Another case for pedophile execution...

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http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/...children.ap/index.html

Children fed 'silly pills,' forced to perform sex shows

* Story Highlights
* Defendants convicted of grooming kids for sex shows in "kindergarten" classes
* They gave Vicodin to the kids and called the drugs "silly pills"
* Residents thought there were swinger parties going on; didn't know children involved
* The kids are now in therapy, a Texas Child Protective Services caseworker says
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MINEOLA, Texas (AP) -- In the windowless front rooms of a former day care center in a tiny Texas community, children as young as 5 were fed powerful painkillers they knew as "silly pills" and forced to perform sex shows for a crowd of adults.

Two people have already been convicted in the case. Now a third person with ties to the club, previously known in town only as a swingers group, is set to go on trial Monday not far from Mineola, population 5,100.

"This really shook this town," said Shirley Chadwick, a longtime resident of Mineola. "This was horrible."

Patrick Kelly, 41, is charged with aggravated sexual assault of a child, tampering with physical evidence and engaging in organized criminal activity.

In all, six adults have been charged in connection with the case, including a parent of the three siblings involved.

Jurors this year deliberated less than five minutes before returning guilty verdicts against the first two defendants, who were accused of grooming the kids for sex shows in "kindergarten" classes and passing off Vicodin as "silly pills" to help the children perform.

Jamie Pittman and Shauntel Mayo were sentenced to life in prison. Kelly also faces a life sentence if convicted, and Smith County prosecutors hope for another swift verdict.

Thad Davidson, Kelly's attorney, said his client passed a lie-detector test proving his innocence and worries about getting a fair trial in Tyler, 25 miles southeast of Mineola, which is in Wood County.

"I think it's impossible to get a fair trial within 80 miles of Smith County," Davidson said.

Mineola, about 80 miles east of Dallas, is a close-knit, conservative bean-processing town of with more than 30 churches. Residents there want to put the scandal behind them as quickly as possible.

The one-story building where prosecutors say four children -- the three siblings, now ages 12, 10 and 7, and their 10-year-old aunt -- were trained to perform in front of an audience of 50 to 100 once a week has been vacant since the landlord ousted the alleged organizers in 2004.

Down a slight hill is a retirement home, and even closer is the office of the local newspaper. Doris Newman, editor of The Mineola Monitor, said rumors of swinger parties spread around town but that no one mentioned children being involved.

Newman, who can see the building from her office window, said she remembers the parking lot filling up with more than a dozen cars at night.

In August 2004, an editorial under the headline "Sex In the City" opined that if the swingers left quietly, "we'll try and forget they've infiltrated our town with their set of moral standards."

"It's not that we're trying to look the other way," Newman said. "But there's a lot more to Mineola than that."

According to a Mineola police report, the department first investigated a complaint in June 2005 in which the siblings' foster mother said one of the girls described dancing toward men and another child saying that "everybody does nasty stuff in there."

In the second trial, Child Protective Services caseworker Kristi Hachtel testified, "I've seen a lot and I never in my wildest dreams imagined this. They were preyed upon in probably one of the most heinous ways possible."

The children are now doing better, the welfare agency said.

"Through counseling and therapy sessions, these children are now finally feeling secure and safe," agency spokeswoman Shari Pulliam wrote in an e-mail.

Permanent custody of the three siblings was given to John and Margie Cantrell. This week, prosecutors in California charged John Cantrell with sexually assaulting a child in the state 18 years ago. Margie Cantrell said her husband is innocent.

Kelly's attorney moved Friday asking to postpone the trial in light of the allegations against Cantrell, a state witness. Texas Child Protective Services said it would be "common" for the agency to investigate.

The Rev. Tim Letsch is opening a church in the yellow-plastered building where the children were abused. He acknowledges that building a congregation might be difficult because of the stigma attached to the property.

"You got to decide whether you're willing to forgive those kind of things," Letsch said. "It's a hard deal. Especially for a spiritual person to walk in and say, 'This happened here."'

Absolutely disgusting is the fact it was done, whats worse is 50-100 adults sat together and watched it.
 

Grunt03

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this is very sick and I hope they not only catch all of them but each should suffer a painfull death.........
 

Robor

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Maybe I'm just harsh but I think they should be ground up and used as fertilizer.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Craig234
Nothing to do with a case for executions. It's a case for forced sterilization and hormone treatment.

Indeed.

Don't mind Craig. He has a history here of defending people convicted of child sex crimes.
 

jman19

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Craig234
Nothing to do with a case for executions. It's a case for forced sterilization and hormone treatment.

Indeed.

Don't mind Craig. He has a history here of defending people convicted of child sex crimes.

I think he's arguing against executions, not in favor of child molesters :roll:
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Craig234
Nothing to do with a case for executions. It's a case for forced sterilization and hormone treatment.

Indeed.

Don't mind Craig. He has a history here of defending people convicted of child sex crimes.

