I am looking into a Type SH and I was wondering if there are any good forums out there for the Type SH.
Thanks
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Any 01 Prelude SH owners here?
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I've read about many gremlins with the ATTS system if and when it does decide to start acting up. That being said, I'd rather take a 5 speed base model and put in a quaiffe limited slip differential in it. The base and SH are both the same engines. Also, the sportshift automatic on the preludes has been prone to failure, and they are expensive to fix or replace. The prelude is a nice car, however.
true but the SH has more HP/torque.
reading on the Internet does not make something absolute. 70K miles and never a problem, ATTS makes that car what it is.
Base prelude and Prelude SH uses the same engine, so no HP or torque difference... SH is actually slower because of the ATTS system...
Wasn't the main difference other than the ATTS was the better suspension setup in the SH? And like the ^ guys above said, they use the same engine
like I said. SH has more horespower/torque. sure its only 5 but its still more.
Maybe try reading the link you post.quitely awaiting you to get pwned...like a cat anxiously awaiting the prey.
The SH was setup for less torque steer than the base. It is also a wee bit stiffer than the base. I wouldn't say if the SH suspension was actually "better" than the base.
taken from Honda-Tech
"-other than that, the suspension differs in that the upper and lower control arm designs were changed to reduce torque steer. it is slightly stiffer too.
There are actually quite a few differences between the base and the Type SH suspension, The springs are not the same. The type SH springs are a little taller. The struts are different as well, the base where the spring is perched sits lower on the Type SH, hence the taller spring. It results in a little firmer spring rate than the base. Lets not forget to mention the front knuckles are different, the raius rods, the front trailing arms, and the roll bars are a couple of millimeters thicker than the base front and rear. In the rear the springs and struts are different on the SH, it has the same condition as the front where the perch that the spring sits on is slightly lower than the base model, and the spring is slightly taller than the base model, It is not as big of a difference between the SH and Base rears as the fronts are though, the rear trailing arms are a little thicker as well but not much. The only problems with aftermarket struts would be modifying the dust gaurds on the struts with stock springs, however if you go aftermarket springs and struts that are replaced in tandem you will not run into any issues.."
Originally posted by: spidey07
like I said. SH has more horespower/torque. sure its only 5 but its still more.
quitely awaiting you to get pwned...like a cat anxiously awaiting the prey.
There was an engine hp change between the 97-98 ludes and the 99-01 ludes, if YOU were to actually read the table they made. They both still had the same power between the SH and the base for either year run.
Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Originally posted by: spidey07
like I said. SH has more horespower/torque. sure its only 5 but its still more.
quitely awaiting you to get pwned...like a cat anxiously awaiting the prey.
There was an engine hp change between the 97-98 ludes and the 99-01 ludes, if YOU were to actually read the table they made. They both still had the same power between the SH and the base for either year run.
nope. read the link again. see that number in parenthesis?
I'm pretty sure the SH had different exhaust. Not sure...just pretty sure.
Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Originally posted by: spidey07
like I said. SH has more horespower/torque. sure its only 5 but its still more.
quitely awaiting you to get pwned...like a cat anxiously awaiting the prey.
There was an engine hp change between the 97-98 ludes and the 99-01 ludes, if YOU were to actually read the table they made. They both still had the same power between the SH and the base for either year run.
I think he's comparing the automatic version of the Base Prelude to the Prelude SH, since the SH is always an automatic...
Originally posted by: BCYL
Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Originally posted by: spidey07
like I said. SH has more horespower/torque. sure its only 5 but its still more.
quitely awaiting you to get pwned...like a cat anxiously awaiting the prey.
There was an engine hp change between the 97-98 ludes and the 99-01 ludes, if YOU were to actually read the table they made. They both still had the same power between the SH and the base for either year run.
I think he's comparing the automatic version of the Base Prelude to the Prelude SH, since the SH is always an automatic...
that's the catch. The SH did not come in an automatic, manual only actually.
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Originally posted by: spidey07
like I said. SH has more horespower/torque. sure its only 5 but its still more.
quitely awaiting you to get pwned...like a cat anxiously awaiting the prey.
There was an engine hp change between the 97-98 ludes and the 99-01 ludes, if YOU were to actually read the table they made. They both still had the same power between the SH and the base for either year run.
nope. read the link again. see that number in parenthesis?
I'm pretty sure the SH had different exhaust. Not sure...just pretty sure.
The paranthsis are teh HP numbers for the AUTOMATIC. The SH did no come in an AUTOMATIC. for any given base or SH (either the 97-98 or the 99-01) 5 SPEED manual transmission, they had the same power.
Edit: and the reason the SH and the base have differnt exhaust is because of the rerouting needed on the SH for the ATTS system. Thats why the exhausts are different.
Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Originally posted by: spidey07
like I said. SH has more horespower/torque. sure its only 5 but its still more.
quitely awaiting you to get pwned...like a cat anxiously awaiting the prey.
There was an engine hp change between the 97-98 ludes and the 99-01 ludes, if YOU were to actually read the table they made. They both still had the same power between the SH and the base for either year run.
nope. read the link again. see that number in parenthesis?
I'm pretty sure the SH had different exhaust. Not sure...just pretty sure.
The paranthsis are teh HP numbers for the AUTOMATIC. The SH did no come in an AUTOMATIC. for any given base or SH (either the 97-98 or the 99-01) 5 SPEED manual transmission, they had the same power.
Ah, now you got it. SH has more horsepower.
Then I fail to see where the extra 5hp for the SH comes in... Both the Base Prelude (5-spd) and the Prelude SH (5-spd) of 99-01 has 200hp...
I dont get it either?... what i see is that a manual Base and a manual SH has the same HP rating.
what "extra" 5hp? Honda made some ECU and engine tuning chages between the 97-98 and the 99-01 years, thats why the 99-01 cars have 200hp instead of 195 of the previous 97-98.
Originally posted by: spidey07
SH has 5 more horsepower than automatic non-SH.
that was my point.
ok, so you make that your point after the fact? you declined state in your ealier posts that you were talking about the automatic until now. you did however state that the SH did not come in an automatic. But how are you supposed to compare an manual SH to an automatic base? that figure is just a drivetrain loss. the actual engines still put out the same power.
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