Anti-Semitism: A growing epidemic, or overexaggerated to keep the money flowing in?

[yllus]

I'm not sure I agree with the stipulation the editorialist starts with: That anti-Semitism is dead in Canada. That said, I've always found it interesting and useful to examine the motives and incentives of anyone with a public voice in order to get added insight on why they say what they do. That's the takeaway from this for me - occasionally question the motives even the dogooderest of the dogooders.

In the case of B'nai Brith Canada, a "Jewish advocacy and community volunteer service organization," it would seem that their advocacy work lately centres around being hypersensitive and divisive. They've made use of the draconian thought police "human rights tribunals" that infect Canada to shut down free speech and most recently have attacked the head of the Vancouver Olympics by equating the exclusion of women's ski jumping in the 2010 Games to the removal of Jewish athletes from the 1936 event in Berlin.

There's no (sane) comparison

[B'nai Brith Canada]'s age-old campaign to fight Jew hatred has been won: With the exception of a few radical Muslims and pathetic neo-Nazis, Canadians just aren't that anti-Semitic anymore.

Every year, B'nai Brith puts out an "audit" of anti-Semitic incidents in Canada. And every year, the document is reported on by the mass media, which uncritically parrots the group's absurd contention that anti-Semitism is a growing epidemic in this tolerant country. Reporters politely overlook the fact that B'nai Brith's definition of "incident" is dumbed down: Any web posting, stray comment, or scrap of graffiti fits the bill. This allows B'nai Brith to reel off thousands of examples.

Most readers don't stop to scrutinize how trivial these examples are: They just look at the impressive-seeming bar graphs, which purport to show a Jewish community in a constant state of terror. The result: Older Jews with dark historical memories become terrified, and the donations to B'nai Brith come rolling in.

But this week, B'nai Brith well and truly jumped the shark -- ironically enough, on the issue of female ski jumping.

The underlying controversy is, by now, quite stale and well-known: The Winter Olympics, including the Vancouver 2010 instalment, hold events for male ski jumpers, but not for female ski jumpers. It is an issue that has been litigated, and the Supreme Court of Canada recently settled the debate by declaring that it would not hear an appeal in regard to the 2010 Games.

Enter B'nai Brith, whose staff are apparently so bored that they feel the need to leap into the politics of an Aryan-dominated alpine sport that has about as much to do with Judaism as luge, ultimate fighting, glacier-climbing and pork salting. (The phrase "famous Jewish ski jumpers" gets zero hits.)

According to a Monday press release from B'nai Brith, "The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada has called on the International Olympic Committee (IOC) and the Vancouver Olympic Organizing Committee (VANOC) to reconsider the continued exclusion of Women's Ski Jumping from the upcoming Olympic Games ... In a letter to John Furlong, CEO of VANOC, the league recalled the 1936 Berlin Olympics when the OIC turned a blind eye to Hitler's fascist regime, which was even then implementing discriminatory policies against Jews that impacted Games that year. The league asks the OIC and the Vancouver Olympic Organizing Committee (VANOC) to focus on its policies and practices relating to discrimination, 'and that includes eliminating discrimination against women now, just as it should have included resistance to discrimination against Jews then.'"

We actually had to call B'nai Brith to make sure this wasn't a hoax.

 

[Dari]

First, you need to define what 'anti-semitism' is. If it includes accusations such as most or all Arabs being labelled as 'terrorists' then yes. However, if Jews want to claim themselves as the only Semites, then it's a non-starter and stupid.

 

[yllus]

Everyone knows what the modern-day definition of a Semite is. Most pointless Internet argument ever.

 

[Dari]

Everyone knows what the modern-day definition of a Semite is. Most pointless Internet argument ever.

So, what is it?

 

[JS80]

First, you need to define what 'anti-semitism' is. If it includes accusations such as most or all Arabs being labelled as 'terrorists' then yes. However, if Jews want to claim themselves as the only Semites, then it's a non-starter and stupid.

Holy Moses man why do you bring this up every fucking time?

 

[Pulsar]

Because, by subtlely redefining the term through nuanced wording, he can slant it more toward his viewpoint each time he posts.

