Another cop abuse case caught on video

[xBiffx]

It will change.

Either they start firing these bad cops or we are going to have more riots, and cities are going to go broke paying out huge settlements to the victims. Money talks. Look at Baltimore. Millions of dollars in damages. Whose going to pay for it? The taxpayers.

Hope so. This guy shouldn't have been put back on patrol. Of course, that doesn't stop the million dollar lawsuit in the first place but is sure prevents it from happening again.

 

[Jaskalas]

You cop haters need to pick your battles better.

*cough

 

[xBiffx]

Love it. Someone says the exact same thing on the first page of comments yet I get the brunt of dipshit replies. You guys are real winners.

/priceisrightloser.wav

 

[Mai72]

Hope so. This guy shouldn't have been put back on patrol. Of course, that doesn't stop the million dollar lawsuit in the first place but is sure prevents it from happening again.

Here is something that wasn't talked about concerning the Baltimore riots.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...bdf260-eeac-11e4-a55f-38924fca94f9_story.html

It was only a matter of time before Baltimore exploded,” wrote The Washington Post’s Michael A. Fletcher, a longtime Baltimore resident. The city, Fletcher wrote, “has been a combustible mix of poverty, crime and hopelessness, uncomfortably juxtaposed against rich history, friendly people, venerable institutions and pockets of old-money affluence.”

The gulf between the haves and the have-nots is large. Consider this, Fletcher writes: “More than half of the neighborhood’s households earned less than $25,000 a year.

 

[CZroe]

Here is something that wasn't talked about concerning the Baltimore riots.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...bdf260-eeac-11e4-a55f-38924fca94f9_story.html

"Not talked about?" Are you kidding? People have been tripping over themselves to present that excuse all along.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

I have zero chance of being killed by a cop. So it is not a fact. Wanna know why? I am not a criminal. I had my run in with the law, was arrested a few times. Learned my lesson, and have been clean for over 20 years. If confronted by a cop, I'll do what he says, because I did nothing wrong. I certainly won't run. I won't resist, or do anything else stupid.

All the innocent black men that have been killed recently would disagree with your statement. Plenty of innocent people getting killed by police, maybe you haven't been listening to the news?

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

You cop haters need to pick your battles better. About the only thing wrong here was the decision to let this guy return to patrol division, well to return at all for that matter. Other than that, I don't see anything wrong with how this was handled.

I do however see a problem with convening another grand jury on the exact same evidence. Unless this story conveniently leaves out some of those details, I'm not exactly sure how a second grand jury was even allowed to consider this just because the first didn't return the decision the now serving Attorney General wants.

Oh and body camera's weren't an issue here, nor would they stop things like this from happening. Its a nice red herring though.

So you are claiming that a cop assaulting an innocent man (kicking him in the head for NO REASON) is OK, and the fact that the 1st GJ didn't indict him is correct and proper?

Is that really what you are saying? Because wow, that is batshit insane.

The cop clearly committed a crime in full view of other cops. He should have been arrested. The fact the other cops didn't report means they should all be disciplined as well.

What is your defense of the cop? He was in fear of his life?

 

[xBiffx]

So you are claiming that a cop assaulting an innocent man (kicking him in the head for NO REASON) is OK, and the fact that the 1st GJ didn't indict him is correct and proper?

Is that really what you are saying? Because wow, that is batshit insane.

The cop clearly committed a crime in full view of other cops. He should have been arrested. The fact the other cops didn't report means they should all be disciplined as well.

What is your defense of the cop? He was in fear of his life?

Where did I say it was OK? FFS you people need to learn to read.

What I said is I don't like the idea of a subsequent AJ going back for a GJ indictment because the first GJ didn't return the decision he wants. Without any new evidence that borders on scary territory. Think about it. Anywhere, anytime, for any reason, anyone can be put before a GJ however many times it takes to indict them.

The first GJ decided. The cop wasn't getting off completely although, if you did know how to read, you would notice that I didn't agree with putting him back in patrol division.

/smh

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Where did I say it was OK? FFS you people need to learn to read.

What I said is I don't like the idea of a subsequent AJ going back for a GJ indictment because the first GJ didn't return the decision he wants. Without any new evidence that borders on scary territory. Think about it. Anywhere, anytime, for any reason, anyone can be put before a GJ however many times it takes to indict them.

The first GJ decided. The cop wasn't getting off completely although, if you did know how to read, you would notice that I didn't agree with putting him back in patrol division.

/smh

So you support the cop being free without punishment? Oooooookay.

