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Anonymous rapes "security" firm investigating them for WikiLeaks related DDoSing

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AnonymouseUser

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The plot thickens. Seems that HBGarry was meeting with Bank of America to create a campaign to discredit wikileaks and their supports. They were trying to go on the offensive to help discredit them before the release of sensitive info about BOA.

You can read more here:
http://www.thetechherald.com/articl...roposed-a-systematic-attack-against-WikiLeaks

And here:
http://www.salon.com/news/wikileaks/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2011/02/11/campaigns

I had read speculation that the HBGary attack was as HBGary intended, basically a honeypot to catch Anonymous, but with all the info that has been released due to the attacks, that couldn't be farther from the truth. What we are seeing is a full-blown backfire, creating more supporters and strengthening both Anonymous and Wikileaks. :)
 

bobcov

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Nothing bad really happened to HBGary though, and AFAIK none of their emails were leaked.

HBGary Federal (a separate company which HBGary has a 15% stake in) was the company that got reamed. What's more, they didn't post all of HBGary Federal's emails, just all of the emails from the three top guys in that firm.

Parmy Olsen over at Forbes says the group is going to release HBGary email from Greg Hoglund. If that happens, you should look at the entire IRC conversation regarding those emails and the conversation between Anons and HBGary owners.

Also, HBGary was seriously compromised in the attack. Not as bad as Mr. Barr, who I imagine still cannot sit down, but still they were hit hard.

I've never seen such a mess as this one. We haven't seen the end of this. There are many ways it could go.
 

Dr. Zaus

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"Dude," responded Barr. "Anonymous is a reckless organization. C'mon I know u and I both understand and believe generally in their principles but they are not a focused and considerate group, the[y] attack at will and do not care of their effects. Do u actually like this group?"

The coder said he didn't support all they did, but that Anonymous had its moments. Besides, "I enjoy the LULZ."

wtf.... ars technica is win.
 

iGas

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Spy games: Inside the convoluted plot to bring down WikiLeaks -- Ars technica (awesome read)

IMHO, Anonymous did the world a great service by exposed corporate crime ring that was orchestrated by Barr & associates.
 

shortylickens

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Parmy Olsen over at Forbes says the group is going to release HBGary email from Greg Hoglund. If that happens, you should look at the entire IRC conversation regarding those emails and the conversation between Anons and HBGary owners.

Also, HBGary was seriously compromised in the attack. Not as bad as Mr. Barr, who I imagine still cannot sit down, but still they were hit hard.

I've never seen such a mess as this one. We haven't seen the end of this. There are many ways it could go.

Hey Pig! How ya been?
 

PlasmaBomb

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Nov 19, 2004
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HBGary's front page is pure damage control now.

HBGary has decided to remove our booth and cancel all talks at RSA Conference 2011

HBGary Statement regarding RSA Conference 2011

A group of aggressive hackers known as “Anonymous” illegally broke into computer systems and stole proprietary and confidential information from HBGary, Inc. This breach was in violation of federal and state laws, and stolen information was publicly released without our consent.

In addition to the data theft, HBGary individuals have received numerous threats of violence including threats at our tradeshow booth.

In an effort to protect our employees, customers and the RSA Conference community, HBGary has decided to remove our booth and cancel all talks.

HBGary is continuing to work intensely with law enforcement on this matter and hopes to bring those responsible to justice.

Thank you to all of our employees, our customers and the security community for your continued support.

HBGary, Inc.

Without this statement I would have thought that they pulled out to avoid having people laugh in their faces... glad they cleared that up.
 

bignateyk

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Apr 22, 2002
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hahahaha, "threats of violence". Suuuuuree.. I'll believe that when me shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert.
 

Zargon

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LOL at attempting to save face

hahahaha, "threats of violence". Suuuuuree.. I'll believe that when me shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert.

if they were my children I woulda smothered them with a pillow a long time ago...
 
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Phokus

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hahahaha, "threats of violence". Suuuuuree.. I'll believe that when me shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert.

It's the perfect excuse; they were thoroughly humiliated so they needed an out to get out of the conference. How do you even give a seminar at a security conference after what happened?
 

Duder1no

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The plot thickens. Seems that HBGarry was meeting with Bank of America to create a campaign to discredit wikileaks and their supports. They were trying to go on the offensive to help discredit them before the release of sensitive info about BOA.

You can read more here:
http://www.thetechherald.com/articl...roposed-a-systematic-attack-against-WikiLeaks

And here:
http://www.salon.com/news/wikileaks/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2011/02/11/campaigns

I read this some days ago, it seems BoA intended to go on to the offensive against wikileaks, it also exposes the magnitude of HBGarry's corruption, really interesting read:

After a tip from Crowdleaks.org, The Tech Herald has learned that HBGary Federal, as well as two other data intelligence firms, worked to develop a strategic plan of attack against WikiLeaks. The plan included pressing a journalist in order to disrupt his support of the organization, cyber attacks, disinformation, and other potential proactive tactics.
 

shortylickens

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That CMS issue was kinda silly.
The biggest flaw I see in many companies (not just HB Gary) is their insistence to hire someone to write special software for them when its not always necessary. Hynix and Tektronix both did this with their corporate computers and their machine management systems and it drove me nuts.
 

mcmilljb

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May 17, 2005
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That CMS issue was kinda silly.
The biggest flaw I see in many companies (not just HB Gary) is their insistence to hire someone to write special software for them when its not always necessary. Hynix and Tektronix both did this with their corporate computers and their machine management systems and it drove me nuts.

They are special therefore they have special needs ;)
 

Beev

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I hope everything in the end leads to BoA being absolutely fucked. Ideally they would lose all of their business and go boom, but that's not going to happen, unfortunately.