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Antec 1200 vs CM HAF932

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Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
and the pinnacle is $100+ more than the CM and Antec

not really a comparision... compare it with a LL or Silverstone tower and it won't look like such a good buy unless you're WCing

Yes, the Pinnacle doesn't make economic sense. I bought it anyway.

They brought me as close as I'll come for now to building a case from scratch. They sell modular parts that can be assembled into cases, organized into suggested kits on their web site. One could also buy a few key parts from them (motherboard tray, 5.25" bay, back panel) and build more closely from scratch.

Yes, it takes about 10 seconds to see where water cooling would go. Can't say this for commercial cases I've seen, even those that are built specifically for water cooling.

The appeal is having a roomy, well-ventilated case with nothing inside one didn't intentionally choose. I'm tired of stripping out all the parts that I can from Antec cases, and still having crap in the way that I don't want. Bailing out of my Antec case, I never wanted to look back, it will go free on a local Craig's list.

It's astonishing all the people who whine about cooler backplates, because they have to remove their motherboard to swap coolers? Could hooking up all those case wires one never uses have anything to do with it? (My earlier comment was that this is a dexterity task equal to about four seconds of playing the piano, it's only a pyschological hurdle.) I hooked up power and reset, I like that.

This is an aesthetic issue, we live in a consumer society where we confuse "choosing" with "doing". It bugs me to see anything in a case I wouldn't have put there, and Mountain Mods frees me from this feeling.

Were I saving money, I'd wait for an Antec 1200 sale, and strip out everything that wasn't riveted in place.
 
Well, it's being re-done anyways. That 140 is being replaced by a 120 and a 120.1 radiator is going to be mounted on back, and i'll cut some holes so the barbs are internal. Or if I have room, I'll mod a 120.2 in somewhere. And that pump is being replaced by two MCP355's with an EK dualhead top. And I need another MCW60 with RAMSINKS to cool the second GTX260. The first 260 hits 50 on full load OC'd to 700/1500/1100. At the same speed, the second can reach 80C. I would like to WC it.

So it will be Res->Pump1->Pump2->PA120.3->Apogee GTZ->120.?->MCW60->MCW60->Res
 
Originally posted by: Syzygies
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
and the pinnacle is $100+ more than the CM and Antec

not really a comparision... compare it with a LL or Silverstone tower and it won't look like such a good buy unless you're WCing

snip.

no idea what you just said dude.

 
Originally posted by: PCTC2
Well, it's being re-done anyways. That 140 is being replaced by a 120 and a 120.1 radiator is going to be mounted on back, and i'll cut some holes so the barbs are internal. Or if I have room, I'll mod a 120.2 in somewhere. And that pump is being replaced by two MCP355's with an EK dualhead top. And I need another MCW60 with RAMSINKS to cool the second GTX260. The first 260 hits 50 on full load OC'd to 700/1500/1100. At the same speed, the second can reach 80C. I would like to WC it.

So it will be Res->Pump1->Pump2->PA120.3->Apogee GTZ->120.?->MCW60->MCW60->Res

nice nice, did u keep the red front? and the 230 side fan? i got rid of that red front fan asap
 
I put the top fan where the front red fan was IMMEDIATELY. I keep my computers with blue LEDs and keep the glow very slight. Only enough so when I peer in, I can tell the water level in the res. 😛

I kept the side fan just to cool some passive heatsinks I have (RAM/PWM on GTX260 and NB)
 
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSSno idea what you just said dude.
Sorry to bother you, this thread poses as a request for opinions. If I'd realized you were goal-tending it, I wouldn't have wasted my time.

 
Originally posted by: Syzygies
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSSno idea what you just said dude.
Sorry to bother you, this thread poses as a request for opinions. If I'd realized you were goal-tending it, I wouldn't have wasted my time.
Way to take what LOUIS said and blow it out of proportion. He said he had no idea what your post said. He did not say anything negative against you.

Originally posted by: ExcaliburMM

Very nice, and that looks like one SERIOUS sound card. Mind telling me exactly which it is? 😛

Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Platinum. The only reason I got it was for the optical input and output and 1/4" jack instead of 3.5mm jack for my Sennheiser headphones.
 
Originally posted by: Syzygies
Sorry to bother you, this thread poses as a request for opinions. If I'd realized you were goal-tending it, I wouldn't have wasted my time.


Originally posted by: Syzygies
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
and the pinnacle is $100+ more than the CM and Antec

not really a comparision... compare it with a LL or Silverstone tower and it won't look like such a good buy unless you're WCing

Yes, the Pinnacle doesn't make economic sense. I bought it anyway.

They brought me as close as I'll come for now to building a case from scratch. They sell modular parts that can be assembled into cases, organized into suggested kits on their web site. One could also buy a few key parts from them (motherboard tray, 5.25" bay, back panel) and build more closely from scratch.

Yes, it takes about 10 seconds to see where water cooling would go. Can't say this for commercial cases I've seen, even those that are built specifically for water cooling.

The appeal is having a roomy, well-ventilated case with nothing inside one didn't intentionally choose. I'm tired of stripping out all the parts that I can from Antec cases, and still having crap in the way that I don't want. Bailing out of my Antec case, I never wanted to look back, it will go free on a local Craig's list.

It's astonishing all the people who whine about cooler backplates, because they have to remove their motherboard to swap coolers? Could hooking up all those case wires one never uses have anything to do with it? (My earlier comment was that this is a dexterity task equal to about four seconds of playing the piano, it's only a pyschological hurdle.) I hooked up power and reset, I like that.

This is an aesthetic issue, we live in a consumer society where we confuse "choosing" with "doing". It bugs me to see anything in a case I wouldn't have put there, and Mountain Mods frees me from this feeling.

Were I saving money, I'd wait for an Antec 1200 sale, and strip out everything that wasn't riveted in place.

dude, i still dont have any idea of what you're saying. it started with "it doesn't make sense... i bought it anyway" and continued with "its astonishing all... swap coolers?" why do you have a question mark at the end of a statement? and "case wires" huh? everyone has case wires. you need them to power on the machine right? then i completely lost you at "psychological hurdle."
 
anyway, PCTC2, that wc setup looks pretty diesel, but like others said, you might as well hook up dual loops inside that case with the 2nd radiator in the front or hanging out the rear, or sandwich.

i KNOW you got the resources to =)

 
Haha. Resources. I'm broke, but I'm still getting Aigo'd.

I don't really have the space to hook up a second loop, and I have no clue where to put a radiator in front. Sandwiching would hit the RAM. So I figured I'm going to hang 2x TFC X120.1 out the back, sandwiched. A single loop would eliminate some tubing and a reservoir so I'm just going for a dual-pump single loop. I don't need the best temps on my CPU.
 
Originally posted by: Syzygies
doesn't make economic sense.

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
doesn't make sense

You're equating the two, not me.

I'm thrilled with my Mountain Mods case, after giving the Antec 1200 serious consideration. That's what drew me to this thread. After my Mountain Mods case, I can't imagine going back to anything else. I was trying to convey my reasons, and they don't resonate with you. They might resonate with others. Let's remember that no thread is all about the OP. Threads are public conversations, with lurkers who come with similar interests. I lurk in many threads without posting; so do others.

I'm sorry if I overreacted to your repeated "dude, I didn't get that!" I thought you were posturing.
 
you're talking about a $280+ case when the topic is comparing ~$150 cases. Might as well bring up the Murdermod TJ07, of course, if i had that case i would never go back down to Antec or Cm! DUH!

if you're going to make suggestions to a thread, at least let them be within the price range.
 
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