Another School Shooting: One Person Hit

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DannyLove

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<< highly doubt that is the case. >>



you must include all possible possibilities. what if that was the case and the kid had a problem with acceptance and he was a loner, but he didnt want to tell his &quot;nice&quot; parents because he didnt want to disappoint them or something. and there might be a bully of some kind. what happens then? does he really need to commit a crime or a killing with a parents gun, no. you never know. this is a sick world we now live in. and the sad thing is, its only getting worse. ummmmmm, reminds me of the Revelation chapter.
 

RaDragon

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OMGosh...:( and just two days after the San Diego shooting?! It's as if news hasn't travelled that fast to prevent and knock some sense into everyone.
 

Vikaden

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NEWS FLASH:

TV does not cause kids to go insane, I have watched the most gorry things on TV and i have no desire to go out and kill people, I have played CS, UT, Quake3 and they dont make me want to kill either. Why? you ask, because I dont have a pre-existing mental condition.
 

Total Refected Power

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TV does not cause kids to go insane, I have watched the most gorry things on TV and i have no desire to go out and kill people, I have played CS, UT, Quake3 and they dont make me want to kill either. Why? you ask, because I dont have a pre-existing mental condition.

The fact is that PRE-EXISTING mental conditions have always been part of the human equation but school shootings are a recent phenomenom. So what has changed?

Logic tells us that it must be EXTERNAL societal forces.
 

Spiker

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hey, I go to college 3 blocks away from this shooting, my professor's children go to that highschool. This one hits a bit too close to home. Just how dumb are parents to let their kids get their hands on guns anyway??
 

RaDragon

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<< Logic tells us that it must be EXTERNAL societal forces. >>



Yup! I agree -- but the media and entertainment aren't the only societal forces. <raving fundamentalist> It's the *internet* that's doing all this! Theeee interneeettt!!</raving fundamentalist> ;) (j/k)
 

speed01

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FWIW, I believe that what is wrong with kids today IS the parents fault. When I was growing up, if I did something wrong, I was punished in one way or another. These days I see kids of all ages getting away with anything they want because they have no respect for anyone or anything. And why don't they? Because their parents never taught them any. How many times has anyone gone to the store and seen kids just running all over and carrying on like they are on the playground? If I had tried that garbage as a kid, my parents would have busted my arse right then and there. I feel that many folks just don't want to be bothered with disciplining their kids or teaching them right from wrong. That coupled with the fact that one can be prosecuted for the type of discipline that some of us grew up with doesn't help. I just read an article in the paper yesterday where a man was arrested and charged with assault and illegal possesion of a weapon because when his son was suspended from High School for fighting, he took a belt to his son's rear. Anyway, I'm just rambling now so I'll stop.
 

seewhy

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I remember a pretty big news here in chicago just a few month ago. A couple from China slap their daughter in the park to discipline her, and social workers arrested the parents and was gonna deport them out of the country.

May be this kind of action had good intention of reducing child abuse, but how should parents discipline their kids now a day? Worse of all, this kind of stuff sends a singal to the kids today that they are untouchable.

There is no simple solution to all these, parents may be the problem, society may be the problem, government may be the problem. I am not gonna say gun is the problem, that will piss too many people off!! hehe



<< Actually, according to the NRA, if all students and teachers carried guns, the damage in some of these school shootings would be minimized because they could take out the shooter so much faster...... >>



This gives me an idea, why don't we put all NRA member's children in a special school by themselves. Allow them to carry guns as they like, have NRA members as teachers and principals and have them carry guns all the time too. No metal detector....let see how that's gonna work out. :)
 

piku

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They need to make an example out of one of these incidents. They need a severe beating or something. Broken bones, removed limbs, something so that others don't do this again thinking that they will get away with it.
 

Scrapster

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you must include all possible possibilities

I would put money down, cuz I'm feeling lucky right now, that this kid was abused growing up, and I'm NOT talking about the kids picking on him and teasing him at school. Something ugly probably happened to these kids that I'm almost positive the parents could have prevented directly, or indirectly.

Anyone want to take me up on this wager?

Scrapster

 

monckywrench

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Hard to expect parents to discipline kids when physical force (in moderation)is not an option. A high percentage of these kids talk about their intentions (maybe a gesture for sympathy?) before acting. We can't put the genie back in the bottle in terms of fixing society, but we can implement intelligence collection, and encourage the potential perps friends to dime him/her out before he acts. (As an aside, why do these kids almost all seem to be self-pitying white boys? This girl is unusual.)