Any campers/Hurricane people? Looking for 16.4oz Propane Cylinders.

[alkemyst]

Got a portable Coleman Stove/Grill for emergency cooking in a blackout. $69.99 at Sports Authority/Fog Dog/Etc....about $10-20 cheaper than everywhere else.

Uses 16.4oz Coleman (or compatible) cylinders.

I am open for mods for larger (but portable) ones. There is a factory valve that can allow it to take full sized BBQ style tanks, but that's way to big and overkill.

Thanks
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[Eli]

You can get adapters so you can plug into a big BBQ size tank.

The small cylinders are an outrageous ripoff when you do the math..

~2$ for 16.4oz = 40$/gallon :shocked:

 

[DrPizza]

<-- better at math?
Isn't a gallon around 8 pounds?

I just had my propane tank filled today (cooking, clothes dryer; we don't have natural gas out here)
One of those huge tanks that you're not going to lift when it's full... it was between 2 and 3 dollars for a gallon.

 

[DrPizza]

Found the receipt... 2.3590 per gallon

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
<-- better at math?
Isn't a gallon around 8 pounds?

I just had my propane tank filled today (cooking, clothes dryer; we don't have natural gas out here)
One of those huge tanks that you're not going to lift when it's full... it was between 2 and 3 dollars for a gallon.

A gallon is 128oz.

It will depend on the density of the liquid in question how much a gallon weighs...

 

[cjgallen]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: DrPizza
<-- better at math?
Isn't a gallon around 8 pounds?

I just had my propane tank filled today (cooking, clothes dryer; we don't have natural gas out here)
One of those huge tanks that you're not going to lift when it's full... it was between 2 and 3 dollars for a gallon.

A gallon is 128oz.

It will depend on the density of the liquid in question how much a gallon weighs...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=128oz+in+pounds&btnG=Google+Search

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Eli
You can get adapters so you can plug into a big BBQ size tank.

The small cylinders are an outrageous ripoff when you do the math..

~2$ for 16.4oz = 40$/gallon :shocked:

I posted about that in the original thread. I have no room for a 40 gallon tank in my apartment if I am only speculating on using it in the future....

 

[funkymatt]

i think target (may be seasonal) or lowes has them pretty cheap. ~$2 per canister

 

[cardiac]

A gallon of propane weighs 4.11 pounds.....

Bob

 

[myusername]

how's this look? http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=45989

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: DrPizza
<-- better at math?
Isn't a gallon around 8 pounds?

I just had my propane tank filled today (cooking, clothes dryer; we don't have natural gas out here)
One of those huge tanks that you're not going to lift when it's full... it was between 2 and 3 dollars for a gallon.

A gallon is 128oz.

It will depend on the density of the liquid in question how much a gallon weighs...

Now, we can talk about density... like, how dense are you if you don't realize that 8 pounds is 128 oz.?? 8*16 = 128 Sheeeesh. I was just questioning where you got the $40 figure from... After all, you started with around 2 dollars for 16.4 ounces. You have to multiply by less than 8, not by 20. Even if by ~2$ you meant 2.99, that's still less than 24 dollars.

 

[WW]

I have that same stove/grill....just took it camping...it rocks.

anyways, I cooked on it, maybe two meals a day (burgers, chicken, grilled cheese on the burner side, etc) for 4 days....and still didn't use the whole cylinder.

It's supposed to run 1.1 hours on a little cylinder, if you have both sides on full blast. But you don't cook at full blast usually....that thing is hot.

I'd say you'll be good with a six pack of the cylinders for quite a while.

get a camp toaster....then you'll have a backup toaster too

toaster

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: WW
I have that same stove/grill....just took it camping...it rocks.

anyways, I cooked on it, maybe two meals a day (burgers, chicken, grilled cheese on the burner side, etc) for 4 days....and still didn't use the whole cylinder.

It's supposed to run 1.1 hours on a little cylinder, if you have both sides on full blast. But you don't cook at full blast usually....that thing is hot.

I'd say you'll be good with a six pack of the cylinders for quite a while.

get a camp toaster....then you'll have a backup toaster too

toaster

I remember those from Boy Scouts...thought it was something someone just made.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: DrPizza
<-- better at math?
Isn't a gallon around 8 pounds?

I just had my propane tank filled today (cooking, clothes dryer; we don't have natural gas out here)
One of those huge tanks that you're not going to lift when it's full... it was between 2 and 3 dollars for a gallon.

A gallon is 128oz.

It will depend on the density of the liquid in question how much a gallon weighs...

Now, we can talk about density... like, how dense are you if you don't realize that 8 pounds is 128 oz.?? 8*16 = 128 Sheeeesh. I was just questioning where you got the $40 figure from... After all, you started with around 2 dollars for 16.4 ounces. You have to multiply by less than 8, not by 20. Even if by ~2$ you meant 2.99, that's still less than 24 dollars.

i'm confused..

there is a difference between solid and fluid oz, no?

8lbs of sugar would be 128oz

8lbs of water would be ~86oz

8lbs of gasoline would be ~171oz....

Right?

Er, but yeah. I don't even know where I got the 40$ figure from.

but 15$/gallon isnt much better

 

[Eli]

Oh, and I meant.. a smaller BBQ sized tank.. not the standard 5 gallons..

There are 1 gallon ones that would be semi portable.... and refillable from a station.

 

[Rubycon]

What's heavier a pound of feathers or a pound of estwing framing hammers?

Hmmmm weights and measures. A gallon is 231 cubic inches. This is the displacement (roughly) of the buick v6. Of course liquids are of differing specific gravities so the same volume of sulfuric acid is going to be much heavier than (the same - hopefully teflon lined) vessel containing acetone. Do not mix these two btw.

Further complicating matters, compressed liquid vessels must never be filled beyond 85% of their physical internal capacity to allow for expansion. Bursting will occur if this rule is not followed.

Anyways, getting back to the topic at hand...

The 16.4's are the shorter fatter bottles used for camping lanterns, stoves, and small grilles. Most will accept the skinny ones commonly seen used on propane torches. The coleman lanterns have a small inner circle in the stand for this purpose. These are throwaway bottles and were never designed to be refilled. They bang real nice with a few ounces of green label pyrodex touched off by an electric match and again you should not do this.

 

[alkemyst]

There is a difference between liquid measure and weight/mass

in weight / mass calculations, volume * density = the weight in oz.

in measure, volume = the quantity in oz.