anti-American president strikes a few more times...

Zebo

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Bush Ignores Soldiers' Burials

Violates freedom of press again
Back in Washington, the Pentagon has banned photographs of the arriving coffins of U.S. dead. In Iraq, at the site of the helicopter shootdown, American troops tried to confiscate news photographers' digital camera disks. No matter: The picture from Iraq, day by day, will grow sharp and clear.

<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1067728207768&call_pageid=1038394944805&col=1038394944443">Bush team doesn't want people to see human cost of war
Even body bags are now sanitized as `transfer tubes'
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Crimson

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And if he allowed pictures to be plastered all over the media you'd be saying he's not protecting the rights of the familes or respecting the dead. Either way, you would somehow use it against him.

Not allowing pictures seems respectful to the families if you asked me. Everyone knows people are dying there, its no secret.
 

CaptnKirk

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On the news tonight they showed the flag draped casket of a Firefighter that gave his all in the fires above San Diego.
Solem procession, Honor Guard, Pall Bearers, Quite a dignified ceremony.

Then I wondered why this Administration won't suffer the equally dignified procedure for the world to bear witness to
for those who gave all for the Nation, in our Foriegn War upon thier return to thier native land.

Must not be a thing for him to be proud of, if he can so easily turn his back on them.
 

DealMonkey

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If I died in combat, I'd damn sure want everyone to know that I made the ultimate sacrifice for my country. The administration/pentagon hiding the injured and killed in action in Iraq does those men a disservice IMO.
 

earthman

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There should be a simple test: anybody who gets DWI's can't be president.
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: earthman
There should be a simple test: anybody who gets DWI's can't be president.





That's a little harsh; how about only really serious offenses like desertion. Or maybe narcotic abuse.

 

Wheezer

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ummm I hate to break this to you but this has been in effect since Clinton was president. So it's nothing new.
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: Wheezer
ummm I hate to break this to you but this has been in effect since Clinton was president. So it's nothing new.

Hmm, I could very well be wrong but I think I read where this has been on the books for a while but has just recently(Bush) been enforced. Again, I wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong.

 

Wheezer

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Wheezer
ummm I hate to break this to you but this has been in effect since Clinton was president. So it's nothing new.

Hmm, I could very well be wrong but I think I read where this has been on the books for a while but has just recently(Bush) been enforced. Again, I wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong.

yes that is true...if I can find the link again I will post it.

With the press the way it is today anyway it's not like this is going to change anything. The only reason they are making it a big deal now is because they can't do it. If the ban was not in effect then they would be there for the first few but after a while they would see that it is not "newsworthy" in thier eyes and move on to something else. For the mainstream press to jump up and down and cry foul because they can't get pics of our dead military is reall pathetic, because honestly they don't really care about the dead unless it brings in ratings.

Besides the rest of you who are crying about this are just as bad. The fact is that you really don't care if you see this or not, you would probably just keep flipping your channels to get to the shows you really want to see. but hey wtf it's just another way for you to bash the pres right???
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: friedpie
Bush Bashing Thread No. 2103
YABA reply No. 4,837,229,074

Sorry, it's my country too. We have a constitutional right to express our concerns and disagreement with any public officials. Don't like it, give Comrade Crimson a call, see if he can set you up with a more suitable country.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: drewshin
yeah bush, just shove em under a rug, at least until next november.
If this last week is any indication, we're going to need a bigger rug. :(
 

Wheezer

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: friedpie
Bush Bashing Thread No. 2103
YABA reply No. 4,837,229,074

Sorry, it's my country too. We have a constitutional right to express our concerns and disagreement with any public officials. Don't like it, give Comrade Crimson a call, see if he can set you up with a more suitable country.


so at what point did he say you did not have a constitutional right to voice your opinion? Did I miss something here?

You can speak as freely as you like just remember it goes both ways.


 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: Wheezer
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: friedpie
Bush Bashing Thread No. 2103
YABA reply No. 4,837,229,074

Sorry, it's my country too. We have a constitutional right to express our concerns and disagreement with any public officials. Don't like it, give Comrade Crimson a call, see if he can set you up with a more suitable country.
so at what point did he say you did not have a constitutional right to voice your opinion? Did I miss something here?
He didn't -- directly. However, our esteemed Commander in Chief has taught me well. I made a unilateral preemptive move because I knew where he was going if left unchallenged. These are facts, not assertions. It also served as a warning to other YABAs that we will not tolerate terrorism ... err, supression of freedom of speech.

I'm sure you agree this is a proper and reasonable response to an imminent threat. I made this forum a safer place. Mission accomplished!



;)
 

DoubleL

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Hmm, I could very well be wrong but I think I read where this has been on the books for a while but has just recently(Bush) been enforced. Again, I wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong.

You are wrong, It is for the families of the dead, Bush has nothing to do with it,
 

GrGr

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Hey maybe you are right, DoubleL. If somebody in my family got killed and the guy responsible for it showed up I'm not sure what I'd do. Maybe Bush is afraid somebody's big brother is going to take a swipe at him. Now that wouldn't be good PR would it?
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: DoubleL
Hmm, I could very well be wrong but I think I read where this has been on the books for a while but has just recently(Bush) been enforced. Again, I wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong.

You are wrong, It is for the families of the dead, Bush has nothing to do with it,


link

 

DoubleL

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No GrGr lets see if you can understand this, When someone loses a son or husband in war they get very upset so they passed a law that bannes the photographs of the coffins of US service men coming back to the states, The news don't like it but it is the right thing to do
 

Doboji

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you guys are just chomping at the bit to criticize Bush... you really want every coffin of every soldier who dies in Iraq to be paraded in front of us, and dramatized by the already over dramatic ratings hungry media? Why don't we just preserve their dead bodies, and put them on display in DC so we can permanently destroy our morale.

If you thought this through rationally, you would side with Bush on this issue, regardless of his Alcohol history, which has about as much to do with Iraq, as Monica Lewinsky had to do with Kosovo. That is nothing at all. Hypocrits. You just hate Bush... blindly brainwashed fools that you are. Why not try actually thinking about the issues one at a time, from a critical perspective. If you disagree with Bush 100% of the time... you're not thinking... Bush isn't wrong about EVERYTHING... that would be statistically impossible.

Hypocrits.

-Max
 

Gaard

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DoubleL - "Sorry about saying you were wrong Gaard."

Gaard - "No problem."




 

nutxo

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Originally posted by: Wheezer
ummm I hate to break this to you but this has been in effect since Clinton was president. So it's nothing new.

Try Viet nam, when Kennedy was president.

 

GrGr

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Originally posted by: DoubleL
No GrGr lets see if you can understand this, When someone loses a son or husband in war they get very upset so they passed a law that bannes the photographs of the coffins of US service men coming back to the states, The news don't like it but it is the right thing to do

Let's see if you can understand this. I was talking about Bush ("the guy responsible") showing up at the funeral.