Another migrant caravan heading for the USA ...

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...p-threat-to-cut-aid-to-honduras-idUSKCN1MQ1UX



Another caravan of migrants is heading north from Honduras towards Mexico and The US of A. The caravan has grown from about 1,500 to now about 3,000 people. If and when it gets to the US border there is no telling how large it will be.

The President has threatened to stop the migrant's entry into the US as well as cutting aid to Honduras (as well as other countries) if they do not start controlling their borders and stopping the migration. In response, the president of Honduras has voiced his disappointment with the lack of aid and investment in his country. In the article above notes that the organizer of the caravan has been detained because he did not comply with Guatemalan immigration rules” and would be deported back to Honduras in the coming hours. President Trumps threats seem to have hit a nerve. Will it stop the migration and illegal migrant entry into the US ... probably not.

The article provides a quote from the organizer of the caravan: “What Trump says doesn’t interest us. These people are fleeing. These people are not tourists.” Does this not sound like an entitlement statement? Whether you love/hate Trump, the country has immigration laws and the entry of a person into the country without a valid Visa is illegal.

What's your take ... and are you prepared for another influx?

 

[zinfamous]

No worries. We'll have some people representing the forums lining up, primed and ready to lob their grenades at all the babies trying to get in.

 

[IronWing]

Can we exchange them for Trump trash?

 

[alien42]

Hey OP, are you ignorant of legal asylum?

 

[compuwiz1]

Hey OP, are you ignorant of legal asylum?

Two thoughts: We do not have any obligation to just accept everyone who decides to come here, willy nilly. Don't bring the kids, if you don't want problems.

The adults should come alone and meet the test of asylum prior to bringing children. There will be less trouble for the parents that way, as well as less load on our system. If they pass muster and are granted asylum, we'll welcome them with open arms.

 

[Jhhnn]

Trump is such a total ignoramus & asshole, huh?

What if we had a President who looked at it a little deeper & tried to find a way to help these people want to stay home in Central America? Nobody walks 1500 miles because they liked it where they were. Quite the contrary.

Nah. If we're gonna spend money, better to spend it on private contractors to keep asylum seekers & their kids locked up in tent camps in the Texas desert. It makes sense if you're a Republican.

 

[Jhhnn]

Two thoughts: We do not have any obligation to just accept everyone who decides to come here, willy nilly. Don't bring the kids, if you don't want problems.

The adults should come alone and meet the test of asylum prior to bringing children. There will be less trouble for the parents that way, as well as less load on our system. If they pass muster and are granted asylum, we'll welcome them with open arms.

And who looks after their kids while they're doing that?

 

[K1052]

Trump is on twitter threatening to revoke aid to El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras if they don’t stop their citizens from coming to the US.

To actually do this would only make those places even less stable and worsen the problem.

 

[compuwiz1]

And who looks after their kids while they're doing that?

People with children have other family members. I just want to avoid the fiascos of the past. You know how this is gonna play out.

 

[HomerJS]

Two thoughts: We do not have any obligation to just accept everyone who decides to come here, willy nilly. Don't bring the kids, if you don't want problems.

The adults should come alone and meet the test of asylum prior to bringing children. There will be less trouble for the parents that way, as well as less load on our system. If they pass muster and are granted asylum, we'll welcome them with open arms.

Oh sure and leave their kids to the gangs of Honduras. I'm sure you would do that if in their shoes.

 

[senseamp]

Why would you announce two countries away that you are in a caravan of people trying to sneak into the US? This seems staged to scare Republican voters out of their already minuscule wits.

 

[IronWing]

People with children have other family members. I just want to avoid the fiascos of the past. You know how this is gonna play out.

With Sessions and Trump displaying moral depravity for all the world to see?

 

[Jhhnn]

People with children have other family members. I just want to avoid the fiascos of the past. You know how this is gonna play out.

You just hadn't thought it through when you said it. You could just say so.

And, yeh, Trump already turned stupid, huh? Can't resist talkin' shit & being a dick.

 

[Jhhnn]

Why would you announce two countries away that you are in a caravan of people trying to sneak into the US? This seems staged to scare Republican voters out of their already minuscule wits.

Their intent is to declare themselves asylum seekers at border check points, not to sneak in.

 

[Vic]

Let's all be afraid of a few poor people.. What a fucking joke.

 

[Jhhnn]

With Sessions and Trump displaying moral depravity for all the world to see?

Like they can help themselves.

 

[Vic]

Why would you announce two countries away that you are in a caravan of people trying to sneak into the US? This seems staged to scare Republican voters out of their already minuscule wits.

Yathink?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Two thoughts: We do not have any obligation to just accept everyone who decides to come here, willy nilly. Don't bring the kids, if you don't want problems.

The adults should come alone and meet the test of asylum prior to bringing children. There will be less trouble for the parents that way, as well as less load on our system. If they pass muster and are granted asylum, we'll welcome them with open arms.

Idiot.

 

[mikeymikec]

The adults should come alone and meet the test of asylum prior to bringing children.

Thought experiment for you: You are a family man and you're fleeing your country because you and your family are absolutely not safe any more. Do you take the kids?

That's just aside from the fact that in the scenario you describe, conservatives would then say, "obviously they're not genuine asylum seekers, they're just trying to milk the system: you can tell by the fact that they left their kids in the situation they're supposedly fleeing, no decent human being would do that!".

 

[ch33zw1z]

Why would you announce two countries away that you are in a caravan of people trying to sneak into the US? This seems staged to scare Republican voters out of their already minuscule wits.

Mid terms.

 

[DrunkenSano]

Why would you announce two countries away that you are in a caravan of people trying to sneak into the US? This seems staged to scare Republican voters out of their already minuscule wits.

Seems plausible if they wanted to be allowed to enter and cross Mexico, otherwise I wouldn't be surprised that the Mexico government would block them from entering. Or worse.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Two thoughts: We do not have any obligation to just accept everyone who decides to come here, willy nilly. Don't bring the kids, if you don't want problems.

The adults should come alone and meet the test of asylum prior to bringing children. There will be less trouble for the parents that way, as well as less load on our system. If they pass muster and are granted asylum, we'll welcome them with open arms.

While I agree, in practice this isn’t always the case. I don’t want to say every immigrant comes from a dangerous situation but certainly the number is more than zero.
What kind of a man leaves his kids behind where there is danger to find a new place that is safe?
My dream is we can all come up with some easy to understand plan, stop turning away so many “over qualified immigrants” and stop accepting every problem case. Create a system that works, is funded and nearly all agree is effective & humane.

 

[dainthomas]

Two thoughts: We do not have any obligation to just accept everyone who decides to come here, willy nilly. Don't bring the kids, if you don't want problems.

The adults should come alone and meet the test of asylum prior to bringing children. There will be less trouble for the parents that way, as well as less load on our system. If they pass muster and are granted asylum, we'll welcome them with open arms.

Should they leave their kids with the drug gangs or right wing militias?

Let's all be afraid of a few poor people.. What a fucking joke.

It's so weak and beta. Sad!

 

[Homerboy]

What's your take ... and are you prepared for another influx?

LOL "prepared"? I'm not sure what I need to "prepare" for in this situation.

 

[Homerboy]

People with children have other family members. I just want to avoid the fiascos of the past. You know how this is gonna play out.

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