Another casualty in the war on Obama

[Gonad the Barbarian]

I said they dissed it. Notice from your own link.



They changed their original finding after new data.

So are any of you willing to change your position or is this car still "a piece of crap" because it suits your agenda?

 

[monovillage]

So are any of you willing to change your position or is this car still "a piece of crap" because it suits your agenda?

For my uses at the price it sells for it's a piece of crap and there's no chance i'd buy one. Your mileage may vary.

 

[boomerang]

The cost to benefit ratio only ever appealed to liberals. Why didn't you all run out to buy one?

There it is in a nutshell. Faced with failure, progressives again turn to bashing "the enemy". Blame is always placed at the feet of someone else, it's never met head on.

You wanted it, you got it, why didn't you buy it?

The right hates it because it took boatloads of taxpayer dollars to bring it to market, and it took boatloads of taxpayer dollars in the form of incentives to sell the few that did. Anyone with half a brain knew it was doomed to fail.

Hell, it would probably be cheaper to buy half a brain for progressives so we can nip these things in the bud from now on.

Imagine an administration pinning their hopes on electric cars while making electricity costs skyrocket at the same time. It's insanity to everyone but the progressive left. Progressives, grow-the-fuck-up. We can't afford to humor you anymore, we can't afford to keep trying to fulfill your childish desires. It's time for some tough love. You'll drag us all over the cliff if we let you and then you'll blame us for it.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Oh look, here's Rush weighing in:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/12/06/regime_covered_up_chevy_volt_dangers
GM trying to kill their costumers. I find it utterly shocking that all these attacks are coming from rightwing media sources, yet all the automotive media sources I find have overwhelmingly very positive things to say about the car. Yes, the rightwing conspiracy against the Volt is clearly tinfoil hat territory.

 

[monovillage]

You can always go and look at what the posters here in Anandtech's Garage have to say about the Chevy volt, i'm sure they're more knowledgeable about cars then the political guys are.

http://forums.anandtech.com/search.php?searchid=189507

 

[blackangst1]

I just cant get past the price. Hell for that price you could buy a nicely equipped Civic (thats also made in America) and about 150,000 miles worth of gas....

 

[Jhhnn]

I think the Volt failed on the basis of price.

OTOH, Righties hate anything Obama does because he's doing it, same as they hated Clinton. It's all identity politics, all the time.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

I think the Volt failed on the basis of price.

OTOH, Righties hate anything Obama does because he's doing it, same as they hated Clinton. It's all identity politics, all the time.

No doubt the price makes it a tough sell. But given how prevalent rightwing media is in "heartbeat of America" country, and how mercilessly they attacked this car, I suspect that had a serious impact on sales as well.

 

[Craig234]

It seems like a market failure - people offered a good product who are not making a good choice.

You can point at marketing, consumers, or the right-wing nonsense.

Chevy is to be complimented for the effort, helping lead the way.

 

[glenn1]

So are any of you willing to change your position or is this car still "a piece of crap" because it suits your agenda?

A grand total of 7,671 Volts sold last year, so evidently no one is buying them whether conservative, progressive, or any other political viewpoint. If the car was as great as you think it is, then people wouldn't give a damn what the Tea Party people said about it. Companies that are winners in the marketplace don't make up fantasy conspiracy theories when they release a product that's a dud; they take into account the feedback from the market and try again.

 

[glenn1]

It seems like a market failure - people offered a good product who are not making a good choice.

You can point at marketing, consumers, or the right-wing nonsense.

Chevy is to be complimented for the effort, helping lead the way.

Yeah, blaming the consumer is a great marketing idea.

 

[blackangst1]

Lame attempt to try and blame the Volt's failure on something other than the Volt.

The Volt is failing because of a vast right-wing conspiracy.

Tin foil stuff IMO.

Fern

Pretty much this.

 

[IGBT]

liberals only want you to judge them on their intentions not on their endless failed results.

 

[woodie1]

Really fascinating that one can blame the failure of a USA built automobile on politics.

It's not like any other car model has ever failed on its own merits.

Build it and people will buy it.

Fascinating I say.

 

[Craig234]

liberals only want you to judge them on their intentions not on their endless failed results.

All those bad things... like Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, the Civil Rights Act, the bailout ot the US auto industry, WWII...

Unlike the Republicans, with their great policies - trickle down economics, tax cuts for the rich, de-regulation of Wall Street, the Iraq war, trying to repeal the New Deal, etc...

 

[Puddle Jumper]

So are any of you willing to change your position or is this car still "a piece of crap" because it suits your agenda?

It's a piece of crap because it costs twice as much as a Prius C and only gets marginally better fuel economy.

I don't see your point unless you think anyone capable of doing math is automatically on the far right.

Aside from the cost the volt is also slow, hideous and boring if you needed even more incentive not to get one.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Yeah, clearly the negative marketing of the rightwing media doesn't work.

 

[Matthiasa]

New tech is expensive. You're on a hardware forum, you should know this.

Umm... what new tech?
By the time it was actually for sale everything about it was already being done for thousands less by other car manufacturers.

 

[monovillage]

Yeah, clearly the negative marketing of the rightwing media doesn't work.

Are you driving one? Are you driving a fucking Volt?

 

[Puddle Jumper]

Yeah, clearly the negative marketing of the rightwing media doesn't work.

So why should anyone buy a Volt over a Prius C? If we have all been misled by the rightwing media this is your chance to set us strait.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Are you driving one? Are you driving a fucking Volt?

Every time I drive my girlfriend to Planned Parenthood for an abortion.

 

[glenn1]

So are any of you willing to change your position or is this car still "a piece of crap" because it suits your agenda?

Look, I know that progressives really, really wanted this car to be a success, and believed in it enough to throw billions of dollars in the direction of a flailing GM. But let's face it, the reality of what got delivered didn't match the reality of what you were sold on. Sorry that you don't have a wondercar to throw in the faces of skeptical conservatives, but maybe this will serve as a lesson to not listen to the silver tongues of snake oil salesmen, whether they be on a used car lot or in the executive boardrooms of Detroit.

 

[a777pilot]

$39,145 MSRP
/thread

....and that is with all the government rebates.

LOL!

Republicans and most Americans don't hate innovation, they hate high prices for shoddy products.

 

[monovillage]

Every time I drive my girlfriend to Planned Parenthood for an abortion.

You're probably like me in that the cost and design doesn't fill what you need, so you don't own one. It wasn't a right wing conspiracy, it wasn't the evil Republicans,it was the fact it cost so much and had limited value.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

So why should anyone buy a Volt over a Prius C? If we have all been misled by the rightwing media this is your chance to set us strait.

Because the Volt can end terrorism:
http://www.thechargingpoint.com/news/Fox-News-does-a-Chevy-Volt-face.html