Antec TruePower 430W vs. Antech TruePower II 430W

[Quadriflax]

I'm a couple of days away from ordering the rest of my computer parts. The final hurdle is which PSU to purchase. Should I get the TruePower 430 or the TruePowerII 430? The TPII has duel rails, the TP has one 12v rail.

My system: A64 3200+ (venice), MSI Neo4-F, 6600GT

I don't think I need a duel rail for the 6600GT right now, but I might upgrade in a year or so and thus might benefit from the duel rail in the future. For that reason I might want the TPII. Basically, is there any reason I shouldn't get the TPII over the TP? Thanks.

 

[shoRunner]

II. its atx 2.0 as is your board

 

[TStep]

Given those two choices and only those choices, I would probably opt for the TPII. I am not a fan of the dual rail, but I believe the TPII has the 24 pin power connector and the PCI-e power connector. Those would sway my decision toward the TPII.

 

[w00t]

Topic Title: Antec TruePower 430W vs. Antech TruePower II 430W

misspelled.

 

[Cheezeit]

theres a thread somewhere that points out a huge mistake of the tp2's in the case/cooling thread. just search for it

 

[Quadriflax]

Originally posted by: w00t
Topic Title: Antec TruePower 430W vs. Antech TruePower II 430W

misspelled.

Wow, you're smart. I'm guessing you've never had a typo in your life. And FYI, that was an incomplete sentence you replied with.

Thanks everyone else, I think I'll go with the TPII. It's only a couple of bucks more, and I think even without the second rail it's probably a better choice.

 

[Cheezeit]

Originally posted by: Quadriflax

Originally posted by: w00t
Topic Title: Antec TruePower 430W vs. Antech TruePower II 430W

misspelled.

Wow, you're smart. I'm guessing you've never had a typo in your life. And FYI, that was an incomplete sentence you replied with.

Thanks everyone else, I think I'll go with the TPII. It's only a couple of bucks more, and I think even without the second rail it's probably a better choice.

quad, before you buy, read This thread. it will give the real dope, based on someones expeirience.

now granted, the tp2 is a nice psu, but there is an important engineirng flaw that would make me whink twice before getting it.

i got the fortron blue storm 500 afeter doing a bunch of reasearch

 

[w00t]

Originally posted by: Quadriflax

Originally posted by: w00t
Topic Title: Antec TruePower 430W vs. Antech TruePower II 430W

misspelled.

Wow, you're smart. I'm guessing you've never had a typo in your life. And FYI, that was an incomplete sentence you replied with.

Thanks everyone else, I think I'll go with the TPII. It's only a couple of bucks more, and I think even without the second rail it's probably a better choice.

not meaning to start a flame war here i was just telling u that u have a typo in ur title. #cry

 

[Cheezeit]

Originally posted by: w00t
Topic Title: Antec TruePower 430W vs. Antech TruePower II 430W

misspelled.

he needed help deciding, not to point out a typo. if you mentioned that and said something helpful, that would be of use.

its still readable, isn't it? we just need to know what he means

 

[w00t]

have you looked into ocz modstream 450w? its outa stock but u can know why if u check price
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104154

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: w00t
have you looked into ocz modstream 450w? its outa stock but u can know why if u check price
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104154

or he can buy it here

 

[Cheezeit]

modstreams are okay, but the cables are sometimes short for larger cases and ocz hasn't been a psu maker for long.

fortron blue storm is like 78 shipped at actbuy or something, and its gotton gread reviews and unbeatable efficiancy.

the seasonic s12 is good too don't forget to consider that is ur into silence

 

[w00t]

Originally posted by: rickn

Originally posted by: w00t
have you looked into ocz modstream 450w? its outa stock but u can know why if u check price
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104154

or he can buy it here

yep, newegg ETA: 6/17/2005

 

[Quadriflax]

Originally posted by: Cheezeit
quad, before you buy, read This thread. it will give the real dope, based on someones expeirience.

now granted, the tp2 is a nice psu, but there is an important engineirng flaw that would make me whink twice before getting it.

i got the fortron blue storm 500 afeter doing a bunch of reasearch

If I understand correctly, that thread basically says they used the wrong fan in the TPII, causing the unit to potentially over heat more than it should in a case. This could cause premature PSU failure and/or higher system/case temps. Is that a correct summation?

It sucks to read that. Now I'm leaning back towards the original TP. I've also looked at Fortron, as those seem to be some highly recommended/reliable PSUs as well. I'm just familiar with Antec, and I like to stick with what I'm familiar with.

How likely is it that Antec fixed this problem already? There was an Antec dev guy on that thread, but I don't know how likely he was to report things back (or how fast things are to change when there's a problem). Why are things never easy?

 

[Cheezeit]

Originally posted by: Quadriflax

Originally posted by: Cheezeit
quad, before you buy, read This thread. it will give the real dope, based on someones expeirience.

now granted, the tp2 is a nice psu, but there is an important engineirng flaw that would make me whink twice before getting it.

i got the fortron blue storm 500 afeter doing a bunch of reasearch

If I understand correctly, that thread basically says they used the wrong fan in the TPII, causing the unit to potentially over heat more than it should in a case. This could cause premature PSU failure and/or higher system/case temps. Is that a correct summation?

It sucks to read that. Now I'm leaning back towards the original TP. I've also looked at Fortron, as those seem to be some highly recommended/reliable PSUs as well. I'm just familiar with Antec, and I like to stick with what I'm familiar with.

