I have an NV41 card, and it overclocks like nothing I've seen, just regular cooler and everything. NV42 is based off the same awesome chip, and even a lowered process. The 6800 Go Ultra at 12/5 was beating the 6800 Ultra in some cases. On my card I got from 325/600 to 450/850 MHz stock cooling. I have not tried going any farther because I don't want to damage the thing. In comparison, my 9500 PRO crashed when I overclocked it 10 MHz core.
Originally posted by: linkgoron
Why 6800GS and not a 7600?
That's a very good question! Or at least 7500 or something... You'd think with the die shrink and all they'd just put in in with the new series, since it competes with the X1600's.
By the way, the 6800GS to me sounds good but not great. When they use terms like "competes with the 6800GT" (and then you find out it's 12/5 pipes/shader units), it doesn't get me quite as excited as "is faster than the 6800GT" (with o/c headroom to boot).
We've learned from the X800 Pro that pipes > clockspeed in these cases, as the X800XL is a bit faster than the X800 Pro.
Then again we also learned from the X1800XT that very high clockspeed = more pipes in some cases, so that just confuses things further.
So basically I'm saying, NV42 doesn't look that good unless it overclocks like nuts. If it does, sign me up for one!
What the other guys said about it being a Go 6800 core makes perfect sense. They're ditching the old Go 6800 cores 'cuz they want Go 7800's to be the performance mobile GPU. And keep in mind, the Go 6800 Ultra kept up with/surpassed the desktop 6800 Ultra in certain scenarios.Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
Originally posted by: linkgoron
Why 6800GS and not a 7600?
That's a very good question! Or at least 7500 or something... You'd think with the die shrink and all they'd just put in in with the new series, since it competes with the X1600's.
By the way, the 6800GS to me sounds good but not great. When they use terms like "competes with the 6800GT" (and then you find out it's 12/5 pipes/shader units), it doesn't get me quite as excited as "is faster than the 6800GT" (with o/c headroom to boot).
We've learned from the X800 Pro that pipes > clockspeed in these cases, as the X800XL is a bit faster than the X800 Pro.
Then again we also learned from the X1800XT that very high clockspeed = more pipes in some cases, so that just confuses things further.
So basically I'm saying, NV42 doesn't look that good unless it overclocks like nuts. If it does, sign me up for one!
And they will release lower end 7xxx parts, they're coming; for now they're getting rid of old stock!
Still waiting on a response from the two NVIDIA guys I know....:roll:
Interesting... Was the GF 6800 Go a 12/5 pipeline architecture, or 16/6? Would a soft/hard mod be possible? Was the GF Go 6800 110nm?
12/5, and no a mod is not possible because the chip itself contains only 12 pixel pipelines and 5 vertex shaders. Not to worry though, the 12/5 at a high enough clock was able to beat the 16/6 GeForce 6800 Ultra. Yes, the GeForce Go 6800 Ultra is 110nm.
Well, are you talking about Go 6800 or Go 6800 Ultra? Both are 110nm.
The Go 6800 is NV41M (12/6) and the Go 6800 Ultra is NV42 (12/5).
12/5, but high clocks thanks to power saving & 110nm process
No mod to my knowledge, but most people don't try to mod laptop GPU's
No mod to my knowledge, but most people don't try to mod laptop GPU's
Ah, so the Go 6800 Ultra is 12/5. That's interesting - with good cooling it could probably achieve high clocks.
The type of RAM would be critical as well - it would have to be 256MB of GDDR3 at at least 1 GHz (hopefully higher).
I'll be following this as it sounds like an interesting card.
Still, I had an X800 Pro, and even with overclocking the core to 525 MHz, the 16-pipe XL beat the X800 Pro in everything, and took a minimal overclock to match the X800 Pro when overclocked.
The type of RAM would be critical as well - it would have to be 256MB of GDDR3 at at least 1 GHz (hopefully higher).
I'll be following this as it sounds like an interesting card.
Still, I had an X800 Pro, and even with overclocking the core to 525 MHz, the 16-pipe XL beat the X800 Pro in everything, and took a minimal overclock to match the X800 Pro when overclocked.
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A mid range, 425/1000 12pp 5vs 256bit 256mb GDDR3... at MSRP of $249.
It is really a nice card, and could be a really good successor of the 6600GTs until the 7600s roll in.
It is really a nice card, and could be a really good successor of the 6600GTs until the 7600s roll in.
Don't I wish... but chances are fat probably.
fbrdphreak, could we get a confirmation on this too? thnx.
Radeon x1600 isnt even out yet, only x1800xl. Check newegg, not out till November. So inquirer is saying the paper launch of x1600 is killing geforce 6600??? Is inquirer on drugs?
Just e-mailed my guy again, SLACKEROriginally posted by: BespinReactorShaft
Don't I wish... but chances are fat probably.
fbrdphreak, could we get a confirmation on this too? thnx.
Maybe I'll hold off building my system until these hit the market. There seemed to be a notable hole in nvidia's lineup in the $200-$300 range. You have the 6600GT and vanilla 6800s in the $150-$200 range and the 6800GTs and 7800GTs come in at $300+ (though you're starting to see some 6800GTs in the $275 range).
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