Antonio Vivaldi is the best classical composer (Necro)

[ManBearPig]

Followed by Bach.

I have only two Vivaldi albums though: concerti e sinfonie per archi and the Four Seasons.

 

[mercanucaribe]

Neither of those guys wrote Kashmir, so I don't know how you can make that statement.

 

[DainBramaged]

It's impossible to say that any one is the best. I like Shostakovich, Rachmaninoff, Chopin, Schuman, Beethoven, Mozart, Telemann, Bach, Vivaldi, plus many more. However, I will have a Vivaldi song played at my funeral, so that shows my level of respect for him.

 

[dudeman007]

After playing some of his pieces, I definitely have a great appreciation for him.

 

[KillerCharlie]

You mean Baroque? Mozart is my favorite classical (in both senses of the word) composer.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Considering he wasn't a classical composer, I'm impressed by his ability to be your favorite.

 

[ManBearPig]

I knew i should've said Baroque lol. Too bad...I'm getting into it but i don't know a lot about it (Baroque, Classical, instrumental music basically).

1)Is it hard to play Vivaldi?

2)What song are you going to have played at your funeral?

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: Heen05

1)Is it hard to play Vivaldi?

Playing Vivaldi is pretty straight forward but the wig itches.

 

[MustangSVT]

Originally posted by: DainBramaged
It's impossible to say that any one is the best. I like Shostakovich, Rachmaninoff, Chopin, Schuman, Beethoven, Mozart, Telemann, Bach, Vivaldi, plus many more. However, I will have a Vivaldi song played at my funeral, so that shows my level of respect for him.

I'll make sure it gets switched to Brittny spears

 

[oboeguy]

Originally posted by: Heen05
1)Is it hard to play Vivaldi?

It's not easy, though I imagine it depends on the piece.

Vivaldi's great, but he's no Bach or Mozart. Both of them, AFAIC, were taking dictation from upstairs, if you follow me.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: MustangSVT

Originally posted by: DainBramaged
It's impossible to say that any one is the best. I like Shostakovich, Rachmaninoff, Chopin, Schuman, Beethoven, Mozart, Telemann, Bach, Vivaldi, plus many more. However, I will have a Vivaldi song played at my funeral, so that shows my level of respect for him.

I'll make sure it gets switched to Brittny spears

She can borrow his wig.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Vivaldi is my favorite baroque composer, but academics and critics would all laugh at the suggestion that he is the greatest composer of all time.

A Vivaldi CD worth searching for is Jakob Lindberg - Complete works for the italian lute (Bis CD-290)

An excelent Bach CD is Sharon Isbin's Complete Lute Suites (Virgin Classics VC7 59503-2 / 259 575-231)

 

[ManBearPig]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Vivaldi is my favorite baroque composer, but academics and critics would all laugh at the suggestion that he is the greatest composer of all time.

A Vivaldi CD worth searching for is Jakob Lindberg - Complete works for the italian lute (Bis CD-290)

An excelent Bach CD is Sharon Isbin's Complete Lute Suites (Virgin Classics VC7 59503-2 / 259 575-231)

Why? And thanks for the suggestions.

 

[Analog]

He's good, no question. Best? How could you compare?

Mozart, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Bach, Scarlatti, they're up there too!

 

[ManBearPig]

bump for effect

 

[potato28]

It's impossible for Vivaldi and Bach to be the greatest classical artists. They wrote music in the Baroque era

 

[Triumph]

I think it's sad that although I studied music up to and including the Baroque era, and listen to said music, that I didn't know that. I'm pathetic.

 

[brxndxn]

I think Canon in D is the best Baroque piece ever written.. so Pachebel > Vivaldi.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: Heen05

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Vivaldi is my favorite baroque composer, but academics and critics would all laugh at the suggestion that he is the greatest composer of all time.

A Vivaldi CD worth searching for is Jakob Lindberg - Complete works for the italian lute (Bis CD-290)

An excelent Bach CD is Sharon Isbin's Complete Lute Suites (Virgin Classics VC7 59503-2 / 259 575-231)

Why? And thanks for the suggestions.