Duh.

 

[JS80]

Let's assume author is correct in that institutional canadian anti-semitism is no more, it behooves Jewish groups to keep "the money flowing in" so that people don't forget or become complacent.

 

[JS80]

Because, by subtlely redefining the term through nuanced wording, he can slant it more toward his viewpoint each time he posts.

Duh.

Duh indeed. Everyone knows this.

 

[Dari]

Holy Moses man why do you bring this up every fucking time?

Because it's no different from African-Americans hijacking the word 'racist'. If a black person is attacked by a group of white men, it's racism. But if a white person is attacked by a group of black men, it's not considered racism. Claiming something for yourself while denying others is inherently wrong and stupid. So when an Arab is attacked for all the wrong reasons it is not anti-semitism but when a Jew is attacked it is? Come on, language is based upon definitions. Use it properly.

 

[JS80]

Because it's no different from African-Americans hijacking the word 'racist'. If a black person is attacked by a group of white men, it's racism. But if a white person is attacked by a group of black men, it's not considered racism. Claiming something for yourself while denying others is inherently wrong and stupid. So when an Arab is attacked for all the wrong reasons it is not anti-semitism but when a Jew is attacked it is? Come on, language is based upon definitions. Use it properly.

Come on that is a horrible analogy. Better analogy would be if blacks coined the term anti-Africanism and then you sounding the alarm saying the term is wrong because there are arab states in Africa. In which case you would look equally foolish.

If you want to get technical, anti-semitism does not equal anti semite.

 

[woolfe9999]

Because it's no different from African-Americans hijacking the word 'racist'. If a black person is attacked by a group of white men, it's racism. But if a white person is attacked by a group of black men, it's not considered racism. Claiming something for yourself while denying others is inherently wrong and stupid. So when an Arab is attacked for all the wrong reasons it is not anti-semitism but when a Jew is attacked it is? Come on, language is based upon definitions. Use it properly.

Blacks haven't copted the term "racist." The term is also used when referring to discrimination against hispanics, asians, and yes, muslims.

Furthermore, Jews did not claim this term for themselves. Although a Jew probably first used the term, it was used in relation to non-Jews using the term "semitic races." When anti-semitism was first used, it referred to more than just Jews. However, anti-Jewish writers soon adopted the term "anti-semtism" as self-referrential, which is how it came to be identified exclusively with being anti-Jewish. If you have a problem with the way this term evolved, then I'm afraid your beef is with anti-Jewish writers of the 19th century, not with Jews.

- wolf

 

[woolfe9999]

I'm not sure I agree with the stipulation the editorialist starts with: That anti-Semitism is dead in Canada. That said, I've always found it interesting and useful to examine the motives and incentives of anyone with a public voice in order to get added insight on why they say what they do. That's the takeaway from this for me - occasionally question the motives even the dogooderest of the dogooders.

In the case of B'nai Brith Canada, a "Jewish advocacy and community volunteer service organization," it would seem that their advocacy work lately centres around being hypersensitive and divisive. They've made use of the draconian thought police "human rights tribunals" that infect Canada to shut down free speech and most recently have attacked the head of the Vancouver Olympics by equating the exclusion of women's ski jumping in the 2010 Games to the removal of Jewish athletes from the 1936 event in Berlin.

There's no (sane) comparison

Another way of looking at this is, shouldn't an organization whose purpose is to combat racism against Jews also concern itself with other forms of bigotry or else be viewed as acting out of pure ethnic self-interest, rather than a broader concern about combatting bigotry no matter who the victim? Maybe this ski jumping issue was the wrong one to stick their noses in. I don't know. But the author of the article seems to think they shouldn't be commenting on issues that have nothing to do with Jews.

- wolf

 

[Dari]

Blacks haven't copted the term "racist." The term is also used when referring to discrimination against hispanics, asians, and yes, muslims.

Furthermore, Jews did not claim this term for themselves. Although a Jew probably first used the term, it was used in relation to non-Jews using the term "semitic races." When anti-semitism was first used, it referred to more than just Jews. However, anti-Jewish writers soon adopted the term "anti-semtism" as self-referrential, which is how it came to be identified exclusively with being anti-Jewish. If you have a problem with the way this term evolved, then I'm afraid your beef is with anti-Jewish writers of the 19th century, not with Jews.

