any advice on buying a monitor?

holycow

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hi,

i'm planning to buy a 17" or 19" monitor and planned to spend around $100 - $200.. i was wondering what brand should i go after and what brand should i avoid? i've been checking out the monitor price and found aoc 19" 9glr monitor is very affordable in compare to the other 19" monitors.. are aoc monitors any good? if i were to get a 17" monitor which brand is good?
 

hmsrolst

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I second Shooters--955df should be obtainable for about $200. If you want 17 inch or just to spend less, 753df is very good also. These monitors are excellent as long as you don't need high resolution, but I don't think you can get that in your price range anyway.
 

jm0ris0n

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The 753df also has a $40 off any vendor mail-in-rebate to make the deal even sweeter. I have the 700nf and am happy with my picture. The 753df is basicly the same monitor without the ultra-high refresh rates.

Also, if you order the monitor online DO NOT ship ups ground. Find a vendor with a cheap 3day fed-ex or 2-day fedex/ups. I recently ordered a new monitor from a shop in california and the display shipped tuesday. I recieved the monitor the following monday (I live in Houston, TX). I do not know what UPS did to it, but the box was scuffed majorly and featured a dent or two. The monitor inside appeared to be in good condition until I turned it on. The bottom right corner had major convergence problems (ie the rgb rays were not aligning even after adjusting every setting humanly possible) and it looked like the bottom right corner of my display was a rainbow! Tech support said UPS must have left the monitor next to a very powerful magnet to mess up the convergence that much.

Just be cautious and try to order from a state close to you to minimize travel time (for the monitor).

Also, if your future involves sharing a dorm room with someone get the 17".


 

Jhhnn

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Hard to argue with the flat screen Samsungs. We have two 753df's at our house, very good monitors, particularly at the price. 19" monitors are really big, go with 17" if space or portability is an issue.....
 

Biggs

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<< I have the 700nf and am happy with my picture. The 753df is basicly the same monitor without the ultra-high refresh rates. >>



Erm, the 700NF is AG while the 753DF is SM. :)
 

propellerhead

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If you are upgrading a 14" for more desktop space, consider buying a midrange PCI video card and a second monitor. I have one 19" and two 17" monitors and I have a lot more desktop space than the single 21" I use at work.
 

dunkster

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I've been using a Samsung 955DF for some time. I never run resolution over 1024X768, and it's just great at that resolution for gaming and all apps that I use.

If you can find one for $200 or close to that, go for it. You'll be ecstatic with the 19" monitor after using a 14" monitor.

Hope this helps!
 

rarotonga

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Hey Cow,

Here's my thoughts on purchasing a monitor:

1. Look for a manufacturer that also mfg's the CDT (picture tube). This would include Samsung, LG Philips, Sony, Matsushita, Mitsubishi, Hansol, and Hitachi. All of the otehrs including Viewsonic purchase CDT's under an OEM contract basis. So from one month to the next you could be buying the same model but the CDT is different.

2. Look at the brightness figures for that monitor: 330cd/m2 brightness for entertainment, 200cd/m2 brightness for web browsing and 150cd/m2 brightness for word-processing.

3. The technology that is going into CDT's is into the "pure, true, super" flat tubes in the 17", 19" 21" sizes. Otherwise the "bubble" tubes are older technology and will not provide the best image or capabilities as the true flats.

4. Both LG Electronics and Samsung are investing in new CDT facilities for the 19"+ pure flat tubes. So a good start would be with these brands. LG I think are the real values as they don't have the name recognition of Samsung but are great monitors.

5. Warranty should be no less than 3 years. If it's 1 year then forget it.

6. Look for the following symbols: energy2000, tco'99, MPR-II, "energy2000" the newest.

7. Search for "short neck" design which again emphasizes the "age" of the tube you'll be getting.
 

Gosharkss

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<< Hey Cow,

Here's my thoughts on purchasing a monitor:

1. Look for a manufacturer that also mfg's the CDT (picture tube). This would include Samsung, LG Philips, Sony, Matsushita, Mitsubishi, Hansol, and Hitachi. All of the otehrs including Viewsonic purchase CDT's under an OEM contract basis. So from one month to the next you could be buying the same model but the CDT is different.

2. Look at the brightness figures for that monitor: 330cd/m2 brightness for entertainment, 200cd/m2 brightness for web browsing and 150cd/m2 brightness for word-processing.

3. The technology that is going into CDT's is into the "pure, true, super" flat tubes in the 17", 19" 21" sizes. Otherwise the "bubble" tubes are older technology and will not provide the best image or capabilities as the true flats.

4. Both LG Electronics and Samsung are investing in new CDT facilities for the 19"+ pure flat tubes. So a good start would be with these brands. LG I think are the real values as they don't have the name recognition of Samsung but are great monitors.

5. Warranty should be no less than 3 years. If it's 1 year then forget it.

6. Look for the following symbols: energy2000, tco'99, MPR-II, "energy2000" the newest.

7. Search for "short neck" design which again emphasizes the "age" of the tube you'll be getting.
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Rarotonga

1. With the exception of maybe Sony, all the other manufactures listed use other brands of CRT?s. Hitachi uses some Samsung tubes. Samsung uses some Chung-wa and Mitsubishi tubes depending on the model. Just because a company is a CRT and monitor manufacturer it does not mean that they always use their own tube. Hitachi shut down their CRT factories last year.

2. Brightness: The average factory setting for monitor brightness is 95 ? 100 Cd/m2. LCD monitor are in the 200 ? 300 range.

3. The so called bubble tubes actually perform better than the newer flat faced models. From what I have seen, the only real benefit of flat-faced monitors is some glare reduction. In general conventional CRT?s tend to give sharper characters for a few reasons. They tend to have a tighter horizontal dot pitch 0.22mm, better convergence specifications and the fact that the tube is curved in two directions makes it easier to adjust focus uniformity and convergence at the factory. This is not to say every conventional monitor will provide better text, these attributes simply increase the odds of getting better text. Monitors vary model to model and lot to lot.

4. Manufactures are investing in LCD factories not CRT factories.

5. Agree, some even offer 5 year warranties

6. Agree

7. I recommend against short neck CRTs. On short neck monitors I have found that focus and convergence, especially in the corners and around the edges is more of a problem.

Short neck monitors have the electron gun positioned closer to the face of the tube. As you move the gun closer to the face of the tube, the angle of deflection of the electron beam increases. Conventional tubes are typically 90-degree deflection, short neck tubes are 100-degree deflection. Deflecting the beam at a greater angle produces a more oblong beam shape especially in the corners and along the edges of the screen.

Try this experiment: Take a flashlight and aim it directly at a wall. You will see the beam shape is small and round. Now aim the light up into the corner near the ceiling. You will notice that the beam shape spreads out. The more acute the angle, the more the beam spreads. As the beam spreads out the focus of the beam is also degraded.

In simple terms, this is basically the same thing that happens in a CRT. This is also why monitors with curved screens on average tend to have better focus and convergence uniformity.