Antidepressants found in fish brains

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Jeez how many people are on these things? I think depression is over diagnosed and over medicated.

Suddenly everyone is convinced sadness is abnormal. It's like get a clue: If your loved one just died and you're sad: that's not abnormal!
 

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BA DA DA DA DAH

I'm loving it... because you know... antidepressants
 

Sonikku

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Jeez how many people are on these things? I think depression is over diagnosed and over medicated.

Suddenly everyone is convinced sadness is abnormal. It's like get a clue: If your loved one just died and you're sad: that's not abnormal!
Indeed. Hell, when I was in the hospital they made me take antidepressants. And then they made me go to a therapist that prescribed more of them upon my discharge. :(
 

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Indeed. Hell, when I was in the hospital they made me take antidepressants. And then they made me go to a therapist that prescribed more of them upon my discharge. :(

Sorry you had to go through that. Are you feeling better lately?

Some people need antidepressants, I'm not against them being prescribed appropriately.
 

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I wonder what makes this stuff so hard to filter out, it's a serious issue but lot of prescription medications end up in the sea as it comes out of people's pee etc and somehow slips past the waste water filtration systems. Hopefully at some point they can figure out how to filter it, and perhaps re-filter the water that's already in the sea with special ships or something. Could probably be a drone ship that is just self powered and you just let it go.
 
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Sorry you had to go through that. Are you feeling better lately?

Some people need antidepressants, I'm not against them being prescribed appropriately.
My problems still seem insurmountable, but the suicidal thoughts are not gnawing on my mind all day and night like they had been. Whether or not the drugs were what did that however is debatable.
 

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My mom was talking to me about this a year or two ago. She'd read more than a few articles stating the exponential growth in prescription meds is causing a serious problem in Americas water supply. The waste systems are designed to remove bugs and basic chemicals. Not drugs. And that shit is starting to build up.

At the time I thought she was reading paranoia or propaganda. Now I begin to wonder.
 

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My problems still seem insurmountable, but the suicidal thoughts are not gnawing on my mind all day and night like they had been. Whether or not the drugs were what did that however is debatable.

For some people the catalyst for suicidal ideation is the realization that life didn't turn out as they expected it would. Although how people deal with that realization is very varied depending on a number of factors.

Sometimes problems can seem insurmountable even if they really aren't when we lack the ability to overcome them. That lack of ability is temporary. If you just make progress every day, even a little bit at a time, eventually you're likely to achieve your goals. Patience is often lacking in this instant gratification addicted (through no fault of their own) society.

Here's a cool video on the topic: https://youtu.be/As8XkJNaHbs

While it might not be directly applicable to your specific situation, it's interesting and can serve as a distraction or entertainment at the very least, or at best inspirational or eye opening.
 
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Jeez how many people are on these things? I think depression is over diagnosed and over medicated.

Suddenly everyone is convinced sadness is abnormal. It's like get a clue: If your loved one just died and you're sad: that's not abnormal!
Why can't fish be treated for depression?
 

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They found high levels of prescription drugs in our local lake , antidepressants among them. They blamed it on people flushing unused drugs. Of course they didn't mention the Large Drug Manufacturer here in town ... I wonder how much drugs They flush ?
 

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I wonder what makes this stuff so hard to filter out, it's a serious issue but lot of prescription medications end up in the sea as it comes out of people's pee etc and somehow slips past the waste water filtration systems. Hopefully at some point they can figure out how to filter it, and perhaps re-filter the water that's already in the sea with special ships or something. Could probably be a drone ship that is just self powered and you just let it go.


It's not being filtered. Not like water treatment plant is doing full RO on the sewage. Hell there are still many cities that dump raw sewage into the waterway.
 
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Jeez how many people are on these things? I think depression is over diagnosed and over medicated.

Suddenly everyone is convinced sadness is abnormal. It's like get a clue: If your loved one just died and you're sad: that's not abnormal!

Because big pharma wants your business. Sadness like happiness is a part of life. You're not going to be in this happy blitz for life.

Like I said, sadness is just a state. Feeling sad? There are many ways to turn that around. Exercising is one. It's been scientifically proven that happier people exercise. I know when I exercise I feel great. Meditation is another. Practicing consciousness. Being aware that the sadness you are feeling is normal. I also think staying busy is very important.

In the end most people just want it easy, so they take the pill. The shortcut. In the long term they pay the price with years lost and addiction.
 

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Because big pharma wants your business. Sadness like happiness is a part of life. You're not going to be in this happy blitz for life.

Like I said, sadness is just a state. Feeling sad? There are many ways to turn that around. Exercising is one. It's been scientifically proven that happier people exercise. I know when I exercise I feel great. Meditation is another. Practicing consciousness. Being aware that the sadness you are feeling is normal. I also think staying busy is very important.

In the end most people just want it easy, so they take the pill. The shortcut. In the long term they pay the price with years lost and addiction.



Feeling "sad" and suffering from clinical depression are two very different things.

Also I don't think anti-depressants have a high addiction risk.
 

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It's not being filtered. Not like water treatment plant is doing full RO on the sewage. Hell there are still many cities that dump raw sewage into the waterway.

That's another thing that needs to be stopped. It's crazy to think that this happens in this day and age. Funny thing is biological weapons are against the Geneva convention, yet it's somehow allowed to essentially pollute water ways with it in non war situations. All this eventually ends up in the ocean so it does become an international issue. People worry about Fukushima, but I'd be worrying more about the billions of gallons of sewage that find their way in the ocean.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Fish Heads, Fish Heads,
Roly-Poly Fish Heads,
Fish Heads, Fish Heads
Eat them up, YUM!


Good news for people whose old Prozac prescription just doesn't carry the same impact as it used to and want a secondary source for chemical happiness. Bite the head off a carp, problem solved.
 
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shortylickens

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Fish Heads, Fish Heads,
Roly-Poly Fish Heads,
Fish Heads, Fish Heads
Eat them up, YUM!


Good news for people whose old Prozac prescription just doesn't carry the same impact as it used to and want a secondary source for chemical happiness. Bite the head off a carp, problem solved.

Prozac would never that great to begin with. It didnt work on many people, it didn't always work well, and it was inappropriately prescribed to kids for a very long time before they realized it actually makes things worse.