Anti private l2 server

[Bushman5]

I had posted up a ad for a few vacancies and a few ignorant people decided to spam the moderator a bunch of illfacted messages, while it dosent matter it was removed or not, ( if i was a moderator and i knew little on the topic i would have done the same thing. ) id like to step back up and defend the work people like me and l2j do.




My server does not violate any intellectual property rights.

It does not advocate or encourage any 1 to violate any such rights either. NC SOFT provides their client to the public FREE, providing the users do not alter the client, and they dont not try to sell or make a profit off the use of their software.

The software i use is also FREE under the GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE Version 2, June 1991.
If u are unaware of wat the GPl contains u can look it up on the net.

I do not charge to connect to my servers.
I also do not alter their software in any way, i dont even host their software. all user who wish to use my servers must get a copy of the game directly from nc soft.
I as well do not make any type of money from this.

If u read nc soft eual u will see i have not broken any property rights.
Nc soft so far has no lawsuites against any 1 doing wat i do as it is in no violation. This is why their are hundreds of servers who do the same thing as i do.


Id like 1 sencible person to point out, or copy and paste a section of nc soft EULA that says im violating any of their property rights. Infact i challenge any 1 to show me. ill even put up a reward of 100 USD to any 1 who can prove im breaking some type of law, or breaking some EULA any where.

Lets seperate trolls from serious posters.

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Last warning. Stop posting about your server, or stop posting entirely. If you cannot accept the first option, we can and will enforce the second one.

AnandTech Moderator

 

[SLCentral]

WTF are you talking about?

 

[Runes911]

Originally posted by: SLCentral
WTF are you talking about?

 

[ModeEngage]

The OP had a post earlier in the day looking for admins/webdesigners/quest designers for his private lineage 2 server. Apparently his thread was deleted because the moderators thought/think it's illegal.

I believe.

 

[Bushman5]

I had advertised positions available for people who wanted to work on a lineage 12 private server team.

and 2 trolls came along and started doing their troll thing and spammed the mederator with fictional stuff to get the post removed. soid like bring up that topic again.

 

[akubi]

http://www.lineage2.com/legal/rules.html

19. You will not attempt to play Lineage II on any server that is not controlled or authorized by NC Interactive or its designees.
20. You will not create, use, or provide any server emulator or other site where Lineage II may be played, and you will not post or distribute any utilities, emulators or other software tools related to Lineage II without the express written permission of NC Interactive.

you can paypal me the 100 bucks. pm me for address, thanks.

 

[SLCentral]

OP, here's a tip. People will take you much more seriously if you learn how to type.

 

[jonessoda]

Originally posted by: Bushman5
Nc soft so far has no lawsuites against any 1 doing wat i do as it is in no violation.

OMG no1 lawsuite yuo?

 

[mcvickj]

Originally posted by: Bushman5
I had posted up a ad for a few vacancies and a few ignorant people decided to spam the moderator a bunch of illfacted messages, while it dosent matter it was removed or not, ( if i was a moderator and i knew little on the topic i would have done the same thing. ) id like to step back up and defend the work people like me and l2j do.




My server does not violate any intellectual property rights.

It does not advocate or encourage any 1 to violate any such rights either. NC SOFT provides their client to the public FREE, providing the users do not alter the client, and they dont not try to sell or make a profit off the use of their software.

The software i use is also FREE under the GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE Version 2, June 1991.
If u are unaware of wat the GPl contains u can look it up on the net.

I do not charge to connect to my servers.
I also do not alter their software in any way, i dont even host their software. all user who wish to use my servers must get a copy of the game directly from nc soft.
I as well do not make any type of money from this.

If u read nc soft eual u will see i have not broken any property rights.
Nc soft so far has no lawsuites against any 1 doing wat i do as it is in no violation. This is why their are hundreds of servers who do the same thing as i do.


