Another Dem Chariman bites the dust due to Voting Fraud

cybrsage

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The chairman of the Indiana Democratic Party announced his resignation Monday, as investigators probe allegations of election fraud stemming from the 2008 Democratic presidential primary.
Dan Parker, who served for seven years, did not cite the scandal as a reason for his decision. But the uproar over possible fraud in a race for the White House has already claimed the job of one county Democratic Chairman, who sources say was forced out because of the allegations.


Numerous signatures on petitions that placed then-candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton on the party's primary ballot were allegedly forged and then certified by the St. Joseph County Voter Registration Office in South Bend.
St. Joseph County Prosecutor Mike Dvorak has launched an investigation.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...esigns-as-fraud-probe-heats-up/#ixzz1gMJQSmkx
 
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thraashman

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Oh great, now Republicans are going to try to use this to do more voter disenfranchisement measures aimed at rigging elections. Yay, let's disenfranchise 200,000 voters per 1 fraudulent vote we stop, that's the Republican way! (fyi, the numbers I'm citing aren't BS, they're based on actual studies and numbers and it's actually an even worse disparity)

And is it just me, or since it was obvious that Clinton and Obama were going to be on the ballot, does this just sound like someone was too lazy to actually go out and get the signatures?
 

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404 voter fraud not found. Odd cybrsage harps on the semantics of troops vs. brigade but can't distinguish between voter and certification.
 

EagleKeeper

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Voter fraud is stating that one votes or is eligible to vote illegally.

Petitions state that when you sign that you are legally eligible to vote on such an issue.

If one is not legally eligible one should not sign the petition. Putting names on such is vote fraud.
 

monovillage

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Isn't there still a rule about original commentary?

He'll probably edit one in after he stops laughing at the lefties trying to wriggle out of a story about Democrats getting caught yet again at vote fraud. or trying to deny it's even vote fraud or that the other kids did it too.
 

CallMeJoe

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He'll probably edit one in after he stops laughing at the lefties trying to wriggle out of a story about Democrats getting caught yet again at vote fraud. or trying to deny it's even vote fraud or that the other kids did it too.
Reading comprehension, Bucky.
There is no allegation of actual vote fraud; what there is, is an allegation that signatures on petitions filed in one county in Indiana may have been forged, along with an attempt to link the resignation by the state's Democratic Party Chairman to that investigation.
Further, despite thraashman's comment, I see no one claiming that any Republicans have ever committed the type of petition fraud alleged here.
 

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The Dem's are the biggest fraudsters when it comes to voting. I'll have to give the Republicans that (other than when Rutherford B Hayes stole the election from Samuel J Tilden). JFK clearly lost. Al Gore tried to defraud Bush out of the election--there is no legitimate way Gore won. Now this.
 

cybrsage

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404 voter fraud not found. Odd cybrsage harps on the semantics of troops vs. brigade but can't distinguish between voter and certification.

When you claim somesome says something they did not say, do not be surprised when you are shown to be wrong. I know, I know...sucks to not be able to purposefully misquote, but that is how it is.

And EK answered why I was correct in my statement.
 

fskimospy

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Voter fraud is stating that one votes or is eligible to vote illegally.

Petitions state that when you sign that you are legally eligible to vote on such an issue.

If one is not legally eligible one should not sign the petition. Putting names on such is vote fraud.

Voter fraud is voting illegally, it is not stating that you are eligible to vote when you are not.

Also, petitions are not voting and are subject to different statutes. Can you provide the statute from which you are determining that signing a petition that you are not eligible to sign is voter fraud? That would seem to fall under the false swearing laws that encompass a bunch of different things, not vote fraud. Generating false signatures would appear to be another violation, but once again, not vote fraud.
 

Thump553

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404 voter fraud not found. Odd cybrsage harps on the semantics of troops vs. brigade but can't distinguish between voter and certification.

On top of that he treats accusations as convictions when not even actual charges were ever leveled.
 

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Voter fraud is voting illegally, it is not stating that you are eligible to vote when you are not.

Also, petitions are not voting and are subject to different statutes. Can you provide the statute from which you are determining that signing a petition that you are not eligible to sign is voter fraud? That would seem to fall under the false swearing laws that encompass a bunch of different things, not vote fraud. Generating false signatures would appear to be another violation, but once again, not vote fraud.

the irony is of course that it is the Republican Sec of State of Indiana that is currently INDICTED on felony voter fraud charges.
http://posttrib.suntimes.com/news/7...s-voter-fraud-trial-postponed-to-january.html
 

cybrsage

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On top of that he treats accusations as convictions when not even actual charges were ever leveled.

Sigh....why do you invent things which do not exist, then proceed to attack those things as if they actually exist? Is it because it is easier to attack things you invent?

He resigned due to the allegations of fraud. Did he resign because of a conviction? Hmmm...looking over my post I do not see that at all...I wonder why?

Oh yeah, because you invented it. Almost forgot.
 

WHAMPOM

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So cybrsage after linking a faux/news? article of innuendo you think you scored a point? LOL!
 

CallMeJoe

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Sigh....why do you invent things which do not exist, then proceed to attack those things as if they actually exist? Is it because it is easier to attack things you invent?
The delicious irony considering:
He resigned due to the allegations of fraud. Did he resign because of a conviction? Hmmm...looking over my post I do not see that at all...I wonder why?
Oh yeah, because you invented it. Almost forgot.
There is nothing in the article that states the chairman was even under investigation in the petition fraud case, which involved one county, not the state party organization.
The author leaps to the conclusion that the resignation must have been because of the fraud investigation, but he does not directly connect the party chairman to the fraud allegation in any way, shape, or form.

Are you also new at this 'reading comprehension' thing?
 

Jhhnn

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Are you also new at this 'reading comprehension' thing?

Apparently so. He seems to expert wrt confirmation bias, however.

And, uhh, "voter fraud" is committed when a person votes illegally, apparently a very rare thing. Only a voter can commit voter fraud. What apparently happened in this case is clearly a form of election fraud, and a rather small one at that.
 

EagleKeeper

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Isn't there still a rule about original commentary?

That requirement was lifted some time ago.

It was to much work to determine if it was commentary or just BS to fill the requirement.

Then some topics really did not need commentary/original though

Or the fact that the thread title is inaccurate. Even the biased article he linked doesn't characterize it as voter fraud.
2/3 of the politic topics here could be closed down due to misleading titles.
some of the titles are from the poster trying to stir up controversy, the others are from a biased article than matches the OP viewpoint.



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