- wolf

This changes nothing.

 

[wwswimming]

When people talk about various criminal acts of Israel, such as the murder of American citizen Rachel Corrie, organizations such as the ADL whine and try to use the term "anti-Semitic".

Also, the term as used by the ADL is wildly in-accurate. Most Jewish people are Khazarian in origin, and did not have ancestors that were Semitic.

In fact, it is the Palestinian people who are Semitic.

I suggest that pointing out a group's criminal behavior - such as Israel's false flag attacks (the Lavon Affair, the attack on the King David Hotel, the attacks that preceded the 6 day war & included the attack on the USS Liberty) is much different from killing a group of people.

Israel killing 1400 Palestinian civilians a year ago - now that is anti-Semitic.

Talking about Israel's various crimes is not anti-Semitic, any more than boycotting White Christian South Africa was anti-white or anti-Christian.

For people who are interested in studying history, I suggest one of Benjamin Freedman's speeches. First, who is Benjamin Freedman. Born in 1890, he was a successful Jewish businessman of New York City at one time principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company. He broke with organized Jewry after the Judeo-Communist victory of 1945.

A successful & wealthy Jewish business man with a thorough understanding of history, Freedman began to speak out against Israel. These are *.mp3's from one of his speeches.

http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Benjamin.H.Freedman/Willard.Hotel.1961/01%20Preface.mp3
http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Benjamin.H.Freedman/Willard.Hotel.1961/02 WWI.mp3
http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Benjamin.H.Freedman/Willard.Hotel.1961/03 The Balfour Declaration.mp3
http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Benjamin.H.Freedman/Willard.Hotel.1961/04 Jewish ultimatum.mp3
http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Benj...rd.Hotel.1961/05 Holy War against Germany.mp3
http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Benjamin.H.Freedman/Willard.Hotel.1961/06 Christian or Communist.mp3
http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Benjamin.H.Freedman/Willard.Hotel.1961/07 The Khazars.mp3
http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Benjamin.H.Freedman/Willard.Hotel.1961/08 The Kol Nidre.mp3
http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Benjamin.H.Freedman/Willard.Hotel.1961/09 Common Sense.mp3
http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Benjamin.H.Freedman/Willard.Hotel.1961/10 About the word Jew.mp3
http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Benjamin.H.Freedman/Willard.Hotel.1961/11 Loyalty among Jews.mp3
http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Benj...l.1961/12 Jews were driven out of England.mp3
http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Benjamin.H.Freedman/Willard.Hotel.1961/13 Benjamin Franklin.mp3
http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Benj...d.Hotel.1961/14 The Republic of the Alamo.mp3

Was Benjamin Freedman anti-Semitic or anti-Criminal ?

There is certainly not an epidemic of anti-Semitism. There is, unfortunately, an epidemic of crimes committed by criminals who happen to be Jewish.

In modern times, that would be the crimes of Israel, and the fraud associated with the financial services industry which has caused our recent banking collapse. Bernie Madoff - former head of the SEC - being the tip of the iceberg.

To substantiate this observation about the financial services industry, I suggest an interview about Brooksley Born.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooksley_Born

She was Chair of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission during the Clinton administration. It was her job to investigate crime, including fraud, occurring in the financial services industry. She was extremely concerned about credit derivatives. She foresaw their ability to do the damage that they did in 2007 to present.

Ms. Born was prevented from doing her job by 3 very powerful men - Alan Greenspan, Robert Rubin, and Larry Summers. Greenspan et al just happened to be Jewish bankers - and they prevented Ms. Born from regulating the industry it was her job to regulate. She resigned after 3 years of trying to do her job.

Was Ms. Born anti-Semitic or anti-Criminal ?