Id like 1 sencible person to point out, or copy and paste a section of nc soft EULA that says im violating any of their property rights. Infact i challenge any 1 to show me. ill even put up a reward of 100 USD to any 1 who can prove im breaking some type of law, or breaking some EULA any where.

Lets seperate trolls from serious posters.

Several people did and you continued to play dumb.

 

[Bushman5]

Originally posted by: akubi
http://www.lineage2.com/legal/rules.html

19. You will not attempt to play Lineage II on any server that is not controlled or authorized by NC Interactive or its designees.
20. You will not create, use, or provide any server emulator or other site where Lineage II may be played, and you will not post or distribute any utilities, emulators or other software tools related to Lineage II without the express written permission of NC Interactive.

you can paypal me the 100 bucks. pm me for address, thanks.

Explain to me how u can provide a piece of software free of charge and then claim to dictate how the user uses it.

also where have i broken this illegal attempt restrict a users free will

 

[SLCentral]

Originally posted by: Bushman5

Originally posted by: akubi
http://www.lineage2.com/legal/rules.html

19. You will not attempt to play Lineage II on any server that is not controlled or authorized by NC Interactive or its designees.
20. You will not create, use, or provide any server emulator or other site where Lineage II may be played, and you will not post or distribute any utilities, emulators or other software tools related to Lineage II without the express written permission of NC Interactive.

you can paypal me the 100 bucks. pm me for address, thanks.

Explain to me how u can provide a piece of software free of charge and then claim to dictate how the user uses it.

also where have i broke this so called illegal attempt restric a users free will

Um, for example, if you get a free demo disk of a game in a magazine, it specifically says you cannot distribute/sell it. Took about 3 seconds to think of an example.

 

[Bushman5]

no that is not dictating how a person uses the software within his computer.

 

[Bushman5]

Originally posted by: akubi
http://www.lineage2.com/legal/rules.html

19. You will not attempt to play Lineage II on any server that is not controlled or authorized by NC Interactive or its designees.
20. You will not create, use, or provide any server emulator or other site where Lineage II may be played, and you will not post or distribute any utilities, emulators or other software tools related to Lineage II without the express written permission of NC Interactive.

you can paypal me the 100 bucks. pm me for address, thanks.

I never agreeded to that lol.

Seriously though the closest that comes to a aggrement is a TOS for owning a account to access their servers.
We are not refering to owning or even accessing their servers.

We are refering to the EULA u agree to before u download their software.
which is here EUAL

 

[akubi]

it's ok kid, i already knew you didn't have hundred bucks, much less twenty bucks to your name.
think of it as a free lesson.

bye

 

[ViviTheMage]

you should pm a mod.

this will get you another lock/deletion.

 

[jonessoda]

Originally posted by: Bushman5
Explain to me how u can provide a piece of software free of charge and then claim to dictate how the user uses it.

It's simple. It's their copyright, and they have chosen to place it under a licensing system that allows free distribution but which is explicitly not a GNU or other general public use license; rather, its terms of service require that you obey certain rules in order to be allowed to use it.

also where have i broken this illegal attempt restrict a users free will

19. You will not attempt to play Lineage II on any server that is not controlled or authorized by NC Interactive or its designees.
20. You will not create, use, or provide any server emulator or other site where Lineage II may be played, and you will not post or distribute any utilities, emulators or other software tools related to Lineage II without the express written permission of NC Interactive.

Is your server controlled or authorized by NC Interactive or its designees? If not, all your players are violating section 19 of the rules of conduct of Lineage Interactive.

Further, if it is not controlled or authorized by NC Interactive or its designees, you yourself are in violation of section 20.

You've stated:

Originally posted by: Bushman5
Id like 1 sencible person to point out, or copy and paste a section of nc soft EULA that says im violating any of their property rights. Infact i challenge any 1 to show me. ill even put up a reward of 100 USD to any 1 who can prove im breaking some type of law, or breaking some EULA any where.

Your challenge was accepted and met by akubi. The NC Soft Rules of Conduct explicitly forbid what you are doing, and akubi posted that. I call for you to prove your honor: either paypal him the $100 since he met your challenge, or leave this place and never return.