We don't know if the the 1st GJ even saw this video. As been shown many times in these cop abuse cases, video doesn't always show up at first, because cops and DA's don't want to punish cops. Unless someone else finds video and releases it, it never gets seen.

Would that change your mind, or is it still OK for the cop to get off for committing a crime?

 

[xBiffx]

So you support the cop being free without punishment? Oooooookay.

We don't know if the the 1st GJ even saw this video. As been shown many times in these cop abuse cases, video doesn't always show up at first, because cops and DA's don't want to punish cops. Unless someone else finds video and releases it, it never gets seen.

Would that change your mind, or is it still OK for the cop to get off for committing a crime?

The guy is going to get sued into oblivion. I highly doubt the taxpayers are going to be on the hook for that. Also, he isn't going to be working as a cop for much longer.

You really need to stop with the bullshit. Just because his head isn't on a pike doesn't mean he is free of punishment.

You have anything that says the first GJ didn't see the video. It existed and was therefore evidence immediately following the incident. What makes you think they didn't see it? Or is that even more bullshit to further your little agenda?

Your cop-hate filled ragefest is getting the best of you.

 

[master_shake_]

Yeah, cause I said that.



Is that all you have? Because I don't think that applies to everything now does it. Pretty sure body cameras don't prevent a cop from kicking someone in the head. If you would like to show how a camera can stop that, go right ahead, knock yourself out.

you're right.

im sure they wouldn't stop a cop who planted evidence (tazer) on a person they shot and killed either.

but a cell phone video did...

so cameras work and you're an idiot.

 

[MrColin]

The hero cop was just trying to get home to beat his family.

FTFY

 

[Ackmed]

All the innocent black men that have been killed recently would disagree with your statement. Plenty of innocent people getting killed by police, maybe you haven't been listening to the news?

Resisting arrest, isn't innocent. Attacking an officer, isn't innocent. Running away from officers isn't innocent. Waving what looks like a real gun around a store while refusing to put it down, isn't innocent. Waving what looks like a real gun in a public park, isn't innocent.

Yes there are some extreme cases where innocent people have been killed by police. Not just black, but thanks for only listing them as the only lives that matter. More white people are killed by police than black.

The fact is, I have zero chance of being killed by police because of the reasons I listed. I do not commit criminal acts. I would not resist an officer if trying to put cuffs on me. I would not run away. I would not attack an officer. I would not be waving a gun around. Etc. I would comply and let the truth come out.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

The guy is going to get sued into oblivion. I highly doubt the taxpayers are going to be on the hook for that. Also, he isn't going to be working as a cop for much longer.

You really need to stop with the bullshit. Just because his head isn't on a pike doesn't mean he is free of punishment.

You have anything that says the first GJ didn't see the video. It existed and was therefore evidence immediately following the incident. What makes you think they didn't see it? Or is that even more bullshit to further your little agenda?

Your cop-hate filled ragefest is getting the best of you.

You really are displaying your ignorance aren't you? In almost every case cops are not able to be sued....the City/county/state gets sued, which means that the taxpayers have to eventually foot he bill, NOT the cop. That is cop law 101.

Don't you read ANYTHING about cop cases here or on the news? That's stated like every week. How fucking ignorant are you to state something so clearly wrong, and proudly proclaim it to be your belief? What irony.

So unless he gets charged, he continues to work as a cop, with no repercussions. After the first GJ didn't indict him, he went back to work! Sounds like no punishment to me. You have evidence that he was somehow secretly fined?

So again, are you OK with a cop doing that and getting away with NO PUNISHMENT? Because that is what happened after the 1st GJ.

It is entirely within the law to convene a 2nd grand jury to try to indict him, and I don't see why anyone would argue with that after seeing that video, given it was clearly assault. Do you disagree that it is a crime for a cop to kick a man and break his jaw for no reason?

I guess some people will always defend the cops when they are dealing with thugs.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Resisting arrest, isn't innocent. Attacking an officer, isn't innocent. Running away from officers isn't innocent. Waving what looks like a real gun around a store while refusing to put it down, isn't innocent. Waving what looks like a real gun in a public park, isn't innocent.

Yes there are some extreme cases where innocent people have been killed by police. Not just black, but thanks for only listing them as the only lives that matter. More white people are killed by police than black.

The fact is, I have zero chance of being killed by police because of the reasons I listed. I do not commit criminal acts. I would not resist an officer if trying to put cuffs on me. I would not run away. I would not attack an officer. I would not be waving a gun around. Etc. I would comply and let the truth come out.