 

[Zebo]

Dead? You mean like the ALL-ISRAEL-ALL-THE-TIME UN who ignores genocides everywhere like Darfur or Tibet and thousands of others while singularly focusing on Israel? Or the economic boycotts by virtually all 53 Islamic states? The hate media and blood liable on their networks? Or the Muslims beating Jews on the streets of Europe and holding signs like this

And lets not forget about the neo-nazi's ever present in Europe. European neo nazi's these days are just more clever and use the UN to do it's bidding & holocaust continuation policies - and all holocaust denial parroted in Muslim world comes from Europe's universities.

Sorry to say old habits die hard and Jews are hated more than even blacks almost universally.

 

[Craig234]

Maybe if Israel's position changed from saying they can ignore all international law at will and build illegal settlements all they like for decades because they have the might of the US behind them, the UN wouldn't pay them as much attention. What was Israel's reaction to the report by a Jew condemning them and Palestenians both for war crimes recently? Oy, ya, they dismissed it.

 

[Zebo]

Yeah right and Germany has a moral right to demand the return of Alsace-Lorraine and Aldo Adige back. Sorry doesnt work that way.

They are only 'illegal' because anti-semitic UN does not afford the same rules of warfare and postwar settlement to the Jews. Rules that entitled Italy to keep the Algo Adige after World War I, or allowed Poland to keep part of what was East Prussia, or the French to firmly incorporate, once and for all, Alsace-Lorraine from ever attacking Germans. Isreali were fools to even give up land acquired after Israel's victory in the Six-Day War.

It's really simple craig - you don't want ot lose land stop attacking. You want peace stop attacking. Until then Palestinians and other attackers lot will get worse and worse.

 

[kylebisme]

Yeah right and Germany has a moral right to demand the return of Alsace-Lorraine and Aldo Adige back.

Germany gave up those territories though treaty with the existing population getting French an Italian citizenship respectively, while Israel is colonizing the West Bank by force and denying the existing population there civil rights.

They are only 'illegal' because anti-semitic UN does not afford the same rules of warfare and postwar settlement to the Jews.

The vast majority of the world attempts to apply the same rules to Israel as everyone else though the UN, in the hopes of bringing a peaceful resolution to the conflict.

It's really simple craig - you don't want ot lose land stop attacking.

You are putting the cart in front of the horse here. Zionists emigrated to the region with the intention of taking the land, and have been exploiting violent response of those who are being robbed of their land as an excuse to continue taking more land.

Granted, considering your constantly demonstrated hatred of Arabs I don't expect of that to effect your position here, but I wanted to put those facts out there for those who aren't predisposed by such bigotry.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Germany gave up those territories though treaty with the existing population getting French an Italian citizenship respectively, while Israel is colonizing the West Bank by force and denying the existing population there civil rights.


The vast majority of the world attempts to apply the same rules to Israel as everyone else though the UN, in the hopes of bringing a peaceful resolution to the conflict.


You are putting the cart in front of the horse here. Zionists emigrated to the region with the intention of taking the land, and have been exploiting violent response of those who are being robbed of their land as an excuse to continue taking more land.

Granted, considering your constantly demonstrated hatred of Arabs I don't expect of that to effect your position here, but I wanted to put those facts out there for those who aren't predisposed by such bigotry.

let me get this right...this is the same Kylebisme who started the WTC7 thread and was subsequently caught using somebody elses math to attempt to prove his point..only to get caugfht in a lie...

This is the same Kylebisme who beleives that everything that happens in ther middle east is israel`s fault??

This is the palestinian sympathizer Kylebisme???

and finally this statement is not even remotely true-- The vast majority of the world attempts to apply the same rules to Israel as everyone else though the UN, in the hopes of bringing a peaceful resolution to the conflict.

 

[kylebisme]

let me get this right...this is the same Kylebisme who started the WTC7 thread...

This part is true.

...and was subsequently caught using somebody elses math to attempt to prove his point..only to get caugfht in a lie...

You are the one who is lying here, repeating TLC's lie.

This is the same Kylebisme who beleives that everything that happens in ther middle east is israel`s fault??

And you are lying here too.

This is the palestinian sympathizer Kylebisme???