How likely is it that Antec fixed this problem already? There was an Antec dev guy on that thread, but I don't know how likely he was to report things back (or how fast things are to change when there's a problem). Why are things never easy?

you are correct. That would mean it would shorten the lifespan and teh fan would run crazy, making the fan only connectyers do that too.

I feel for you man, I was in the same position as you and was sure of the TP2 and then found that thread. Ive always liked antec but then i decied to get the fortron Blue Storm .i havent used it yet as i am waiting on some parts, but man this thing is heavy(good sign just incase u dont know)


sadly, i don't think antec will fix the problem. i takes alot of money to change something like that(contracts) and not enough people have realized the problem.
Have you checked out SPCR? its a good psu review site

 

[Quadriflax]

Originally posted by: Cheezeit
you are correct. That would mean it would shorten the lifespan and teh fan would run crazy, making the fan only connectyers do that too.

I feel for you man, I was in the same position as you and was sure of the TP2 and then found that thread. Ive always liked antec but then i decied to get the fortron Blue Storm .i havent used it yet as i am waiting on some parts, but man this thing is heavy(good sign just incase u dont know)


sadly, i don't think antec will fix the problem. i takes alot of money to change something like that(contracts) and not enough people have realized the problem.
Have you checked out SPCR? its a good psu review site

I've looked at the Blue Storm and it does look solid. But like I said, I like to stick with what I know. If for no other reason, than because it makes things easier. I've already spent what I feel is waaay too much time on looking at PSUs. Last time I bought one to replace a generic PSU I had I asked what was good, heard "Antec," and picked one up. It's been great for me ever since. I know a hell of a lot more about PSUs now than I did then, but I've never seen anything lead me to believe Antec is a poor choice.

Basically I'm not an enthusiast (in the Anandtech sense of the word), but I'm not a total n00b either. I research the crap out of the parts I buy, but there's always tradeoffs. And in the end, I'm thinking most issues that come up aren't going to effect me in any real way. I think I'm going to stick with the TP430, as I've not read anything that can convince me it's a bad choice. Yeah, maybe there's something out there that's quieter, or that runs slightly cooler, but I'm not really that worried about it. That thread you posted, however, does concern me. It seems significant enough an issue that I'll go with the older, tried-and-true Antec TP.

I like to make sure people know I'm not being lazy in my efforts. I do my fair share of research, but I like to run things by people to make sure I don't miss anything. And this thread has proven why I do that. No one can know everything, so asking for help never hurts

 

[Cheezeit]

okay, im just not sure if the Msi mobo will be unstable without a 24 pin psu. ( i know the Dfi is). just make sure.

have fun building your computer

 

[Quadriflax]

Originally posted by: Cheezeit
okay, im just not sure if the Msi mobo will be unstable without a 24 pin psu. ( i know the Dfi is). just make sure.

have fun building your computer

???

Any reason it would be? From what I understand the four extra pins power the video card. I was under the impression that as long as you have a solid PSU with lots of amps on the 12v rail, the four pins aren't really that big a concern (especially since you can take an adaptor and convert a regular power connector so it fits into the video card plug). Is there any way I can tell if not having a 24 pin PSU is going to be a problem for the Neo4-F?

 

[Cheezeit]

contact MSI (or try to, should i say)

see if anyone else has done it.

i don't know why either, but its just like that for the nf4 dfi boards. they have warings and everything. If you have stabiblty issues, the first thing is ask is if you have a 24 pin psu.

 

[Cobalt]

I have the TP2 430 and I don't have any bad experiences with it yet. As of right now I would recommend it seeing I have no problems so far. No noise problems for me in my SLK3000B.

 

[MobiusPizza]

Originally posted by: Quadriflax

Originally posted by: Cheezeit
okay, im just not sure if the Msi mobo will be unstable without a 24 pin psu. ( i know the Dfi is). just make sure.

have fun building your computer

???

Any reason it would be? From what I understand the four extra pins power the video card. I was under the impression that as long as you have a solid PSU with lots of amps on the 12v rail, the four pins aren't really that big a concern (especially since you can take an adaptor and convert a regular power connector so it fits into the video card plug). Is there any way I can tell if not having a 24 pin PSU is going to be a problem for the Neo4-F?

The DFi really does run unstable with 20-pin
Wel in any case it would be best to get a 24-pin Power Supply, they aren't expensive anyway. Antec TPII is 24-pin and TP-I is not

 

[rise]

i have the tpII 550 and love it. i bought it before seeing that thread in hard and it scared me a bit. but my experience is that it is rock stable 24/7 and doesn't run hot. most of the time my fan spins ~800 rpm and at times will hit 1050 when i am stress testing.

and the rails are awesome 11.99 idle and 11.97 load oc'd about 20%. load is prime large with rthdribl.

 

[Quadriflax]

Well, I'm pretty sure I won't have to worry about a 20-pin PSU not working. I browsed through the online manual and on page 2-10 it states:

You may use the 20-pin ATX power supply or 24-pin SSI power supply as you like.

The hardware compatibility list for the board also has the Enermax EG365P-VE as passing/compatible, and it only has one 12v rail (oddly enough there are no tested/listed Antecs). As a result, I'm leaning towards the original TruePower again. Although the TPII seems to overall be a great choice, I think without a specific need for the duel rails I'll stick with what's been through the ropes already. If I was running an SLI machine I would probably think otherwise. Though if anyone else wants to chime in I'm still open to suggestions/opinions.