Another black man shot in the back

[justoh]

I see an officer that acted professional
- Merg

professional isn't an adverb.

 

[WackyDan]

Yet Hunt family attorney Randall Edwards said the family had an independent autopsy conducted and it revealed that Hunt was shot six times — all from behind while he was likely running away from police

Those shots from behind him could be entirely legit and proper if they were from another officer that was behind him as he was attacking or threatening another officer. no outrage found as of yet until the full story comes out.

 

[WackyDan]

ROFLMFAO!!! You tell 'em bro. 6 shots in the back? And none of the cops are under arrest? You have gotta be kidding me. They literally can gun you down in the back and get away with it. It really doesn't matter.

They can absolutely shoot you in the back legitimately if the officer who shot him was behind him while he was threatening another officer.

 

[The Merg]

professional isn't an adverb.

professionally


Better?

- Merg

 

[The Merg]

They can absolutely shoot you in the back legitimately if the officer who shot him was behind him while he was threatening another officer.

Not saying this was the case here, but just pointing this out...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_v._Garner

In this case, the officer shot a juvenile in the back as he fled over a fence after burglarizing a house. While that shooting was not justified, the Court ruled that deadly force can be used on a fleeing felon in specific circumstances.

Deadly force is also authorized if there is imminent danger to the life of a person.

- Merg

 

[OutHouse]

shooting a fleeing felon in the back is not against the law.

I dont get why so many of you fixate on that.

"cops shot a guy in the back, OMG WTF!!! THOSE MURDERING PIGS!!!"

 

[HumblePie]

shooting a fleeing felon in the back is not against the law.

I dont get why so many of you fixate on that.

"cops shot a guy in the back, OMG WTF!!! THOSE MURDERING PIGS!!!"

Actually it is against the law unless the fleeing suspect is presenting a danger to others or can present on during his/her flight.

 

[mikeymikec]

For the thousandth time: Police cameras would completely remove any doubt one way or the other.

"Oops, did I accidentally obscure the camera?"

 

[OutHouse]

Would this work for you?

Officer responds for burglary in progress at a firehouse and sees subject coming out of the building.

Accusation:

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/video?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=10531378

Body Camera on Cop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9EYH72OMMI

- Merg

cop did absolutely nothing wrong in this. he had his hand on his gun but never drew it. that firefighter is a pussy.

 

[OutHouse]

Actually it is against the law unless the fleeing suspect is presenting a danger to others or can present on during his/her flight.

fail.

you are a texas gun nut you should know this.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Texas_man_cleared_for_shooting_neighbors_0701.html

"in Texas, the law gives you the right to shoot a person, even when they're fleeing from a property crime, and to kill them. And deadly force was what the grand jury determined in this case was appropriate."

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=5278638

"Both suspects were shot in the back," Pasadena Police Captain A.H. "Bud" Corbett said. "Not at the same angle, but both suspects were hit in the back."

 

[HumblePie]

fail.

you are a texas gun nut you should know this.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Texas_man_cleared_for_shooting_neighbors_0701.html



http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=5278638

For officers, they cannot shoot a fleeing suspect unless they present a danger to others. That was already upheld by a SCOTUS ruling.

A person can shoot a fleeing a suspect in Texas though that they think stole their property at night for example though. Two very different scenarios.

 

[werepossum]

They can absolutely shoot you in the back legitimately if the officer who shot him was behind him while he was threatening another officer.

Well, assuming the threatened officer also had a gun he'd be in much more danger from the cop "saving" him than from the kid.

I can accept that the kid lunged at them, but as he apparently had to circumnavigate the entire globe to reach them and he was on foot, I'd suggest that as self defense the shooting was a tad premature. Unless as suggested he was lunging backwards - in which case ending up 200' away seems a bit . . . odd.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

I can accept that the kid lunged at them, but as he apparently had to circumnavigate the entire globe to reach them and he was on foot, I'd suggest that as self defense the shooting was a tad premature. Unless as suggested he was lunging backwards - in which case ending up 200' away seems a bit . . . odd.

Now we're getting somewhere. The circumnavigation defense. He was coming right for me! Got within 24,000 miles.

You forgot the inception defense. Maybe he was lunging backwards....BACKWARDS. Like inception walking (bwwaaahhhh).

 

[bradley]

The bank where Darrien Hunt was first confronted by police has released their external surveillance footage to investigators. I'm anticipating an eventual video release to the media under Utah public records law, as this evidence cannot possibly be exempt from disclosure. This video will answer the question as to whether Darrien was actually threatening police and eventually shot from behind.

As for the motivation for walking streets with a weapon, several are claiming that Darrien picked up this cosplay sword (and clothes) in order to emulate the popular anime character Samurai Champloo. A recent nearby Utah Comic Con event had many attendees cosplaying (costume playing) with realistic weapons without a single shot fired. Several eyewitnesses have also stated, they never saw Darrien with the sword outside of its protective scabbard shell. Very damning if true.

