Another Navy Accident :(

Josh

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Taken from AOL's news website.

At Least 6 Die in US Navy Accident
The Associated Press
Mar 12 2001 3:13PM

WASHINGTON (AP) - A U.S. Navy F/A-18 jet accidentally dropped a bomb on a group of military personnel at a bombing range in northern Kuwait on Monday, killing six people, including four Americans, Pentagon officials said.
Details were sketchy.

One official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said an estimated 10 people were injured. A second official said no civilians were involved.

President Bush, traveling in Panama City, Fla., opened a speech on his budget proposals and military spending with brief mention of the accident in Kuwait.

``I'm reminded today of how dangerous service can be. We lost some servicemen today in Kuwait in a training accident,'' Bush said. ``I hope you'll join me in moment of silence for those soldiers and their families. God Bless.''

Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman would say only that there had been a ``training accident'' and that there were an unspecified number of casualties.

Other officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said five had been killed, including four Americans. The nationality of the fifth was not immediately known.

The accident happened at the Udairi bombing range in Kuwait.

An official said the Navy plane, which was flying from the USS Harry S. Truman aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf, dropped what was believed to be a 500-pound gravity bomb. The circumstances of the accident were not immediately clear.

The United States military has operated regularly from airfields and an Army base in Kuwait since the 1991 Gulf War, when a U.S.-led coalition expelled the occupying Iraqi army from the tiny Persian Gulf nation.
 

KotchY

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i dont get how you can drop a bomb accidently...not like if you bump a switch it drops
 

Viper GTS

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As tragic as it is, (I think...) we lose more people in training than we do in combat. That's one of the costs of having well-trained, well-prepared armed forces.

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fobbman

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<< ``I'm reminded today of how dangerous service can be. We lost some servicemen today in Kuwait in a training accident,'' Bush said. >>



Reminded? Yeah, he must have read somewhere that it was dangerous.

 

cipher00

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Actually, it's scary how easy it is. When I went for artillery training, the week before someone had shelled a parking lot. :Q Luckily, that time no one was hurt.
 

BoberFett

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cipher00

From the description I read, it kind of sounds like those were 13Fs that were killed. :Q
 

Elledan

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If during training such accidents can happen this easily, shouldn't you consider those armed forces a danger to themselves and the country/countries they're protecting?
You would think that every well-trained, well-equiped force wouldn't make stupid mistakes like this?

Maybe it's time we start fighting virtual wars or use unmanned vehicles, with an AI taking over the role of the pilot. Tests with such airplanes have so far been a huge success...
 

poop

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AI instead of Pilot? Riiiiggghht. Not in our liftimes. In any case, if a pilot can make an error, why couldn't a computer?

Military requires weapons.
Weapons hurt people.
Military requires training.
People make mistakes.
=> people can get hurt.

Until we no longer need a military, we have to tolerate the risks.
 

thebestMAX

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<<Maybe it's time we start fighting virtual wars or use unmanned vehicles, with an AI taking over the role of the pilot. Tests with such airplanes have so far been a huge success...>>

This is a little late for this idea. The ORIGINAL Star Trek had an episode where just this happened. The only catch? The losers of the virtual wars had to supply the number of casualties the computers predicted.
 

JellyBaby

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I say we just ban the bombs. After all, if the navy had no bombs this tragic event would never have happened in the first place...unless the navy stole the munitions from the air force...in which case we should take away their bombs, too. :p

Accidents happen. Master arm ON, active pickle weapon and off that dumb bomb goes....very easy to release these. Regrettable but these things do happen you know. But I'll reserve final judgement when more details surface.
 

Josh

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<< I say we just ban the bombs. >>



Sure, US, if they do, will say they did, but of course, they'll have a secret stash. You can't &quot;ban&quot; the bombs. We need it in case we goto war.