Good information, thank you.
Good information, thank you.
Been living in California since 1974…more power to him. California is a great example of what happens when good intentions get steam-rollered by extreme ideology.
-KeithP
So you can shit on CA for a lot of things. But actually FIXING air quality is not one of them. They did it amazingly well and still struggle to maintain it in a growing population.
So fuck Trump and his attempt to dismantle CA's air quality efforts.
Please educate us on how the production of batteries would have an impact on whether electricity is clean or not?Does that include production of the batteries?
Read the thread before going off on a tangent please. The question was regarding the overall pollution created by electric vehicles, and it was answered. Your ire is misplaced and unnecessary.Please educate us on how the production of batteries would have an impact on whether electricity is clean or not?
Or is that just another response akin to well what about 2nd hand smoke when gun control is mentioned...
Not really! Even with the addidtional manufacturing of batteries included. Electrical vehicles including the manufacturing of batteries still is not even close to mbeing on par with the pollution caused by oil guzzing and gas burning vehuilces!Read the thread before going off on a tangent please. The question was regarding the overall pollution created by electric vehicles, and it was answered. Your ire is misplaced and unnecessary.
You're arguing against a point that was never made. Again, just read the thread and you'll have a better grasp of what the discussion was about. I'd also recommend turning on your browsers spell checker.Not really! Even with the addidtional manufacturing of batteries included. Electrical vehicles including the manufacturing of batteries still is not even close to mbeing on par with the pollution caused by oil guzzing and gas burning vehuilces!
So perhaps I was right! There is no comparison, unless comparisons are being used to trey to discredit the move towards electric vehicles!
You assumed that I did not read the thread or the articles!Does that include production of the batteries?
Remember smog alerts?And yet, having grown up in Los Angeles (Valley) in the 1970s and 80s, I can attest to their clean air standards working AMAZINGLY well.
As a child we would regularly get smog lung (anything other than a very shallow breath resulted in a sharp stabbing pain in your chest), and have to sit quietly and take shallow breaths until the stabbing pain in our chests stopped.
Fast forward 30 years. The air is so clean, I can do a century on my road bike ANY day of the year in the Valley or LA bay area and NEVER get smog lung.
And there are over 5 million more people in the area now.
So you can shit on CA for a lot of things. But actually FIXING air quality is not one of them. They did it amazingly well and still struggle to maintain it in a growing population.
So fuck Trump and his attempt to dismantle CA's air quality efforts.
I would think that hydroelectric would be about as clean as energy gets, even allowing for the fuel used in building it.Manufacturing of batteries used in cars can release toxic materials if the factory isn't properly built but once the battery( batteries) is/are in the EV it is not an issue (afaik) unless you end up in a fiery car crash with your EV.
Also the claim that EV's just shift the carbon emissions to the power plant is popular (among conservatives especially it seems) but debatable depending on where what power plant supplies the electricity to the charging station. Obviously a energy generated at a hydroelectric source in a dam is better than a coal fire plant.
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Please educate us on how the production of batteries would have an impact on whether electricity is clean or not?
Or is that just another response akin to well what about 2nd hand smoke when gun control is mentioned...
Also the claim that EV's just shift the carbon emissions to the power plant is popular (among conservatives especially it seems) but debatable depending on where what power plant supplies the electricity to the charging station. Obviously a energy generated at a hydroelectric source in a dam is better than a coal fire plant.
Manufacturing of batteries used in cars can release toxic materials if the factory isn't properly built but once the battery( batteries) is/are in the EV it is not an issue (afaik) unless you end up in a fiery car crash with your EV.
Also the claim that EV's just shift the carbon emissions to the power plant is popular (among conservatives especially it seems) but debatable depending on where what power plant supplies the electricity to the charging station. Obviously a energy generated at a hydroelectric source in a dam is better than a coal fire plant.
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The unavoidable question, is how to dispose of the huge volume of spent batterys after saturation.
That's so unrealistic....Mercedes are all turbo'd these days, not supercharged...I am looking forward to some of those rich Central California "liberals" driving their supercharged V8 Mercedes SUV's to the oil drilling protests.
Remember smog alerts?
There is no source of power in the US, even a coal fired plant, where an EV emits more carbon per mile than a comparable sedan.