 

[The Merg]

- in which case ending up 200' away seems a bit . . . odd.

Well, law enforcement is over-weaponized so their rounds are pretty powerful.

- Merg

 

[Pulsar]

All joking aside.
I think it is necessarily for the media to pursue the racism angle. If race was not a factor and the cops are innocent, so be it, the media looks like a douche.

But if race was a factor, and the media does not pursue it, then what happens?
Explore the scenario in which the neighborhood was racist, the police force was racist, and the police did murder the guy with his back turn. If the media did no pursue the race angle, then this will receive very little to no coverage. With very little national attention to this, it's very likely the local jury pooled from the same local racist pool along with the unwilling prosecutor makes a very nonchalant effort before declaring that the officers acted accordingly and are "not guilty." The injustice gets swept under a rug and nobody outside of the local community knows about it.

The media NEVER looks like a douche, because they have the bully pulpit. And as long as a big chunck of our population jumps to their feet and screams every time someone says white on black violence before they get the facts, it will continue being reported this way for ratings.

 

[werepossum]

Now we're getting somewhere. The circumnavigation defense. He was coming right for me! Got within 24,000 miles.

You forgot the inception defense. Maybe he was lunging backwards....BACKWARDS. Like inception walking (bwwaaahhhh).

Hey, they've seen Michael Jackson. They know those black kids might LOOK like they're running away but really they're coming right for us, Ned!

Well, law enforcement is over-weaponized so their rounds are pretty powerful.

- Merg

lol He lunged at me, so I shot him. With my grenade launcher. Why? Well - they gave it to me. They wouldn't have given it to me if I wasn't supposed to shoot people with it, right? Well - yes, in the back. He was lunging backward. Maybe he was spinning, like a ninja or something, I dunno. Honestly I wasn't really paying attention at that point. It was, like, let's shoot this kid already and get some wings.

 

[Darwin333]

Would this work for you?

Officer responds for burglary in progress at a firehouse and sees subject coming out of the building.

Accusation:

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/video?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=10531378

Body Camera on Cop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9EYH72OMMI

- Merg

In that case I think the body camera exonerates the cop. He seemed rather professional and even apologized to them for the scare. If I was that cop I would be very grateful for the bodycam.

 

[werepossum]

In that case I think the body camera exonerates the cop. He seemed rather professional and even apologized to them for the scare. If I was that cop I would be very grateful for the bodycam.

Hell, if I was a cop I'd buy myself a couple body cams in case my issued body cam fritzed.

 

[The Merg]

lol He lunged at me, so I shot him. With my grenade launcher. Why? Well - they gave it to me. They wouldn't have given it to me if I wasn't supposed to shoot people with it, right? Well - yes, in the back. He was lunging backward. Maybe he was spinning, like a ninja or something, I dunno. Honestly I wasn't really paying attention at that point. It was, like, let's shoot this kid already and get some wings.

That had me laughing out loud!

- Merg

 

[Pipeline 1010]

That had me laughing out loud!

- Merg

Was it an evil laugh? Don't lie.

 

[The Merg]

Was it an evil laugh? Don't lie.

Hahahaha... Cough... Cough... Cough...

- Merg

 

[bradley]

Interesting video in light of the shooting. Well done Michigan Police on properly diffusing a potentially dangerous situation.

Police negotiate with drunk open carry white man who asked police to shoot him. No charges.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-1UY9aMDWE


Yet another example of the unwarranted and rash use of excessive deadly force.

Cops Shot California Boy Seven Times In 10 Seconds Over Fake Gun, Investigators Say
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/ne...rnia-boy-7-times-in-10-seconds-over-fake-gun/

 

[The Merg]

Yet another example of the unwarranted and rash use of excessive deadly force.

Cops Shot California Boy Seven Times In 10 Seconds Over Fake Gun, Investigators Say
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/ne...rnia-boy-7-times-in-10-seconds-over-fake-gun/

How is this excessive? Let's just go by the information that has been released. I realize that since it is only coming from the police it is taken with a grain of salt, but that's all the info out right now.

Police respond for a suspicious person in a hoody and observe him with an assault rifle. They challenge him multiple times and the subject turns to face the officers and raises the weapon and points the barrel at them.

How long do the officers wait to see if the subject is actually going to fire the gun?

- Merg

 

[werepossum]

That had me laughing out loud!

- Merg

Glad to hear it.

Interesting video in light of the shooting. Well done Michigan Police on properly diffusing a potentially dangerous situation.

Police negotiate with drunk open carry white man who asked police to shoot him. No charges.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-1UY9aMDWE


Yet another example of the unwarranted and rash use of excessive deadly force.

Cops Shot California Boy Seven Times In 10 Seconds Over Fake Gun, Investigators Say
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/ne...rnia-boy-7-times-in-10-seconds-over-fake-gun/

Assuming their story holds up, how on Earth is that excessive violence? Gun looks real enough, and there are no vests which will reliably stop an AK bullet even assuming the bullets hit a covered area.