Another Kitchen design thread - Updated - New design

iamwiz82

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We hare having issues determining how to lay out the north wall of our galley kitchen. The south wall is pretty much stuck as is because I am not going to be ripping out drywall to re-run gas and water to new locations :eek:

North wall - simple galley

North wall - small L-counter

The prices are within $80 of each other for each configuration. Also please note that the blue to the right is actually the entrance to the dining room. This is an open walkway, no doors. The L allows ~43" of space between the counters, however teh oven is there currently and would make for a tight walk if the oven door were down.

EDIT: OK, What do you guys thing about this?

Looking at the south wall - Oven does in the hole on the left, cooktop goes in the middle of the 36" base cab. Hood goes above it. Fridge goes to the right.
Looking at the north wall - Dishwasher goes in the hole, sink above it.
 

Czar

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I like the L counter but I think it should be going in the other end of the kitchen so it doesnt block the window
 

Greenman

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How much space would there be between the L cabinets and the pantry across from it?
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: Czar
I like the L counter but I think it should be going in the other end of the kitchen so it doesnt block the window

That's not a window, it's the only way I could figure to show an open walkway to the rest of the house. The other direction is the entrance to the mudroom.

How much space would there be between the L cabinets and the pantry across from it?

43"
 

drnickriviera

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Czar
I like the L counter but I think it should be going in the other end of the kitchen so it doesnt block the window

That's not a window, it's the only way I could figure to show an open walkway to the rest of the house. The other direction is the entrance to the mudroom.

How much space would there be between the L cabinets and the pantry across from it?

43"

I think that's going to be too tight, especially if you have a bunch of people in the kitchen and want to use the pantry? or is that a refridge?

oh and a tip. Take out one of the standard base cabinets and add a 3 drawer base. Nice for storing pots and pans.

 

archiloco

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instead of a fixed island maybe you can do a retractable bench, gives you the breakfast/preparing area when you need it, and folds back when you need the flow thru that area. i have done that in another kitchen and it works great, also the layout of the adjacent rooms might help in the decision making. by the way 43" is kinda bare min if you are going to fix a counter, and like you said if working on the oven it's going to be funny.....
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: archiloco
instead of a fixed island maybe you can do a retractable bench, gives you the breakfast/preparing area when you need it, and folds back when you need the flow thru that area. i have done that in another kitchen and it works great, also the layout of the adjacent rooms might help in the decision making. by the way 43" is kinda bare min if you are going to fix a counter, and like you said if working on the oven it's going to be funny.....

Yeah, I know. 48" is technically the minimum, I believe. I just wanted to break up the hallway that is our galley kitchen. I wish I could dump the inwall oven and cooktop and get a standard range, but we just bought them last year (before we knew we were doing any of this).
 

archiloco

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if i drop by my sisters house i might take a few pics of what we did, it broke up the space nicely......yeah that's the beautiful thing about working on your house, you never know what you want to do till you do it hehe.
 

iamwiz82

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I was thinking about moving the oven next to the fridge, but then I have to reposition the gas lines and 240V, which doesn't sound very fun to me.

EDIT: Was the pullout custom or did you find it at a cabinet maker?
 

archiloco

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I was thinking about moving the oven next to the fridge, but then I have to reposition the gas lines and 240V, which doesn't sound very fun to me.

EDIT: Was the pullout custom or did you find it at a cabinet maker?

custom.......i believe i will ask my brother in law, i did the design and he did the actual construction of it :)
 

iamwiz82

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There is just under 2' of clearance between the L and the in wall oven with the door open. Looks like it would be easy to work with, but I'm concerned that when we sell it others may find it odd.
 

DBL

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
There is just under 2' of clearance between the L and the in wall oven with the door open. Looks like it would be easy to work with, but I'm concerned that when we sell it others may find it odd.

I think that this is normally considered ok unless this is a very high traffic area. However, the placement of the oven there does strike me as a bit strange.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
There is just under 2' of clearance between the L and the in wall oven with the door open. Looks like it would be easy to work with, but I'm concerned that when we sell it others may find it odd.

I think that this is normally considered ok unless this is a very high traffic area. However, the placement of the oven there does strike me as a bit strange.

It's the only way to get to the back door of the house. If I removed the 12" cab next to the corner I would have more than enough room, but I am thinking that this is more trouble than it is worth.
 

Scarpozzi

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Originally posted by: tfinch2
No L.

It would be nice to have the extra storage, but it makes the kitchen too tight.
Agreed. L's look nice in drawings, but they can cause problems when you have a door open....or one person is working in the end of the L and someone else is standing at the sink...that kind of thing.

Keep in mind that lighting can make or break a kitchen. I just installed a couple of pendant lights in my kitchen and they made it look like a different room. (just pick tasteful ones)
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Originally posted by: tfinch2
No L.

It would be nice to have the extra storage, but it makes the kitchen too tight.
Agreed. L's look nice in drawings, but they can cause problems when you have a door open....or one person is working in the end of the L and someone else is standing at the sink...that kind of thing.

Keep in mind that lighting can make or break a kitchen. I just installed a couple of pendant lights in my kitchen and they made it look like a different room. (just pick tasteful ones)

Lights were done last year. I installed recessed instead of the god awful fluorescent, whic is now in my garage. We were also talking about putting indirect lighting above the wall cabs and soft lighting on the interior of the glass doors.

I really want the L, but I just don't know if it will work. :(
 
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Originally posted by: iamme
so, when's the MI ATOT cookout at the wiz's? :D

that would be a little too weird... i don't want internet people knowing where we live :p :eek: :D