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Twista

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If i can lift 45's on each side of the bar than how much can i really lift (bar is 45 btw)? Is it 90 or is it 135? Flat bench btw.
 

Gyrene

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It seems to me that you have 135lbs in weight...so you would be lifting, you ready for this? 135lbs. There's a shocker.
 

Twista

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Originally posted by: minendo
Why would the bar not count?

Bar is counted. Maybe i should not confuse ppl with the same #'s What about 15 on each side with the bar than. Is that 60 or 75. Its 75 than since i just read the rest of the thread. And i didnt lift 135 ;p just a example fool above lol.
 

Mingon

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How wide is the bar? Whilst you would think its just bar+weights+weights it depends where your hand are. The closer your hands are the more your lifting, but the easier it is for you body.
 

thomsbrain

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Originally posted by: Mingon
How wide is the bar? Whilst you would think its just bar+weights+weights it depends where your hand are. The closer your hands are the more your lifting, but the easier it is for you body.

yeah but you're still lifting the same weight. and putting your hands close together makes it harder to hold the bar level, so it's 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: Mingon
How wide is the bar? Whilst you would think its just bar+weights+weights it depends where your hand are. The closer your hands are the more your lifting, but the easier it is for you body.
Given that with hands 3 inches apart or 3 feet apart there is no pivoting in the bar, the realized weight is still the same in both cases. There will be differences in how easy that weight is to push, simply based on body mechanics.

 

Mingon

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Mingon
How wide is the bar? Whilst you would think its just bar+weights+weights it depends where your hand are. The closer your hands are the more your lifting, but the easier it is for you body.
Given that with hands 3 inches apart or 3 feet apart there is no pivoting in the bar, the realized weight is still the same in both cases. There will be differences in how easy that weight is to push, simply based on body mechanics.

Not sure I agree, but I cant remember the full beam calculations as its been about 7 years since I have had to use bending moments formulae.
 

Spamela

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Originally posted by: Mingon
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Mingon
How wide is the bar? Whilst you would think its just bar+weights+weights it depends where your hand are. The closer your hands are the more your lifting, but the easier it is for you body.
Given that with hands 3 inches apart or 3 feet apart there is no pivoting in the bar, the realized weight is still the same in both cases. There will be differences in how easy that weight is to push, simply based on body mechanics.

Not sure I agree, but I cant remember the full beam calculations as its been about 7 years since I have had to use bending moments formulae.

with a wide grip you don't move the weight as
far (making the lift easier, other things being equal), but you use different muscles
(narrow grip == more triceps, wider grip == more chest).

so, whether or not it's easier depends on the individual.
 

Koing

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Originally posted by: Spamela
Originally posted by: Mingon
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Mingon
How wide is the bar? Whilst you would think its just bar+weights+weights it depends where your hand are. The closer your hands are the more your lifting, but the easier it is for you body.
Given that with hands 3 inches apart or 3 feet apart there is no pivoting in the bar, the realized weight is still the same in both cases. There will be differences in how easy that weight is to push, simply based on body mechanics.

Not sure I agree, but I cant remember the full beam calculations as its been about 7 years since I have had to use bending moments formulae.

with a wide grip you don't move the weight as
far (making the lift easier, other things being equal), but you use different muscles
(narrow grip == more triceps, wider grip == more chest).

so, whether or not it's easier depends on the individual.

Ditto.

You will rarely find someone who can do a close grip bench press on over 700lbs! But you can find freaks that can bench press 700lbs with normal bench press length. Pecs inherently stronger then tri's so you will shift more weight.

Koing