Two reasons:
1. Most critics and academics would say Vivaldi repeated himself more, or had less variation in his works than "better" composers. There's a joke among critics and art music snobs that Vivaldi "only wrote one concerto" not 200, because they all sound the same. (Even though it isn't true.)

2. Because the composers after Vivaldi and Bach worte more complex, challenging and "better" works.

Don't let that stop you from keeping them as your favorite composers. I listen to Bach and Vivialdi much more often than Beethoven and Mozart myself.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Neither of those guys wrote Kashmir, so I don't know how you can make that statement.

That put the widest grin on my face

 

[Goosemaster]

Sibelius, Rimsky-korsokov are some of my immediate favorites, more for the intense emotion they incorporate in their pieces.

Beethoven is a master, no doubt, as was Mozart, but I just love Sibelius' stuff to much.

 

[oboeguy]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Sibelius, Rimsky-korsokov are some of my immediate favorites, more for the intense emotion they incorporate in their pieces.

Beethoven is a master, no doubt, as was Mozart, but I just love Sibelius' stuff to much.

Heh, that's funny you should say "intense emotion", because that's what Baroque music is all about. Well summarized here:

Baroque musicians were not concerned with expressing their own feelings and emotions, rather they sought to describe with objectivity, feelings and emotions which were distinct from what they actually felt. One result of the musicians' distancing themselves from the emotions they depicted was a certain emotional detachment. Some critics have, as a result, found Baroque music to be somewhat cold. However, this evaluation ignores the ultimate goal of Baroque music, a goal attained then as now when Baroque music is properly performed. Composers' and performers' skillful and accurate musical depictions of objectively described emotions did and still do evoke emotional, feeling responses in its listeners. Baroque music stirs "the passions of the soul".

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: oboeguy

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Sibelius, Rimsky-korsokov are some of my immediate favorites, more for the intense emotion they incorporate in their pieces.

Beethoven is a master, no doubt, as was Mozart, but I just love Sibelius' stuff to much.

Heh, that's funny you should say "intense emotion", because that's what Baroque music is all about. Well summarized here:

Baroque musicians were not concerned with expressing their own feelings and emotions, rather they sought to describe with objectivity, feelings and emotions which were distinct from what they actually felt. One result of the musicians' distancing themselves from the emotions they depicted was a certain emotional detachment. Some critics have, as a result, found Baroque music to be somewhat cold. However, this evaluation ignores the ultimate goal of Baroque music, a goal attained then as now when Baroque music is properly performed. Composers' and performers' skillful and accurate musical depictions of objectively described emotions did and still do evoke emotional, feeling responses in its listeners. Baroque music stirs "the passions of the soul".

There are so many bad renditions out there. Only a few have ever spurred my interest.

 

[oboeguy]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: oboeguy

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Sibelius, Rimsky-korsokov are some of my immediate favorites, more for the intense emotion they incorporate in their pieces.

Beethoven is a master, no doubt, as was Mozart, but I just love Sibelius' stuff to much.

Heh, that's funny you should say "intense emotion", because that's what Baroque music is all about. Well summarized here:

Baroque musicians were not concerned with expressing their own feelings and emotions, rather they sought to describe with objectivity, feelings and emotions which were distinct from what they actually felt. One result of the musicians' distancing themselves from the emotions they depicted was a certain emotional detachment. Some critics have, as a result, found Baroque music to be somewhat cold. However, this evaluation ignores the ultimate goal of Baroque music, a goal attained then as now when Baroque music is properly performed. Composers' and performers' skillful and accurate musical depictions of objectively described emotions did and still do evoke emotional, feeling responses in its listeners. Baroque music stirs "the passions of the soul".

There are so many bad renditions out there. Only a few have ever spurred my interest.

No more excuses

Seriously, I saw this guy live a couple of weeks ago at Carnegie. Off the @#$%ing hook. Three encores. I even got the disc and had it autographed on the spot.

Edit: and if you're into this intense emotion stuff with big orchestras, you really need to do yourself a favor and listen to Mahler.

 

[dennilfloss]

Bach is my favourite classical composer, followed by Vivaldi. I definitely enjoy Baroque more than the subsequent classical styles. While maybe not as demanding or complicated for musicians, it just strikes me as more beautiful to listen to.