Another win for marriage equality

[jonks]

http://www.iht.com/articles/20...america/29marriage.php

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05.../30marriagecnd.html?hp

He may be blind but even he can see what's just.

NY Gov issues directive that the state update it's policies to recognize same-sex marriages performed in CA and MA or foreign countries where it is legal, such as Spain.

NY dems have tried to pass legislation authorizing same-sex marriage but have been stymied by senate republicans. This is an intermediary and forward looking step until such legislation is eventually passed within the state.

I anticipate thousands of NY couples heading to CA and MA pretty damn quick.

 

[RichardE]

Good news here. All people should be equal before the government.

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: RichardE
Good news here. All people should be equal before the government.

So why are some taxed more? And why does the gov't participate in and condone affirmative action programs?

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: RichardE
Good news here. All people should be equal before the government.

So why are some taxed more? And why does the gov't participate in and condone affirmative action programs?

Why can't everyone be the president of the United States of America at the same time? Why have a authoritative structure in place at all? Did I really need to specify very particularilly what I was talking about, or were you just being a moron?

 

[Brainonska511]

I'm glad my current governor isn't some hypocritical jerk and is doing something positive for the state.

Edit:
Removed off topic stuff to help keep the thread on track.

 

[Robor]

Good. :thumbsup:

That said, I think this thread is going to spin out of control soon.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Robor
Good. :thumbsup:

That said, I think this thread is going to spin out of control soon.

Indubitably. Wait till Atreus gets here and asks why Paterson won't also recognize polygamy

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: RichardE
Good news here. All people should be equal before the government.

So why are some taxed more? And why does the gov't participate in and condone affirmative action programs?

No fair asking questions above your grade level. The answers would only confuse you and make you argumentative.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Robor
Good. :thumbsup:

That said, I think this thread is going to spin out of control soon.

Indubitably. Wait till Atreus gets here and asks why Paterson won't also recognize polygamy

You scoff, but next he'll be recognizing people marrying monkeys, or cats marrying basketballs, or nouns marrying adjectives. Gay marriage is the gateway drug of matrimony, and will plunge our society into anarchy and chaos (which are due to be married next week).

 

[sportage]

HEHEHEHE HOHOHOHO
Oh noooooooooo
Not the "MAN MARRIES DOG" argument..... AGAIN!!!

HEHEHEHE

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Robor
Good. :thumbsup:

Another :thumbsup:

 

[jonks]

Shockingly, Bill O'Reilly has a guest on who cannot articulate ONE non-religious reason why gay marriage should be illegal. http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPl...4443-97be-00cd871b6726

 

[glenn1]

Originally posted by: sirjonk
http://www.iht.com/articles/20...america/29marriage.php

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05.../30marriagecnd.html?hp

He may be blind but even he can see what's just.

NY Gov issues directive that the state update it's policies to recognize same-sex marriages performed in CA and MA or foreign countries where it is legal, such as Spain.

NY dems have tried to pass legislation authorizing same-sex marriage but have been stymied by senate republicans. This is an intermediary and forward looking step until such legislation is eventually passed within the state.

I anticipate thousands of NY couples heading to CA and MA pretty damn quick.

I have no problem with this, so long as there is no constitutional or other restriction that would disallow the governor to do this.

That being said, I'd still prefer the state only recognize civil unions for all (gay or straight) and leave marriage to churches as a religious sacrament, as I've stated in numerous other threads.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Robor
Good. :thumbsup:

Another :thumbsup:

:thumbsup:

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Robor
Good. :thumbsup:

That said, I think this thread is going to spin out of control soon.

Indubitably. Wait till Atreus gets here and asks why Paterson won't also recognize polygamy

You scoff, but next he'll be recognizing people marrying monkeys, or cats marrying basketballs, or nouns marrying adjectives. Gay marriage is the gateway drug of matrimony, and will plunge our society into anarchy and chaos (which are due to be married next week).