Edit:
Fine. EULA only? Fine.

As per Section 7 of their End User License Agreement:

7. OFFICIAL SERVICE NC Interactive has designed Lineage II for play only as offered by NC Interactive at the Web Site. You agree to play Lineage II only as offered by NC Interactive at the Web Site and not through any other means. You agree not to use any hardware or software, including but not limited to third party tools, or any other method of support which may in any way influence or advantage your use of the Service which is not authorized by NC Interactive, including but not limited to the use of ?bots? and/or any other method by which the Service may be played automatically without human input. You further agree not to create or provide any other means through which Lineage II may be played by others, as through server emulators. You acknowledge that you do not have the right to create, publish, distribute, create derivative works from or use any software programs, utilities, applications, emulators or tools derived from or created for Lineage II, except that you may use the Software to the extent expressly permitted by this Agreement. You may not take any action which imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on our infrastructure. You may not sell or auction any Lineage II accounts, characters, items, coin or copyrighted material.

"You further agree not to create or provide any other means through which Lineage II may be played by others, as through server emulators." Your server is emulating their servers, thus, you are in violation of their EULA.

You've lost. If you have any honor in you, you will pay those who have provided sections of their rules of conduct and their licensing agreements that prove you are in violation. PM me for my Paypal, I could use $100.

 

[Bushman5]

In the above example, if you are a subscriber to their service and they some how find out your playing on a private server they would ban your account without refund. That is within their legal rights.

 

[SLCentral]

Originally posted by: Bushman5

Originally posted by: akubi
http://www.lineage2.com/legal/rules.html

19. You will not attempt to play Lineage II on any server that is not controlled or authorized by NC Interactive or its designees.
20. You will not create, use, or provide any server emulator or other site where Lineage II may be played, and you will not post or distribute any utilities, emulators or other software tools related to Lineage II without the express written permission of NC Interactive.

you can paypal me the 100 bucks. pm me for address, thanks.

I never agreeded to that lol.

Seriously though the closest that comes to a aggrement is a TOS for owning a account to access their servers.
We are not refering to owning or even accessing their servers.

We are refering to the EULA u agree to before u download their software.
which is here EUAL

Just curious OP, how old are you?

 

[ViviTheMage]

Originally posted by: Bushman5
I had posted up a ad for a few vacancies and a few ignorant people decided to spam the moderator a bunch of illfacted messages, while it dosent matter it was removed or not, ( if i was a moderator and i knew little on the topic i would have done the same thing. ) id like to step back up and defend the work people like me and l2j do.




My server does not violate any intellectual property rights.

It does not advocate or encourage any 1 to violate any such rights either. NC SOFT provides their client to the public FREE, providing the users do not alter the client, and they dont not try to sell or make a profit off the use of their software.

The software i use is also FREE under the GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE Version 2, June 1991.
If u are unaware of wat the GPl contains u can look it up on the net.

I do not charge to connect to my servers.
I also do not alter their software in any way, i dont even host their software. all user who wish to use my servers must get a copy of the game directly from nc soft.
I as well do not make any type of money from this.

If u read nc soft eual u will see i have not broken any property rights.
Nc soft so far has no lawsuites against any 1 doing wat i do as it is in no violation. This is why their are hundreds of servers who do the same thing as i do.


Id like 1 sencible person to point out, or copy and paste a section of nc soft EULA that says im violating any of their property rights. Infact i challenge any 1 to show me. ill even put up a reward of 100 USD to any 1 who can prove im breaking some type of law, or breaking some EULA any where.

Lets seperate trolls from serious posters.

you said it right there, you have to get it from NCsoft, yet the player will be using your server.

this doesnt work on and legal standpoint and your english is bad!!

