there is very few reasons you'd need more than 380 watts.
 
Originally posted by: maluckey
The NF4 with a decent amount of RAM requires a larger PSU than 380, as does the graphics card alone.
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You have no idea what you're talking about. The GF6800 Ultra draws 4.22 amps max on 12V1. An FX-53 draws 7.42 amps max on 12V2. The hottest CPU you can get, the P4 3.8 GHz draws less than 10A. The most power-hungry drives draw 2.5A on 12V1 spinning up, and draw less than 1A during operation. I don't see why you're bringing RAM into it, as a gig of DDR draws less than 2A off the 5V rail.

The 380W Sonata gives you 28A on 3.3V, 35A on 5V and 18A on 12V. That's enough to run any AMD CPU, a GF6800 Ultra, and two 15,000 RPM drives. It'll probably be good enough for a few years.

Originally posted by: shoRunner
unless your running SLI or 5+ hard drives there is very few reasons you'd need more than 380 watts.
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Yeah, what he said. 🙂
 
For about 80 dollars you can get a native 24-pin PSU with 36 amps +12v, and better performance all-around. The True380 isn't in the cards for future-proofing, or high performance.

BTW A 6800 Gt pulls around 64 watts at full power continuous when mildly OC'ed (real world testing around the web)...........That's about 5.3 amps continous. The Antec is rated at 24 Amps PEAK. The PEAK is 24 amps at only 40C. temperature. Taking into consideration that the real world continous is likely 16-18 amps, about a third of all the continuous +12v of this PSU would be needed to power the listed Graphics card alone while gaming. The CPU and case fans would have to fight over the rest, which isn't much. I brought RAM into the picture because even though it draws off of the 3.3 volt line which is pretty good on this PSU, the added stress to the PSU generates heat, which decreases overall performance of the PSU.

Lets talk next generation video cards......

The 7800GTX card is listed (by nVidia) to need 34 amps continuous for SLI. For single mode I woud Imagine their reccomendation for a 400 watt PSU would be about right. My guess is the next generation will kill the True380. Why not spend a few bucks now to avoid having to upgrade later??

There are numerous threads on this at AT and XtremeSytem forums that go over this...you should read them before going off half-cocked. There are far better PSUs for far less money than the True380. Few on either forum would support your particular views. They all must not know anything either?

 
If you move down to a 3000+ and a less-expensive hard drive, that would leave some more wiggle room for the case/PSU. Maybe this will help: Antec SLK3000-B, $46 shipped (no PSU) That case comes with a 120mm exhaust fan and of course it will look nice with black drives.

Speaking of drives, maybe check out the BenQ burner that comes with OEM Nero 6, she's going to be bummed if she has no burner software (my NEC didn't come with any, but I have retail Nero 6). I have the BenQ in my home system and it is quieter than the NEC.

As for power supplies, heck, what does it cost you to "super-size" it? Not radically much in absolute terms. Another $20-$30 for the "towing package," sign me up. 😀 I've spent more than that on all sorts of silly stuff in my life.
 
I know they are not considered to be excellent PSU' but I recently built an athlon 64 rig overclocked with a 6600gt and I picked up a rosewill case from newegg with a 400 watt psu. It claims 17A on the 12v rail and it runs everything fine. I do howerver only have 1 dvd drive and 1 HD connected
 
Antec units are OK, don't get me wrong, but for the price you can still do far far better.

FSP roundup

There isn't a stronger or cleaner PSU in the procerange of the FSP-460. It's ratings are at 50 C. continuous, not peak.
 
Originally posted by: maluckey
Antec units are OK, don't get me wrong, but for the price you can still do far far better.

FSP roundup

There isn't a stronger or cleaner PSU in the procerange of the FSP-460. It's ratings are at 50 C. continuous, not peak.
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OTOH, do the FSP's come with a 3-year warranty? Because that's part of the price of Antec units too, although it may be a non-issue for some folks. I often raise the same flag when people begin comparing Dell cheapie boxes to quality self-built, since Dell's warranty options start at ZERO for their Dimension N-series models (as an extreme example).

edit: not meaning any disrespect to the FSP units by that, just that it's an aspect of what things cost.

 
so totally sonata. i'm sure a girl will appreciate quiet even more. no need for garish geek features. sonata has good design, rubber fan mounts, 120mm exhaust, harddrive rubber mounting, and all the nice drive rails. and of course the true power 380watt which would cost a decent amount alone. and if u want lights, the front two blue ones are damn bright.
 
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