anti cd piracy software?

[Crappopotamus]

i want to make a cd that wont be able to be easily pirated. is there a simple way to do this? it doesnt have to be totally unbreakable or anything. just something to foil the most rudimentry cd copy.

we're getting this professionally pressed... would these companies have something for this?

thanks.

 

[Sid59]

lol .. if you figure it out, sell it to the companies who are trying to thwart piracy,.

 

[Crappopotamus]

well they have stuff out now. on games and such. it can be cracked, but you cant use nero to copy it straight over you know? we just need to prevent really stupid people.

 

[DannyBoy]

yeah and these technologies cost a lot of money to incorporate into your cd's, hence why there are specialist companies that deal with this

C-Dilla had a lot of play in Microsofts Flight Sim (at the time flight sim 2k came out it was almost impossible to copy, for a few weeks...)

 

[glugglug]

Put a bogus volume size so when copying it tries to read past the end of the CD.

Put a garbage file or 2 with block numbers past the end of the disk in the ISO as well.

 

[NicColt]

Just to add some irony here.... Apparently the DVD XCOPY Gold hasn't been cracked yet and it's a software that copy's DVD's. Whatever they are using or doing, (not that I'm into that) it seems to be working.

 

[Nothinman]

DVD XCopy isn't circumventing any protection schemes.

 

[alm4rr]

if you do, we can partner together - I can hook us up

 

[Twista]

i think MS would be using something like this if it truly worked ;p imo! Everything can be found online so gl ;p

 

[Crappopotamus]

Originally posted by: glugglug
Put a bogus volume size so when copying it tries to read past the end of the CD.

Put a garbage file or 2 with block numbers past the end of the disk in the ISO as well.

woah. come again? how do i do this?

i was talking to the company that will do our cds. safedisk protection is some rediculous price.

 

[GhettoFob]

Make them call you up to activate the cd.

 

[Nothinman]

Make them call you up to activate the cd.

That's just frustrating on the customer and a lot of work on both ends. We used some software that required a license that was tied to the MAC address on the PC and the only reason was kept it was because the developers thought it was worth the hassel. Luckily Borland bought that company and dropped the node-locked licensing.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: Nothinman
DVD XCopy isn't circumventing any protection schemes.

Hello? It's used to copy DVD's. The only way to copy a DVD is to break the CSS protection on DVD's.

 

[Nothinman]

Hello? It's used to copy DVD's. The only way to copy a DVD is to break the CSS protection on DVD's.

Not if they license a key properly, if they hadn't I'm sure they would have been sued atleast once by now.

 

[stevewm]

Originally posted by: Crappopotamus

Originally posted by: glugglug
Put a bogus volume size so when copying it tries to read past the end of the CD.

Put a garbage file or 2 with block numbers past the end of the disk in the ISO as well.

woah. come again? how do i do this?

i was talking to the company that will do our cds. safedisk protection is some rediculous price.

All copy protection tricks can be broken easily. Even expensive ones like SafeDisc. There are MANY programs out there. Alcohol 120% is one I can think of. Put any "copy protected" disc in, click Copy. Thats all there is to it.

If the disc can be read, it can be copied. The only way to prevent the disc from being copied is not to release it in the first place. This is true with ANY media.

 

[elkinm]

Would it be possible to use something on the lines of SecuROM to make CDs, or are general copy protection methods hardware based (meaning some part of the disk is written or damaged that cannot be done with a standard burner)

Although I don't like such methods as I always want to make a backup, but this is a very good question.

 

[NicColt]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

Hello? It's used to copy DVD's. The only way to copy a DVD is to break the CSS protection on DVD's.

Not if they license a key properly, if they hadn't I'm sure they would have been sued atleast once by now.

From what I understand of it and I can be wrong is that when you load it up it asks if the DVD is a rental or if your own it. If you choose rental then it says something like the fact that you can't do that, but if you choose you own it, it will make a perfect image of the DVD along with the CSS protection. You only need to break the CSS protection when you rip it not when you make an image of it.

I was reading up a little on it and they are saying that you have a personal right to make a backup of your DVD's and that they put that stupid question of a rental or not just to cover themselves. So far they havent been sued.

 

[EeyoreX]

Not if they license a key properly, if they hadn't I'm sure they would have been sued atleast once by nowNot if they license a key properly, if they hadn't I'm sure they would have been sued atleast once by now

I was reading up a little on it and they are saying that you have a personal right to make a backup of your DVD's and that they put that stupid question of a rental or not just to cover themselves. So far they havent been sued.

Uhm, the makers of DVD XCopy (321 Studios) are, in fact, involved in a lawsuit. I mean, look at the homepage, there is a top-level navigational item "The Lawsuit". (Short version: 321 Studios pre-emtively suied nine major motion-picture companies after being threatend with a DMCA lawsuit by said companies. 321 Studios is sueing based on free use and free speech. The movie studios recently filed a counter-suit, citing DMCA.)

\Dan

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[Nothinman]

"The company claims that DVD X Copy doesn't actually break the CSS on commercial DVDs. Instead, the program intercepts the video and audio stream after a DVD player has decrypted the disc's CSS code in order to show the movie. Because the program intercepts the signal after decryption but before the video is rendered, it doesn't run afoul of the DMCA, according to 321 Studios' Sedlock."

From what I understand of it and I can be wrong is that when you load it up it asks if the DVD is a rental or if your own it. If you choose rental then it says something like the fact that you can't do that, but if you choose you own it, it will make a perfect image of the DVD along with the CSS protection.

That's just the cover their ass tactic, they have to say they made due diligence to keep the users legal, if the user decided to copy something he doesn't own it's not the fault of 321 Studios. And none of their products burn copies with CSS, they don't have a license to use CSS in that manor.

You only need to break the CSS protection when you rip it not when you make an image of it.

And 99% of the DVD movies out there need to be ripped because they're larger than the 4.7G consumer discs available, you need to be able to discard all the features you don't care about like the other language streams, subtitles, etc to make it fit on 1 disc. You can span it across discs, but then you have to change discs half-way through which sucks.