Anti war protester commits self immolation

Jun 27, 2005
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What an idiot.

He lights himself on fire for the cause and nobody knows anything about it for five days until they identify him. Then he's a minor news curiosity for a few days. Then the US attention span moves on to the new season of 24.

He killed himself for nothing.
 

brownzilla786

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It really sucks for him that nobody really noticed, if he had done it in time square or at an anti war rally then that would really attract attention. Suicide for protest does not seem logical for me, but its a strong point none the less.
 

Jaskalas

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Jun 23, 2004
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Great countries do not fall from without before falling from within.

I?d like to thank the media, on this fine example of transmitted doom and gloom. Our lack of will has not only made us falter, we have now turned to celebrating malignant necrosis.
 

wetech

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Originally posted by: Blackjack2000
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Anti_War_Suicide.html

Incredibly brave act, this guy knew what he was doing and tried to shake the nation awake. His death will probably save lives in the long run.

perhaps you missed the part of the article where it said he suffered from depression and was coping with alcoholism. Brave, maybe (it takes guts to set yourself on fire), but I doubt this guy really knew what he was doing. Sounds more like he needed some professional help.
 

Craig234

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May 1, 2006
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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Blackjack2000
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Anti_War_Suicide.html

Incredibly brave act, this guy knew what he was doing and tried to shake the nation awake. His death will probably save lives in the long run.

wait.......stop the presses...you have to be kidding....
Shades of vietnam?? hardly....that guy was an idiot plain and simple!!

Ignoramus, there was a well-known self-immolation which occured to protest the Viet Nam war, by a Quaker, and a father, at the Pentagon. It moved many people.

A Buddhist monk similarly expressed their profound opposition to the repression of buddhists by the catholic Diem; similar to some right-wingers in this forum, his sister-in-law trivialized that with the comment that it was a 'Bonze barbeques', shocking many Americans by her insensitivity and opening their eyes to the problem, with JFK ultimately finding the Diem administration, and his particular Diem's refusal to restrict the behaviors by 'Dragon Lady' Nhu and her brothers, the buddhist repression, unacceptable and he allowed a coup in which Diem and his brother were killed. She had been disowned by her own parents for her position favoring the buddhist repression.

I find the comments in the thread trivializing this contemptible and disgusting.
 

Kadarin

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Nov 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
What an idiot.

He lights himself on fire for the cause and nobody knows anything about it for five days until they identify him. Then he's a minor news curiosity for a few days. Then the US attention span moves on to the new season of 24.

He killed himself for nothing.

Yep, that's about the size of it..
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: shira
As much as I agree with Ritscher's opinion on Iraq, I think his act was futile. I honestly can't see how this act will change anyone's attitudes.

Come on! The bleeding heart liberals live for this kind of thing!
 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: Craig234

I find the comments in the thread trivializing this contemptible and disgusting.

Oh boo-hoo :roll:

You somehow failed to notice that the OP exploits some poor guy's sickness and suicide for cheap political points. Disgusting indeed.

 

5to1baby1in5

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"Without fear I go now to God," Ritscher wrote in the last sentence of his suicide note. "Your future is what you will choose today."

I don't think we's going to God. I watched "Constantine," and I know where suicides go.:evil:

 

miketheidiot

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Sep 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: 5to1baby1in5
"Without fear I go now to God," Ritscher wrote in the last sentence of his suicide note. "Your future is what you will choose today."

I don't think we's going to God. I watched "Constantine," and I know where suicides go.:evil:

way to get your theology from a movie.



idiot.
 

Arkaign

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Oct 27, 2006
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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: 5to1baby1in5
"Without fear I go now to God," Ritscher wrote in the last sentence of his suicide note. "Your future is what you will choose today."

I don't think we's going to God. I watched "Constantine," and I know where suicides go.:evil:

way to get your theology from a movie.



idiot.


Heh, I think perhaps he was teh joking ;)

Just a thought
 

dahunan

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Jan 10, 2002
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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Great countries do not fall from without before falling from within.

I?d like to thank the media, on this fine example of transmitted doom and gloom. Our lack of will has not only made us falter, we have now turned to celebrating malignant necrosis.

I keep hearing lack of will.. what about lack of legitimacy and lack of morality and lack of common fvckin sense and lack of intelligence
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: shira
As much as I agree with Ritscher's opinion on Iraq, I think his act was futile. I honestly can't see how this act will change anyone's attitudes.

Come on! The bleeding heart liberals live for this kind of thing!

And empty christians like you love murderous wars ;)

*go find a mirror
 

Enig101

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I'm a liberal-leaning sort of person and I believe that killing oneself to make a statement is a pretty ridiculous thing to do. I have severe doubts he commited suicide out of sheer strength of conviction against the war. It is a sad story when a life is wasted.
 

CaptnKirk

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I don't recall any Americans torching themselves over the Vietnam War - that was the protest of a branch of Buddist Monks in South Vietnam.

The only 'Torcning' of Americans that I remember was accidental contacts -'Friendly Fire' incidents
incured with Napalm or White Phosphorus in 'Broken Arrow' incidents when incindeary weapons
were called in on our own position to terminate over-runs of encampments or combat units when
they had been cut off from the main group, or were in the process of being exterminitated
on the post-battlefield by NVA clean-up committees sent to kill the wounded American survivors.
 

JEDIYoda

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Jul 13, 2005
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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Blackjack2000
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Anti_War_Suicide.html

Incredibly brave act, this guy knew what he was doing and tried to shake the nation awake. His death will probably save lives in the long run.

wait.......stop the presses...you have to be kidding....
Shades of vietnam?? hardly....that guy was an idiot plain and simple!!

Ignoramus, there was a well-known self-immolation which occured to protest the Viet Nam war, by a Quaker, and a father, at the Pentagon. It moved many people.

A Buddhist monk similarly expressed their profound opposition to the repression of buddhists by the catholic Diem; similar to some right-wingers in this forum, his sister-in-law trivialized that with the comment that it was a 'Bonze barbeques', shocking many Americans by her insensitivity and opening their eyes to the problem, with JFK ultimately finding the Diem administration, and his particular Diem's refusal to restrict the behaviors by 'Dragon Lady' Nhu and her brothers, the buddhist repression, unacceptable and he allowed a coup in which Diem and his brother were killed. She had been disowned by her own parents for her position favoring the buddhist repression.

I find the comments in the thread trivializing this contemptible and disgusting.

You are entitled to your opinion......just remember that everyone else also is entitled to there opinions!!