Another good guy with a gun story.

[SlowSpyder]

Sad that the stats will never capture how many future crimes would be stopped if a perpetrator like this guy is shot dead.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/gun-owne...t-attack-after-hearing-blood-curdling-screams

Saved potentially four lives, who knows.

 

[UNCjigga]

Chantix saves more lives than guns. Just saying.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Excellent. We need hundreds of thousands of protesters armed and headed to the WH. I support your position in their name.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Chantix saves more lives than guns. Just saying.

Possibly. Smoking kills SO many more than guns that even if Chantix dropped that number by 5% it'd be a huge amount of lives saved. But, guns are used 10's of thousands of times a year to legally stop crimes, how many lives are saved would be hard to quantify.

 

[soundforbjt]

Possibly. Smoking kills SO many more than guns that even if Chantix dropped that number by 5% it'd be a huge amount of lives saved. But, guns are used 10's of thousands of times a year to legally stop crimes, how many lives are saved would be hard to quantify.

Got actual documented peer reviewed info to back that statement up?

 

[fskimospy]

Got actual documented peer reviewed info to back that statement up?

To be clear, the empirical evidence shows that guns are used VASTLY more frequently to commit crimes than to prevent them.

More interestingly, it also shows that many of the uses that gun owners describe as preventing crimes are actually crimes in and of themselves.

https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/6/4/263

Results—Even after excluding many reported firearm victimizations, far more survey respondents report having been threatened or intimidated with a gun than having used a gun to protect themselves. A majority of the reported self defense gun uses were rated as probably illegal by a majority of judges. This was so even under the assumption that the respondent had a permit to own and carry the gun, and that the respondent had described the event honestly.

When people recount events like this they generally try and put their actions in the most favorable light. Even taking what they said at face value more than half of the 'defensive' uses of a gun were really just the gun owner committing a crime.

lol.

 

[soundforbjt]

To be clear, the empirical evidence shows that guns are used VASTLY more frequently to commit crimes than to prevent them.

More interestingly, it also shows that many of the uses that gun owners describe as preventing crimes are actually crimes in and of themselves.

https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/6/4/263



When people recount events like this they generally try and put their actions in the most favorable light. Even taking what they said at face value more than half of the 'defensive' uses of a gun were really just the gun owner committing a crime.

lol.

You just took all the fun out of it...

 

[SlowSpyder]

Got actual documented peer reviewed info to back that statement up?

Let me Google that for you.

 

[Sunburn74]

Sad that the stats will never capture how many future crimes would be stopped if a perpetrator like this guy is shot dead.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/gun-owne...t-attack-after-hearing-blood-curdling-screams

Saved potentially four lives, who knows.

Good. Glad he did intervene, rather than ignoring someone in help and doing nothing
However, he might have accomplished the same thing with a baseball bat or even simply by walking by with a cell phone and talking with a threatening voice.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Good. Glad he did intervene, rather than doing nothing
However, he might have accomplished the same thing with a baseball bat or even simply by walking by with a cell phone.

Phone in one hand cigarette in the other. Godlike.

 

[Sunburn74]

Most criminals try not to commit crimes when being directly watched, or being directly recorded or if there are evidence the police are being actively called.
Sure a gun works, but its not like its the only solution to stopping a crime.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Good. Glad he did intervene, rather than ignoring someone in help and doing nothing
However, he might have accomplished the same thing with a baseball bat or even simply by walking by with a cell phone and talking with a threatening voice.

And maybe the woman would have found her true inner strength and fought him off when the adrenaline kicked in and she was in a fight for her life. Or maybe Superman is real and would have saved her. Anything can be anything, here's what happened.

 

[Kwatt]

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cdc-study-use-firearms-self-defense-important-crime-deterrent

“Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was ‘used’ by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies,” the CDC study, entitled “Priorities For Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence,” states.

The Institute of Medicine and the National Research Council released the results of their research through the CDC last month. Researchers compiled data from previous studies in order to guide future research on gun violence, noting that “almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year.”

.

 

[Sunburn74]

And maybe the woman would have found her true inner strength and fought him off when the adrenaline kicked in and she was in a fight for her life. Or maybe Superman is real and would have saved her. Anything can be anything, here's what happened.

All I'm saying is lots of crimes are stopped just by someone walking by.
I have no problem that he used a gun and I'm glad the case was resolved appropriately, but this particular case is not a convincing argument that the gun was the key factor in the perpetrator ultimately being arrested.

 

[HomerJS]

Since death by gun suicide exceeds death by gun homicide, what's the point?

If you change the characters to a black man with a gun running to help a white woman if the police saw this, the black man would likely have been shot

Just ask John Crawford and Tamir Rice. Both killed by police in open carry states.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Never forget that the 3rd leading cause of death in the United States is:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html

• "A recent Johns Hopkins study claims more than 250,000 people in the U.S. die every year from medical errors. Other reports claim the numbers to be as high as 440,000.
• Medical errors are the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

Make sure you thank a medical professional.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Excellent. We need hundreds of thousands of protesters armed and headed to the WH. I support your position in their name.

I'm pretty sure the gun laws in the District of Columbia are far too strict to allow this to happen legally.

 

[nickqt]

Never forget that the 3rd leading cause of death in the United States is:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html

• "A recent Johns Hopkins study claims more than 250,000 people in the U.S. die every year from medical errors. Other reports claim the numbers to be as high as 440,000.
• Medical errors are the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

Make sure you thank a medical professional.

So, you're arguing that doctors are a'out to getcha?

Pray to Jesus/Strongman Trump, and stay out of hospitals.

Sounds just about right to me.

 

[Stopsignhank]

My daughter knew one of the girls that died at she school shooting at her school (UCSB) and she heard the gun shots of the shooting that happened a mile from our house tonight where 11 people were shot https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/08/us/thousands-oaks-california-bar-shooting/index.html So let me just say FUCK YOU and your "good gun" stories.

 

[ch33zw1z]

So, you're arguing that doctors are a'out to getcha?

Pray to Jesus/Strongman Trump, and stay out of hospitals.

Sounds just about right to me.

He's lining up the "who needs healthcare anyways?" Angle. Trump care all around.

 

[ch33zw1z]

My daughter knew one of the girls that died at she school shooting at her school (UCSB) and she heard the gun shots of the shooting that happened a mile from our house tonight where 11 people were shot https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/08/us/thousands-oaks-california-bar-shooting/index.html So let me just say FUCK YOU and your "good gun" stories.

Why do you hate America?

 

[amenx]

For every "good guy with a gun story" there are probably a 100 with not a good story.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Somehow the results would be different if that 9mm was restricted to a 5 round magazine? Did he use a bump stock or armor piercing rounds to stop the attacker?

OP even though you think all liberals want to ban all guns it’s not the truth.
Sensible limits on how many rounds a gun can carry, ban obvious stuff like bump stocks and armor piercing rounds and consistent background checks that are funded so they can be completed promptly. Penalties to a state employee that doesn’t complete the background check or load it into the system in a timely manner.

 

[SlowSpyder]

My daughter knew one of the girls that died at she school shooting at her school (UCSB) and she heard the gun shots of the shooting that happened a mile from our house tonight where 11 people were shot https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/08/us/thousands-oaks-california-bar-shooting/index.html So let me just say FUCK YOU and your "good gun" stories.

If she knew someone killed in the Nice terror attack (killed by a vehicle), would you be angry at a good guy with a truck saving lives story? Don't be such an emotional wreck, use logic.

 

[HomerJS]

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