Anti-aliasing & Crysis 3...

Tinsley847

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How do I know which AA to choose for my setup?

If i'm running a AMD Radeon HD 6990, which is technically a 2 GPU card. Do I run the MGPU AA setting? Or is that only for SLI & Xfire setups?

I have been asking around without success, please help.

Thank you in advance.
 

omeds

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Which ever one gives you visuals you are happy with and decent performance.
 

Tinsley847

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Which ever one gives you visuals you are happy with and decent performance.

I don't have a 2nd LCD in order to run performance monitors. So I don't know which one is the bigger performance loss.

My main confusion lies in the multi gpu option in the AA selection choices.
 

aaksheytalwar

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A 6990 isn't powerful enuf to run AA with Crysis 3 even at 1080p. The only form you can consider is Fxaa or Mlaa.
 

njdevilsfan87

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You don't need a second LCD for performance monitoring. Most have a built in "on screen display" which will show your frame rate on top of the game.
 

Qbah

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A 6990 isn't powerful enuf to run AA with Crysis 3 even at 1080p. The only form you can consider is Fxaa or Mlaa.

BS. 2nd fastest card... I guess 3rd fastest with Titan now. Stop advising if you don't know.

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OP, as was said, if you can't "tell" by looking which one is faster / better looking, it doesn't matter. If you want to check it out, download fraps for example and see which mode gives you more frames:

http://www.fraps.com/

Small and easy to use.
 

aaksheytalwar

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BS. 2nd fastest card... I guess 3rd fastest with Titan now. Stop advising if you don't know.

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OP, as was said, if you can't "tell" by looking which one is faster / better looking, it doesn't matter. If you want to check it out, download fraps for example and see which mode gives you more frames:

http://www.fraps.com/

Small and easy to use.

Are you an idiot?

If the fastest card gets 10 fps is it playable?

Anything below 60 fps avg is unplayable for me. And AA isn't a necessity, it is a luxury.
 

Tinsley847

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Are you an idiot?

If the fastest card gets 10 fps is it playable?

Anything below 60 fps avg is unplayable for me. And AA isn't a necessity, it is a luxury.

I was hoping my $800 gpu would afford me that luxury. Apparently I need 2 6990's to run top end games with AA? Seems pretty crazy, and more so it seems disappointing...
 

FalseChristian

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If you run Crysis 3 in a lower resolution like my 1680x1050 then, yes, you can use antialiasing. Heck, even with very old GeForce GTX 460 1GB SLI I can run Crysis pretty well at 1680x1050 on HIGH with TXAA.
 

hjalti8

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I was hoping my $800 gpu would afford me that luxury. Apparently I need 2 6990's to run top end games with AA? Seems pretty crazy, and more so it seems disappointing...

why? you should be happy that all that gpu power is put to good use. Would you rather want crytek to make a game with mediocre graphics just so you could "max it" ?
 

cmdrdredd

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Those benches cannot be taken seriously if you ask me. There's little info as to where in the game they were obtained and there are many spots that make my system drop really low. Granted I'm at 2560x1440 but I could imaging 1080p being rough for a 6990.
 

PowerK

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I thought Crysis 3 did not have built-in benchmark tool. How did they benchmark the game ?
 

Tinsley847

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why? you should be happy that all that gpu power is put to good use. Would you rather want crytek to make a game with mediocre graphics just so you could "max it" ?

That wasn't my point. I'm very happy with crytek. I just didn't have any problems with AA on any game I played b4 (BF3 mostly). So I didn't know it was something that A: Kills performance & B: Is 2nd to the graphical options.

When my FPS dropped in crysis 3, I would drop all my settings from high to low meanwhile keeping AA on because I didn't know better...
 

cmdrdredd

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I thought Crysis 3 did not have built-in benchmark tool. How did they benchmark the game ?

Probably FRAPS which isn't reliable since it can vary a bit from run to run when comparing different hardware. If you just want a baseline for your own usage it's fine though.
 

f1sherman

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How do I know which AA to choose for my setup?

If i'm running a AMD Radeon HD 6990, which is technically a 2 GPU card. Do I run the MGPU AA setting? Or is that only for SLI & Xfire setups?

I have been asking around without success, please help.

Thank you in advance.

SMAA 1x, FXAA for performance

SMAA MEDIUM for best perf/IQ ratio
 

dagamer34

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Want to know the best AA you can get that costs absolutely nothing? Sit further back (or play on an HDTV). :D
 

24601

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SMAA 1x looks pretty good and is actually tolerable compared to the smeartastic blurfest that is the FXAA MLAA TXAA basket.

When rendering such high definition crisp textures, you shouldn't be immediately degrading the picture quality by using the smear filters. (Same goes for motion blur and depth of field).
 

Gryz

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Half a year ago, I discovered SMAA (via the injector that works for all games). I really like it. I now use it in all the games I play (Skyrim, Dishonored, etc). I have an nvidia card (gtx680), so I don't know how well SMAA works on AMD cards.

Crysis 3 has SMAA incorporated. I don't know how that relates to the injector version. I played a bit of Crysis 3 last night. (I am waiting for good SweetFX settings). But atm I plan on using 4xSMAA or 2xSMAA. Overall I think SMAA is currently the best AA technique (balance between image-quality and performance).

What I usually do with new games, is disable features that I don't like. E.g. I don't care for motion blur, or some other post-processing techniques. But I can't play without AA. And I've started to like SSAO in many games (even when they don't support it). It's a balancing game, enable the stuff you like, disable stuff you don't need. Crysis 3 ran (first level) at 30-40 fps (very high, 4xSMAA, motion blur disabled). That's acceptable for a single-player game for me.
 

Yuriman

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I find I lose 0fps from FXAA and ~1fps with 2x SMAA - the SMAA is my preference, it actually looks pretty good in Crysis. Other settings are unplayable on my HD7850.
 

Face2Face

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I haven't seen any performance difference going from MSAA2X to SMAA2X..? I may need to play the game some more though.
 

cmdrdredd

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I haven't seen any performance difference going from MSAA2X to SMAA2X..? I may need to play the game some more though.

At certain spots if you stand still and adjust the settings from one to the other you can see the fps change a little bit. I did this with fraps.
 

Face2Face

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At certain spots if you stand still and adjust the settings from one to the other you can see the fps change a little bit. I did this with fraps.

Was it big enough to impact play? I don't have eagle eyes, but I can see a difference between MSAA and SMAA. I played for awhile with SMAA and then switched to MSAA and noticed an IQ impact right away. I could be crazy though?
 

cmdrdredd

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Was it big enough to impact play? I don't have eagle eyes, but I can see a difference between MSAA and SMAA. I played for awhile with SMAA and then switched to MSAA and noticed an IQ impact right away. I could be crazy though?

It was in some areas. But remember I am running 2560x1440 so the impact of high AA is more pronounced for me than at 1080p. I didn't think msaa did enough to warrant the fps hit. I ended up using fxaa because the performance hit was 0 and I did not find it overly blurry. I spent a good bit of time trying to determine which AA to choose too. If I was at 1080p I would likely use 2x smaa