Another massive GM recall - this time over 1.8 million

bernse

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From Yahoo

DETROIT - General Motors Corp. said Friday it is recalling 1.8 million cars to repair potential problems with the ignition switch that may cause a fire.


The models involved are certain 1998-2001 Chevrolet Cavaliers and Pontiac Sunfires built between March 1997 and April 2001. In addition, some 1998 Pontiac Grand Am, Oldsmobile Achieva, and Buick Skylark cars built between March 1997 and January 1998 are being recalled.

Of the total, 1.4 million of the vehicles are in the United States and 337,000 are in Canada. The remaining vehicles are outside these countries.

The vehicles are to be serviced to prevent high electrical current flow through the ignition switch that may cause a fire in the steering column.

The automaker said there have been reports of 80 incidents of heat build-up, melted components, smoldering parts or fires in the ignition system and steering column. It said no injuries or fatalities have been reported.

Most of the incidents occurred within minutes of an unsuccessful attempt to start the car, GM said.

In some of the vehicles, the ignition switch may deteriorate if the battery is weak, the engine fails to crank, and the driver holds the key in the "start" position for an extended period, GM said.
Due to the number of vehicles involved in the recall, the repair process will occur in three phases.

Beginning in early March, GM will begin notifying owners of the 1998-99 vehicles involved. They will be instructed to contact their dealers as soon as they get the letter. The owners of 2000 model year vehicles will be notified in May, asking them to contact dealers in May to arrange a service date, and the owners of 2001 model year vehicles will be contacted in June with service instructions for that month.

In early trading on the New York Stock Exchange (news - web sites), GM shares were down 18 cents at $48.33
I bet they're not happy --- espescially after that recall last month for something like 900,000 cars.

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Kenazo

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In some of the vehicles, the ignition switch may deteriorate if the battery is weak, the engine fails to crank, and the driver holds the key in the "start" position for an extended period, GM said.
Due to the number of vehicles involved in the recall, the repair process will occur in three phases.

d'oh you mean I'm not supposed to crank the engine for over 5 minutes? What are these people doing, putting the car in first, letting out the clutch and using the starter to drive to work?..... Look, I have a hybrid car!
 

bernse

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Originally posted by: Kenazo
In some of the vehicles, the ignition switch may deteriorate if the battery is weak, the engine fails to crank, and the driver holds the key in the "start" position for an extended period, GM said.
Due to the number of vehicles involved in the recall, the repair process will occur in three phases.

d'oh you mean I'm not supposed to crank the engine for over 5 minutes? What are these people doing, putting the car in first, letting out the clutch and using the starter to drive to work?..... Look, I have a hybrid car!

Depends what they consider "extended period". Most cars start within a second or two of cranking. If its cold or not in good condition it might take 10+. Is that what they call an "extended period?" Maybe. Should your steering column start melting? No way. It's a defect.
 

EyeMWing

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None of my GM products have been affected yet. All these stupid weenie cars nowadays...

1977 GMC Sierra Grande 2500
1987 GMC Vandura 2500

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Hrmm. This recall happened to my 96 grand am year or 2 ago. Im not so surprised now.
 

kenshorin

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Originally posted by: bernse

I bet they're not happy --- espescially after that recall last month for something like 900,000 cars.

This is just an idea, but maybe they should stop pinching pennies and make cars that actually work?
 

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Further proof that GM will be dead before the end of the decade. Confirms what a friend working at Saturn has been saying for the last while.
 

bernse

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Originally posted by: kenshorin
Originally posted by: bernse

I bet they're not happy --- espescially after that recall last month for something like 900,000 cars.

This is just an idea, but maybe they should stop pinching pennies and make cars that actually work?

WHOA! THAT'S CRAZY TALK MAN!!!

;) :beer:
 

Lifer

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Originally posted by: Wuffsunie
Further proof that GM will be dead before the end of the decade. Confirms what a friend working at Saturn has been saying for the last while.

rolleye.gif

u wanna place a wager on that?
 

Wuffsunie

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Originally posted by: Lifer
Originally posted by: Wuffsunie
Further proof that GM will be dead before the end of the decade. Confirms what a friend working at Saturn has been saying for the last while.
rolleye.gif

u wanna place a wager on that?
No problem.

 

CraigRT

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Originally posted by: kenshorin
Originally posted by: bernse

I bet they're not happy --- espescially after that recall last month for something like 900,000 cars.

This is just an idea, but maybe they should stop pinching pennies and make cars that actually work?

not GM! IMO the lowest quality cars on the road..
 

tizodq

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[sarcasm]i have a 2001 sunfire made on may 1st, good thing mine wasn't made in april [/sarcasm]



 

freebee

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Originally posted by: Wuffsunie
Further proof that GM will be dead before the end of the decade. Confirms what a friend working at Saturn has been saying for the last while.

Saturn may be dead at the end of the decade, but GM (the largest auto manufacturer in the world) will be alive and well.
 

amnesiac

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GM may live another hundred years but that doesn't mean I'll ever buy another one of their sh!tty products.

I had a 1995 GMC Jimmy.

After 5 years, 12 recalls, and $12,500 in repair costs (most of it under warranty thankfully), I have come to the conclusion that GM is by far the industry leader in poor build quality, wretched customer service, and unpleasant ownership experiences. Definitely something for them to be proud of.

FVCK GM.
 

bernse

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Originally posted by: Wuffsunie
Originally posted by: Lifer
Originally posted by: Wuffsunie
Further proof that GM will be dead before the end of the decade. Confirms what a friend working at Saturn has been saying for the last while.
rolleye.gif

u wanna place a wager on that?
No problem.
I'll take some of that action!

No way is GM going to be gone by the end of the decade, short of Armegeddon or something.
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: LAUST
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
An American Recallution!
<<INSERT PROFESSIONAL GRADE ENGINEERING JOKE HERE>>
Thats GMC Trucks, and they don't have any recalls, I know first hand :p

and the like a rock isnt for their cars either hehe. chevy trucks.

hmm, i wonder why they recalled both the cavalier and sunfire.

o wait, thats cuz they are IDENTICLE.

o yea, these cars are WAY before they started the american revolution. also, 80 incidents out of 1.4 million gives you a .6% chance of this occuring (thats rounded up also)

MIKE
 

MikeMike

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wow, something is insanely messed up when im online on my dads laptop, it errors on the message post thing, but i know i only click once.

MIKE