I sympathize with the millions of Palestinians who Israel is robbing of their homeland regardless of if they engage in violent resistance or otherwise, while you obviously are too much of a bigot to do anything of the sort.

and finally this statement is not even remotely true-- The vast majority of the world attempts to apply the same rules to Israel as everyone else though the UN, in the hopes of bringing a peaceful resolution to the conflict.

It is the truth, as documented in detail here.

 

[JEDIYoda]

This part is true.


You are the one who is lying here, repeating TLC's lie.


And you are lying here too.


I sympathize with the millions of Palestinians who Israel is robbing of their homeland regardless of if they engage in violent resistance or otherwise, while you obviously are too much of a bigot to do anything of the sort.


It is the truth, as documented in detail here.

hahaha you freaking goofball of course it`s documented there..hahaha...rofl...lol......and there is also a little disclaimer at the bottom of the page --
This web site is maintained by the Division for Palestinian Rights

hardly a biased site...lolololl

 

[wwswimming]

hahaha you freaking goofball of course it`s documented there..hahaha...rofl...lol......and there is also a little disclaimer at the bottom of the page --
This web site is maintained by the Division for Palestinian Rights

hardly a biased site...lolololl

by that criteria, all Jewish survivors of German concentration camps should be disregarded, because they are biased.

http://www.palestineremembered.com/

/\ survivors of the Palestinian Nakba speak out about Israel's destruction of 400 Palestinian villages in 1948.

they're as biased as ... Jewish survivors of German concentration camps.

 

[Moonbeam]

OK, for those of you interested in things of this kind let me give you a general overview.

People are put down if they are different and Jews are a minority people and a minority religion. For historical reasons they were forced into businesses that earn them wealth and naturally envy and contempt.

Once a prejudice becomes established in a population, it is hard to uproot and can go on for centuries and more.

The reason that people create people to hold in contempt is because they will not feel their own self contempt. They were put down as children, perhaps called a Jew, and thus acquire self hate which is promptly submerged into the unconscious. A child has to bury the memories because to consciously feel them all the time would get the child killed.

Now once the memories are buried there is an endless sense of loss, that life is not complete or satisfying. This is because of the psychic death we all experienced. The traumatic event is like a magnet that keeps us wanting to re-experience those ancient feelings, but we can't because to do so is just like dying. It kills the ego to discover that it is dead. This is what dying before your death in psychology or religion is all about.

The upshot of this mentally illness is that we constantly strive to create what we fear, to recreate and relive traumatic events, but never in a way that connects them to memory.

For example, we were made to feel abandoned and unloved as children so we constantly seek love. When we get it the sky opens up, but then the feeling that we are worthless begins to assert itself and we begin to feel the person who loves us is a fool. We begin to test their love and all these tests are structured to fail.

So we are drawn to things and then we push them away. Why not, we are totally crazy.

So this is just exactly the situation with folk who hate themselves and for those who are also of a class or race that is additionally discriminated against, the feeling is that I am worthless because I am an untouchable or a Jew or Black etc. It doesn't really matter, but the person himself, in his need to explain his feelings of hate as anything but what they are, hate of the self, he thinks it's because he is a member of a prejudiced class etc that is the source of his trouble.

He says being a Jew doesn't make me evil. So true, but hating yourself and not knowing it does make you evil. So he sets out on one of alternate paths. Some Jews become very wise because they are not a part of the main culture and do not hold the central bias of that culture.

They can see right through the illusions others hold and are not blocked by the stupid beliefs such ideas may impose. They may transcend racism, seeing the stupid beliefs of others for what they are.

Or he may go on the attack and try to right wrongs committed against Jews. He demands respect. But his self hate will still assert itself and while demanding to be respected he will act in a way that is guaranteed not to produce it. Jews can be called pushy, or over zealous etc. This is how the Jew sabotages himself so he can feel how bad he feels.

It is what we all do in one way or another all the time. We want love and we act in a way guaranteed to generate hate.

We are all the same. We are all perfect. There is nothing to do and nothing to attain. All one needs to do is die to the false self and that will open the door to being. All our longing and all our pain comes from the fact that once long ago we were perfect and had it taken away.

 

[Zebo]

Like I said old habits die hard.