We're headed for a brave, new world folks.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: sirjonk
Shockingly, Bill O'Reilly has a guest on who cannot articulate ONE non-religious reason why gay marriage should be illegal. http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPl...4443-97be-00cd871b6726

marriage is a religious institution.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: sirjonk
Shockingly, Bill O'Reilly has a guest on who cannot articulate ONE non-religious reason why gay marriage should be illegal. http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPl...4443-97be-00cd871b6726

marriage is a religious institution.

Then why on Earth is the United States government offering tax incentives to married couples that are not offered to single people? "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." I could've sworn the Constitution was still the supreme law of the land...

 

[Kappo]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: sirjonk
Shockingly, Bill O'Reilly has a guest on who cannot articulate ONE non-religious reason why gay marriage should be illegal. http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPl...4443-97be-00cd871b6726

marriage is a religious institution.

True, and to be honest, the government has zero business being in the marriage business in the first place. They shouldn't recognize same sex marriage or traditional marriages, period.

A better move would be to remove any type of tax advantage/disadvantage from any kind of union. Tax people equally, and instead of wasting time on crap like this, find a way to work out insurance so that non-joined insurance can be possible.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: sirjonk
Shockingly, Bill O'Reilly has a guest on who cannot articulate ONE non-religious reason why gay marriage should be illegal. http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPl...4443-97be-00cd871b6726

Very nice :thumbsup:

Lots of fun, awkward silence in that clip, despite Bill lobbing softballs at him and everything.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: sirjonk
Shockingly, Bill O'Reilly has a guest on who cannot articulate ONE non-religious reason why gay marriage should be illegal. http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPl...4443-97be-00cd871b6726

marriage is a religious institution.

Then why on Earth is the United States government offering tax incentives to married couples that are not offered to single people? "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." I could've sworn the Constitution was still the supreme law of the land...

First of all there is a point where you pay more taxes if you file as married. AKA marriage penalty.

But the main purpose of government recognizing marriage was to normalize estate transfers to spouses.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: Kappo

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: sirjonk
Shockingly, Bill O'Reilly has a guest on who cannot articulate ONE non-religious reason why gay marriage should be illegal. http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPl...4443-97be-00cd871b6726

marriage is a religious institution.

True, and to be honest, the government has zero business being in the marriage business in the first place. They shouldn't recognize same sex marriage or traditional marriages, period.

A better move would be to remove any type of tax advantage/disadvantage from any kind of union. Tax people equally, and instead of wasting time on crap like this, find a way to work out insurance so that non-joined insurance can be possible.

Agreed, but what is the solution to estate transfers? I guess we can get rid of the estate tax.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: JS80
marriage is a religious institution.

So people didn't get "married" prior to religion? Interesting.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: sirjonk
Shockingly, Bill O'Reilly has a guest on who cannot articulate ONE non-religious reason why gay marriage should be illegal. http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPl...4443-97be-00cd871b6726

marriage is a religious institution.

marriage is a contract that can be validated through religious means if people choose to.

 

[Kappo]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: Kappo

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: sirjonk
Shockingly, Bill O'Reilly has a guest on who cannot articulate ONE non-religious reason why gay marriage should be illegal. http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPl...4443-97be-00cd871b6726

marriage is a religious institution.

True, and to be honest, the government has zero business being in the marriage business in the first place. They shouldn't recognize same sex marriage or traditional marriages, period.

A better move would be to remove any type of tax advantage/disadvantage from any kind of union. Tax people equally, and instead of wasting time on crap like this, find a way to work out insurance so that non-joined insurance can be possible.

Agreed, but what is the solution to estate transfers? I guess we can get rid of the estate tax.

LOL I think most of us that work for a living most of our lives would be MORE than happy to do away with ANY concept of redistributing the wealth.

 

[Kappo]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: JS80
marriage is a religious institution.

So people didn't get "married" prior to religion? Interesting.

Adam and Eve is not the start of religion