I think he's arguing against executions, not in favor of child molesters :roll:

Obviously. I was making a quip about his last thread he defeneded a man who admitted to distributing child porn.
 

Dari

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All this stuff is making me paranoid of leaving any child I have with someone other than my wife and our parents.
 

jman19

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Craig234
Nothing to do with a case for executions. It's a case for forced sterilization and hormone treatment.

Indeed.

Don't mind Craig. He has a history here of defending people convicted of child sex crimes.

I think he's arguing against executions, not in favor of child molesters :roll:

Obviously. I was making a quip about his last thread he defeneded a man who admitted to distributing child porn.

I had a feeling that was the case - so in other words, you were just trolling. Got it.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: jman19
I had a feeling that was the case - so in other words, you were just trolling. Got it.

And apparently you are doing even less. Got it.
 

StageLeft

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How do you even find friends to get together with for this kind of thing (that's a rhetorical question).

Still don't endorse execution. Just lock them away and have them make license plates until they die.
 

WHAMPOM

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This is in Texas, land of the self-righteous, I just wonder if it's not all a case of malicious manufactured evidence. History repeating itself again?
 

Wheezer

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I certainly hope that they have some stronger evidence than what is presented here. I am not saying that something like this is impossible, but a repeat of the hysteria of the 1980's would not be good just because of a few paranoid parents.

if it is true, hopefully these guys will burn in hell.
 

extra

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Man what in the world is with the nutty sensationalism on p&n lately? Oh noez, won't someone think of the children! Oh wait the creeps are going to get life in prison (if indeed they are convicted--you and I don't even know the whole story yet and neither does the jury--why the sensationalism?) There is a pretty good reason most of the civilized world has gotten rid of the death penalty. I also love the comments that are sure to come about how people hope they get raped in prison, etc, etc. Why? What possible good to society does that accomplish except petty revenge? Obviously people who do such awful things should pay for their actions by, in my opinion, never getting to see the outside of a jail for the rest of their life, but it seems to me like we should be hoping that they are given an environment where they can become repentant and perhaps do something meaningful with their lives while in prison. If people really believe that having that opinion makes you "in favor of child molesters" then I feel sorry for them.

And the article tries to associate swingers with pedophiles? Oooooo-kay.
 

jman19

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: jman19
I had a feeling that was the case - so in other words, you were just trolling. Got it.

And apparently you are doing even less. Got it.

I figure calling out a troll is better than *being* one. Would you like to have some input in to the topic at hand or just continue to be a total hack?

Anyway...

Emotional arguments aren't a reason for the death penalty, IMO, and I'm generally against state sanctioned revenge. That's not to say I wouldn't do something drastic if one of my kids was abused...
 

Rio Rebel

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Give them a fair and impartial trial, and do everything possible to ensure they receive a competent and just defense.

And if they are determined to be guilty, execute them and make sure that they never harm another innocent child. No malice, no emotion, but swift and sure justice.

No person who does this to a child should live to prey again.
 

Lemon law

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I am with Skoorb in not endorsing capital punishment. But even as a bleeding heart liberal who believes in the hope of rehabilitation, I am realistic enough to know that pedophiles have an almost 100% chance of doing the same damn thing once they are free. And its such a weird crime, we can all understand what motivates a bank robber,
but we are all, hopefully, totally baffled why anyone would get their jollies by doing something like that.
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Craig234
Nothing to do with a case for executions. It's a case for forced sterilization and hormone treatment.

Indeed.

Don't mind Craig. He has a history here of defending people convicted of child sex crimes.

I think he's arguing against executions, not in favor of child molesters :roll:

Obviously. I was making a quip about his last thread he defeneded a man who admitted to distributing child porn.

What do you think Rush Limbaugh was doing in child sex country with his Viagra?
 

Skitzer

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Craig234
Nothing to do with a case for executions. It's a case for forced sterilization and hormone treatment.

Indeed.

Don't mind Craig. He has a history here of defending people convicted of child sex crimes.

I think he's arguing against executions, not in favor of child molesters :roll:

Obviously. I was making a quip about his last thread he defeneded a man who admitted to distributing child porn.

What do you think Rush Limbaugh was doing in child sex country with his Viagra?

I don't know ...... why don't you tell us?
No speculation please, just tell us what you know to be the truth.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Craig234
Nothing to do with a case for executions. It's a case for forced sterilization and hormone treatment.

Indeed.

Don't mind Craig. He has a history here of defending people convicted of child sex crimes.

I think he's arguing against executions, not in favor of child molesters :roll:

Obviously. I was making a quip about his last thread he defeneded a man who admitted to distributing child porn.

What do you think Rush Limbaugh was doing in child sex country with his Viagra?
Limbaugh was in Texas with Viagra??

 

rudder

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Nothing to do with a case for executions. It's a case for prison.

I wholeheartedly agree. Provided they are placed within the general prison population and not afforded any special treatment.