Another Appeal For Advice

IkeEisenhower

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Hello, again, and thanks for taking the time to read my silly little message. You guys have proven such a fount of knowledgeable advice per my previous case questionnaire that I thought I'd ask of you a few more questions. I'm looking for advice. I'm in the fledgling stages of planning to build a new PC, it'll be my first "from-scratch", and I'm at the point now where I'm compiling a list of what components I want to put into the machine. I still haven't made a decision on the case, by the way, but those 120mm LiteOn triples are tempting me, and so's that little red guy with the blue anodized aluminum Enermax and the pitchfork... But alas, I've already picked enough brains on that matter. Now I'm thinking about CPU and mobo cooling. I do not plan on overclocking the CPU, but I may tweak the memory side (hopefully, the memory will consist of two 512MB Corsair LL TwinX '3500s', if I can find them; if not, 3200s). I have two items on which I'd like your input:

I'm going to be building a 3.2GHz P4 system, and between the motherboards I'm looking at, two have a northbridge cooling system, and one doesn't, and I simply can't say from prior experience whether or not this makes much of a difference. In theory, certainly, but in practise? If, indeed, it makes a difference (if only in longevity, even), the fans on these boards (MSI MS-6758, Gigabyte GA-8KNXP Ultra) have been called rattly and loud by the big review sites, and in my experience more often than not that trickles down to me. You may have ten of these boards that make the sound of promises breaking, doesn't mean the one I get will be likewise quiet. So I want to know how easy it would be to replace these coolers with more efficient, quieter ones. Again, no one will ever see it, so I don't really care if it spells my name in silver cathode greatness, I care whether or not it's quiet and frozen. I'm aware of the Zalman solution, and wonder if anyone has experience with one. If so, if not, what would you do, what advice can you give me as far as doing it to my northbridge?

Second issue is the CPU itself. As I mentioned, it's a nice, hot P4, 3.2C. I don't want to use the stock cooler, and I have never installed a CPU cooler before. In fact, the idea of trying to get thermal paste evenly on something (after having buttered toast this many years) frightens me a little. But I need to know how, and I'll get there, tips appreciated. Anyway, what do you think the best way (aside from watercooling or the infamous cryo solution) would be for me to cool this processor down? Again, I do NOT plan on overclocking the CPU, but I still want it as cool as possible without sounding like a jumpjet. And at some point I'm going to have to grease it, any tips there? The Antec grease better than the others? A better one yet? A greasing tool, perhaps? What advice do you have for me on installation of the device? Am I just making more out of it than it really is? Tell me what you think.

Thank you all in advance for your replies, and thank you for taking the time to read through my post. Any replies appreciated.
 

JZilla

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Like you I am scared about thinking of applying grease on a cpu. But actually I dont think it is to hard. Instructions Arctic Silver is some of the best, I think. Some heatsinks come with a thermal pad, so you could just use that instead.

The hsf comming with 3.2C (in-a-box) should be really nice. A few words on it. If you want another cooler I suggest
Thermalright or Zalman.
 

dmw16

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Just go for it. The P4 covers all the important stuff so just put arctic silver on the entire heat spreader. If you really want a good heatsink I'd suggest either the Alpha 8942 or Thermalright SLK-800U or 900. Good luck.
-doug
 

cainsdive

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Originally posted by: dmw16
Just go for it. The P4 covers all the important stuff so just put arctic silver on the entire heat spreader. If you really want a good heatsink I'd suggest either the Alpha 8942 or Thermalright SLK-800U or 900. Good luck.
-doug

What he said. I ain't no big thing. I have had no exp. with the Thermalright SLK-800U or 900, but people rave about them. Like you I did my first build last year and worryed about such things, but it all worked good.;):beer::D
 

Alphanos

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If you're really worried about applying thermal paste, look into non-conductive paste like Arctic Silver Ceramique. That way even if you drop huge glops all over your motherboard it won't be ruined. I'm thinking of getting some just for peace of mind's sake.

I have no experience will Zalman's north bridge heat sink myself but I've heard it works very well and will be using one in the system I'm building for university in a couple of weeks:).

I'm also looking into which HSF to use on my new system. Currently its a toss-up between the Zalman CNPS-7000AlCu and the Thermalright SLK-900U with an 80mm Panaflow L1A fan. Both are supposed to cool very well with almost no noise. If you're not overclocking or looking inside much, the Thermalright solution's probably better for you. It cools very well and has a VERY secure method of mounting to the socket/motherboard, so there's not much chance of it shifting or damaging anything even if you toss your computer around a bit. The Zalman HSF looks much sweeter and cools a little bit better, if those are advantages for you. However, it doesn't mount as securely as the SLK.

Hope this helps:).
 

IkeEisenhower

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Thanks so much for your time and attention. Interesting that you note the Panaflow L1A; this was suggested to me as a replacement for stock case fans, and, upon inspection, these lack a tach wire, which yould eliminate them from service under a fan control system, I would think...?

Thanks for the pointer, I'm headed over that way. And thank you all again for your patience and encouragement in the matter.
 

Alphanos

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The main advantage of the Panaflow L1A is that its quiet already; no fan control needed. At full speed they're <25db.
 

amcdonald

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The panaflo's are pretty quiet at normal voltage (12v), but you can still use a rheobus (e.g. sunbeam's) to make them near-silent.
I just replaced all of my nmb's with panaflo's, and all 7 are hooked into one sunbeam rheobus.
If you are thinking of buying panaflo's, check out allelectronics.com
I just bought 6 for $34 shipped, which is a good deal considering these fans go for up to $9 elsewhere.
Also, those northbridge coolers work well.