Executing a kid in 2 seconds is a crime. No crime committed buy the kid.

Executing a man in a Walmart that is doing NOTHING illegal in 2 seconds is crime. no crime committed by the man.

Don't forget the SC trooper that shot a black man for following his orders to get his drivers license. No crime committed there, well the cop committed a couple of crimes, but the civilian didn't.

I can keep going on and on, but you seem to have a distorted view of the facts. Not surprised. Bigotry and racism is a powerful motive to hate people.

Needless to say, in your world, people have no rights and must bow down before their police masters and do whatever they want, because the cops have every right to beat you are kill you otherwise. What a nice authoritative world you live in. I think North Korea would be more to your liking. They get to kill anyone they want, sounds like a something you would like, until they kill you of course.

 

[child of wonder]

Executing a kid in 2 seconds is a crime. No crime committed buy the kid.

Executing a man in a Walmart that is doing NOTHING illegal in 2 seconds is crime. no crime committed by the man.

Don't forget the SC trooper that shot a black man for following his orders to get his drivers license. No crime committed there, well the cop committed a couple of crimes, but the civilian didn't.

I can keep going on and on, but you seem to have a distorted view of the facts. Not surprised. Bigotry and racism is a powerful motive to hate people.

Needless to say, in your world, people have no rights and must bow down before their police masters and do whatever they want, because the cops have every right to beat you are kill you otherwise. What a nice authoritative world you live in. I think North Korea would be more to your liking. They get to kill anyone they want, sounds like a something you would like, until they kill you of course.

There have definitely been innocent or non-dangerous black men assaulted and killed by police officers in the last few years, such as Eric Garner and Freddie Gray, but let's not use cases where force was justified, like Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown, as examples of that, which too many are quick to do before analyzing the facts.

 

[CZroe]

Executing a kid in 2 seconds is a crime. No crime committed buy the kid.

Executing a man in a Walmart that is doing NOTHING illegal in 2 seconds is crime. no crime committed by the man.

Don't forget the SC trooper that shot a black man for following his orders to get his drivers license. No crime committed there, well the cop committed a couple of crimes, but the civilian didn't.

I can keep going on and on, but you seem to have a distorted view of the facts. Not surprised. Bigotry and racism is a powerful motive to hate people.

Needless to say, in your world, people have no rights and must bow down before their police masters and do whatever they want, because the cops have every right to beat you are kill you otherwise. What a nice authoritative world you live in. I think North Korea would be more to your liking. They get to kill anyone they want, sounds like a something you would like, until they kill you of course.

Scream "racism!" when you're losing your argument. Love it!

 

[xBiffx]

you're right.

im sure they wouldn't stop a cop who planted evidence (tazer) on a person they shot and killed either.

but a cell phone video did...

so cameras work and you're an idiot.

Nice strawman you got there. Funny, I'm the idiot yet you're the one who can't discern the difference between a police body camera and a civilian cell phone. Thanks for the laugh, bubble head.

 

[xBiffx]

[Useless drivel]

It is entirely within the law to convene a 2nd grand jury to try to indict him, and I don't see why anyone would argue with that after seeing that video, given it was clearly assault. Do you disagree that it is a crime for a cop to kick a man and break his jaw for no reason?

I guess some people will always defend the cops when they are dealing with thugs.

Again, you bring nothing but insults and cop hate filled rage. Do you know that the first grand jury didn't see that video? I don't see that being reported anywhere and it would be extremely doubtful seeing is how the video was available at that time. No one has even mentioned a cover up by the police department by withholding evidence, namely the dash cam video, so your claims are pretty far fetched.

I don't agree that it is a crime for a cop to kick a man and subsequently break their jaw given the right circumstances. Clearly, you think this was for no reason, so there really isn't a point in debating. You suffer from huge bias in that anytime a cop does something you consider wrong, they did it for no reason. Sorry, but when a would be armed criminal isn't obeying your commands, that's reason, whether you like it or not. I still think this cop took it too far, but in general, a cop has a lot more leeway that you or I when it comes to doing their job.

I haven't ever defended this cop's actions. Just questioned the slippery slope whereas any subsequent AJ can convene a GJ when a previous one that was convened by their predecessor didn't return the indictment they wanted. That's essentially rule of man and its politics, nothing more. But hey, go ahead with more of your cop hate ragefest and ignore the facts.