 

[CollectiveUnconscious]

Originally posted by: Bushman5

Originally posted by: akubi
http://www.lineage2.com/legal/rules.html

19. You will not attempt to play Lineage II on any server that is not controlled or authorized by NC Interactive or its designees.
20. You will not create, use, or provide any server emulator or other site where Lineage II may be played, and you will not post or distribute any utilities, emulators or other software tools related to Lineage II without the express written permission of NC Interactive.

you can paypal me the 100 bucks. pm me for address, thanks.

Explain to me how u can provide a piece of software free of charge and then claim to dictate how the user uses it.

also where have i broken this illegal attempt restrict a users free will

It's their game, they created it, they chose to provide the client for free. However, as a stipulation for this free client, they created rules which the user must abide by, as it is not the user's client, but NC Interactive. You owe $100 to akubi per your statement. Stop trying to wiggle out of it by spewing this garbage about free will.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Originally posted by: akubi
http://www.lineage2.com/legal/rules.html

19. You will not attempt to play Lineage II on any server that is not controlled or authorized by NC Interactive or its designees.
20. You will not create, use, or provide any server emulator or other site where Lineage II may be played, and you will not post or distribute any utilities, emulators or other software tools related to Lineage II without the express written permission of NC Interactive.
you can paypal me the 100 bucks. pm me for address, thanks.

If you say the user needs to have the NCSoft version, then you are violating this.

paypal : dsrdar@mn.rr.com

ill be waiting for the 100$ reward!!

 

[Bushman5]

Originally posted by: Bushman5

Originally posted by: akubi
http://www.lineage2.com/legal/rules.html

19. You will not attempt to play Lineage II on any server that is not controlled or authorized by NC Interactive or its designees.
20. You will not create, use, or provide any server emulator or other site where Lineage II may be played, and you will not post or distribute any utilities, emulators or other software tools related to Lineage II without the express written permission of NC Interactive.

you can paypal me the 100 bucks. pm me for address, thanks.

I never agreeded to that lol.

Seriously though the closest that comes to a aggrement is a TOS for owning a account to access their servers.
We are not refering to owning or even accessing their servers.

We are refering to the EULA u agree to before u download their software.
which is here EUAL

see that little link their.

That is the EUAL for downloading and Using their software. if any user who uses my server breaks any property laws, it is in their.

 

[mflacy]

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage

Originally posted by: Bushman5
I had posted up a ad for a few vacancies and a few ignorant people decided to spam the moderator a bunch of illfacted messages, while it dosent matter it was removed or not, ( if i was a moderator and i knew little on the topic i would have done the same thing. ) id like to step back up and defend the work people like me and l2j do.




My server does not violate any intellectual property rights.

It does not advocate or encourage any 1 to violate any such rights either. NC SOFT provides their client to the public FREE, providing the users do not alter the client, and they dont not try to sell or make a profit off the use of their software.

The software i use is also FREE under the GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE Version 2, June 1991.
If u are unaware of wat the GPl contains u can look it up on the net.

I do not charge to connect to my servers.
I also do not alter their software in any way, i dont even host their software. all user who wish to use my servers must get a copy of the game directly from nc soft.
I as well do not make any type of money from this.

If u read nc soft eual u will see i have not broken any property rights.
Nc soft so far has no lawsuites against any 1 doing wat i do as it is in no violation. This is why their are hundreds of servers who do the same thing as i do.


Id like 1 sencible person to point out, or copy and paste a section of nc soft EULA that says im violating any of their property rights. Infact i challenge any 1 to show me. ill even put up a reward of 100 USD to any 1 who can prove im breaking some type of law, or breaking some EULA any where.

Lets seperate trolls from serious posters.

you said it right there, you have to get it from NCsoft, yet the player will be using your server.

this doesnt work on and legal standpoint and your english is bad!!

Oh the irony...

 

[pontifex]

you obviously don't understand the EULA.
When you install the game, you agree not to break this EULA or the game doesn't install. SO therefore, if you installed it and play it, you agreed to not break it.

You are breaking the EULA.

 

[imported_Phil]

Hi, do you speak English?