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"Anti-Piracy Remix"

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Alex

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this just in!

cliff notes:
2 programmers found a way to insert a voice command saying "This song is pirated" or whatever into mp3s without compromising quality, and they think this will hinder or even stop piracy...lol

its an interesting idea but i dont really have any faith... :roll:

-frang
 
Originally posted by: franguinho
its an interesting idea but i dont really have any faith... :roll:
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"... a software decoder, which could be built into MP3 players or file-sharing applications, detects the phase shifts and turns them into speech."

That'll happen when me sh*t turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet. 😛

- M4H
 
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
So you'd have to download the decoder in order for the message to play?
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lol i hope not... actually i dont care cause its not gonna stop me 😛 (jk!... or not)

im not actually sure as to the nuances of how it will work... maybe someoen else can clarify?
 
Originally posted by: franguinho
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
So you'd have to download the decoder in order for the message to play?
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lol i hope not... actually i dont care cause its not gonna stop me 😛 (jk!... or not)

im not actually sure as to the nuances of how it will work... maybe someoen else can clarify?
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If i'm understanding this correctly and I remember my wave physics (two big ifs), they're taking the sound waves and moving them ever-so-slightly so that they 'line up' (or not line up) at certain predetermined times in the song, probably through adjusting wave nodes to coincide. Then, based on which points are lined up and which aren't, a seperate piece of software can decipher a message from it. Because humans only detect the frequency of sound and not where each actual node is, the change in sound would be imperceptible.

I don't foresee MP3 players adopting software add-ons to catch pirates though, making this whole idea moot anyway. It is a cool trick though... imagine being able to encrypt and hide files in your digital music collection. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Originally posted by: franguinho
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
So you'd have to download the decoder in order for the message to play?
Click to expand...

lol i hope not... actually i dont care cause its not gonna stop me 😛 (jk!... or not)

im not actually sure as to the nuances of how it will work... maybe someoen else can clarify?
Click to expand...

If i'm understanding this correctly and I remember my wave physics (two big ifs), they're taking the sound waves and moving them ever-so-slightly so that they 'line up' (or not line up) at certain predetermined times in the song, probably through adjusting wave nodes to coincide. Then, based on which points are lined up and which aren't, a seperate piece of software can decipher a message from it. Because humans only detect the frequency of sound and not where each actual node is, the change in sound would be imperceptible.

I don't foresee MP3 players adopting software add-ons to catch pirates though, making this whole idea moot anyway. It is a cool trick though... imagine being able to encrypt and hide files in your digital music collection. 🙂
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That's a cool idea.
 
Not gonna happen unless Microsoft, AOL/Nullsoft, and/or Apple buy into this technology and implement it.

Wouldn't it have to be encoded with the message in there beforehand? I doubt any scene-releasers will every adapt that into their LAME encodings. Also, I'm pretty dang sure they would just edit/hack the encoder to not implement the bits.
 
Originally posted by: Anonemous
Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Originally posted by: franguinho
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
So you'd have to download the decoder in order for the message to play?
Click to expand...

lol i hope not... actually i dont care cause its not gonna stop me 😛 (jk!... or not)

im not actually sure as to the nuances of how it will work... maybe someoen else can clarify?
Click to expand...

If i'm understanding this correctly and I remember my wave physics (two big ifs), they're taking the sound waves and moving them ever-so-slightly so that they 'line up' (or not line up) at certain predetermined times in the song, probably through adjusting wave nodes to coincide. Then, based on which points are lined up and which aren't, a seperate piece of software can decipher a message from it. Because humans only detect the frequency of sound and not where each actual node is, the change in sound would be imperceptible.

I don't foresee MP3 players adopting software add-ons to catch pirates though, making this whole idea moot anyway. It is a cool trick though... imagine being able to encrypt and hide files in your digital music collection. 🙂
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That's a cool idea.
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yeah and an awesome explanation! thanks! 🙂

but yeah like everyone else said i doubt this will take off unless the major players in the industry adopt it and even if they did, media players and portable player manufacturers would prolly have to incorporate it into their software (unlikely)

also, just as easily as this mesage could be inserted into a song, couldn't it theoretically be removed?
 
Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix

I don't foresee MP3 players adopting software add-ons to catch pirates though, making this whole idea moot anyway.
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That's the whole key right there. MP3 players are used by pirates and the manufacturers know it. Why on earth would any one of them intentionally make their players less attractive to their target consumer? C'mon, it'd be like beer brewers adding something to the can to make overweight guys sick or ATOT making the forums unreadable by 13 year old virgin-for-life losers.
 
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