 

[master_shake_]

Nice strawman you got there. Funny, I'm the idiot yet you're the one who can't discern the difference between a police body camera and a civilian cell phone. Thanks for the laugh, bubble head.

camera is a camera.

without camera hero cop,

with camera murderer.

 

[soundforbjt]

There have definitely been innocent or non-dangerous black men assaulted and killed by police officers in the last few years, such as Eric Garner and Freddie Gray, but let's not use cases where force was justified, like Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown, as examples of that, which too many are quick to do before analyzing the facts.

He didn't.

 

[Ackmed]

Executing a kid in 2 seconds is a crime. No crime committed buy the kid.

Executing a man in a Walmart that is doing NOTHING illegal in 2 seconds is crime. no crime committed by the man.

Don't forget the SC trooper that shot a black man for following his orders to get his drivers license. No crime committed there, well the cop committed a couple of crimes, but the civilian didn't.

I can keep going on and on, but you seem to have a distorted view of the facts. Not surprised. Bigotry and racism is a powerful motive to hate people.

Needless to say, in your world, people have no rights and must bow down before their police masters and do whatever they want, because the cops have every right to beat you are kill you otherwise. What a nice authoritative world you live in. I think North Korea would be more to your liking. They get to kill anyone they want, sounds like a something you would like, until they kill you of course.

If you don't think that the two "toy guns" didn't looked real, then you are either lying or just not very smart. The walmart case, the guy was told to put the gun down. He didn't. Don't go waving what looks like an assault weapon around a public store, disobey orders to put it down and expect it to go your way. Same for the kid in the park. The orange tip was taken off of it. It is there for a reason. Piss poor parenting is to blame, but of course they deflected the blame.

Calling me a racist and bigot is funny. You have no idea about my background, or life. So again I have no chance of being killed by police because of the previous reasons I listed.

There have definitely been innocent or non-dangerous black men assaulted and killed by police officers in the last few years, such as Eric Garner and Freddie Gray, but let's not use cases where force was justified, like Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown, as examples of that, which too many are quick to do before analyzing the facts.

Neither of them were innocent or non violent. Garner was arrested 30 times prior, including assault. He was breaking the law at the time the officers attempted to put him under arrest. He resisted. Didn't work out well for him. Gray has been arrested 18 times, at only age 25. Including second degree assault (multiple times). Obviously not "non-dangerous". If you're going to hang your hat one a case, pick a better one. Both career criminals, with a violent past. But like always, they were getting their life back together, they were good people, everyone loved them.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

Charges originally dropped?
I mean, why not. If you're not trying to kick their heads off your not doing a very good job.

man they always drop charges unless theres a viral video, cuz ya know, if there isnt a viral video, the "suspect" went for the cops gun and he feared for his life and just did what his training taught him to do

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Scream "racism!" when you're losing your argument. Love it!

Plenty of video that backs up my point...black and white people getting killed by cops while 100% innocent.

Feel free to point prove me wrong with the cases I pointed out that the dead people committed a crime.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Again, you bring nothing but insults and cop hate filled rage. Do you know that the first grand jury didn't see that video? I don't see that being reported anywhere and it would be extremely doubtful seeing is how the video was available at that time. No one has even mentioned a cover up by the police department by withholding evidence, namely the dash cam video, so your claims are pretty far fetched.

I don't agree that it is a crime for a cop to kick a man and subsequently break their jaw given the right circumstances. Clearly, you think this was for no reason, so there really isn't a point in debating. You suffer from huge bias in that anytime a cop does something you consider wrong, they did it for no reason. Sorry, but when a would be armed criminal isn't obeying your commands, that's reason, whether you like it or not. I still think this cop took it too far, but in general, a cop has a lot more leeway that you or I when it comes to doing their job.

I haven't ever defended this cop's actions. Just questioned the slippery slope whereas any subsequent AJ can convene a GJ when a previous one that was convened by their predecessor didn't return the indictment they wanted. That's essentially rule of man and its politics, nothing more. But hey, go ahead with more of your cop hate ragefest and ignore the facts.

I'm pointing out you are a fucking idiot for loudly proclaiming "justice" by saying the cop will get sued, when the law says he can't. Do you like being totally ignorant of reality?

The fact that you are so ignorant of that basic fact, but will proudly tell that it's true shows all of us that you really know nothing, and are just another ignorant bigot troll.

So you are now claiming that cops have "leeway"? Can you quote the law that says they are allowed to break someone's jaw while not being accused of a crime and also following a cop's commands and while not being a threat?

We will all wait with bated breath for your new reason to let the cop off.