Another Carnivale ship w/generator problems and non-working toilets

JEDI

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http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/14/travel/cruise-ship-trouble/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

The Carnival Dream had a generator failure while docked in the Caribbean. Power went out, toilets stopped working and no one was allowed to leave the ship

"There's human waste all over the floor," one passenger says

Carnival to fly passengers home after another cruise failure


wow.. just wow...
thats 3 so far for them (if u count the shipwrecked one off the coast of Italy)

oh, here's the kicker:
Guests on the current voyage will receive a refund equivalent to three days of the voyage and 50 percent off a future cruise.

not a full refund?! and not a free future cruise?
can u say PR nitemare?
 
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techs

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The same stuff happened in my apartment. Only I didn't call it a cruise.
 

Gibsons

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Probably due to disease risk - 5,000 people, from all over the world, living together in their own filth.
Seems the biggest disease risk is making people stay on an unsanitary ship.

I'd be highly motivated to leave, I imagine bribery could work on some of the crew.
 

GagHalfrunt

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I'd be highly motivated to leave, I imagine bribery could work on some of the crew.

I imagine tossing the captain overboard would work on the rest of the crew. Once the passengers storm the bridge and get rid of the highest rankings officers the others will be happy to allow the passengers to disembark.
 

Krazy4Real

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Haha... who the hell is doing the maintenance on these ships? Sounds like they need to change vendors.
 

OlafSicky

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So how much is the new CEO making and what is his name? Is this a publicly traded company?
 

Blackjack200

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They have obviously poo-poo'd the maintenance needed on these boats. But they should have kept it up, it's their duty.
 

bradley

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Eventually these ships will be mandated to carry a separate independent engine/generator room and bridge; it's a no-brainer. However, the entire cruise ship industry will balk at the huge loss in paying cu$tomer cabin $pace.... money over lives.
 

trmiv

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Never been on a cruise. Is Carnival like the Motel 6 of cruise lines?

"We'll leave the light on for you.....well if the ship has power."
 

Jodell88

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Eventually these ships will be mandated to carry a separate independent engine/generator room and bridge; it's a no-brainer. However, the entire cruise ship industry will balk at the huge loss in paying cu$tomer cabin $pace.... money over lives.
Umm did anyone die in these situations? I didn't think so.
 

bradley

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Umm did anyone die in these situations? I didn't think so.

The question in emergency management: would cruise ship passengers die under catastrophic generator failure while *thousands* of miles out to sea. The answer is very likely.

Anyway, I didn't create the mandate, blame the UN, cruise ships built after July 1, 2010, must have separate and redundant engine rooms. So my advice to prospective passengers, ask when the ship you're about to board was built as retrofitting old cruise ships is expensive. Simple.
 

waggy

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fuck going on a cruise. i will save money and fill a bucket with shit and stand in that.
 

lxskllr

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Never been on a cruise. Is Carnival like the Motel 6 of cruise lines?

"We'll leave the light on for you.....well if the ship has power."

I went on a Carnival cruise when I was about 12. From that limited perspective, I thought it was very nice. A little boring for a 12 year old, but no issues with services. That was a loooong time ago, so it may not reflect the current situation.
 

Jodell88

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The question in emergency management: would cruise ship passengers die under catastrophic generator failure while *thousands* of miles out to sea. The answer is very likely.

Anyway, I didn't create the mandate, blame the UN, cruise ships built after July 1, 2010, must have separate and redundant engine rooms. So my advice to prospective passengers, ask when the ship you're about to board was built as retrofitting old cruise ships is expensive. Simple.
It takes years to build a ship. There are only two ships in Carnival's fleet that can possibly be affected by that mandate. However, they were already being built so I find that unlikely. The next ship Carnival will have would be finished in 2016. So it is unlikely that they're any ships currently in operation that fulfills that mandate.
 

bradley

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It takes years to build a ship. There are only two ships in Carnival's fleet that can possibly be affected by that mandate. However, they were already being built so I find that unlikely. The next ship Carnival will have would be finished in 2016. So it is unlikely that they're any ships currently in operation that fulfills that mandate.

Umm... no kidding? which is my whole point. Are you saying you knew about the mandate.

BTW, the "safe return to port" mandate is for large ships whose construction started after July 2010, which includes: Carnival Breeze, Celebrity Reflection, Disney Fantasy, Oceana Riviera, Norwegian Breakaway, Royal Princess.

Otherwise only a handful pre-mandate ships have redundant engine rooms, including Royal Caribbean's Oasis and Allure of the Seas. I personally wouldn't take any other cruise ship.
 
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