Anone have the Samsung 191T 19" LCD Monitor? Good for games??

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BS911

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My local Best Buy has a open box model of this for $550 which seems to be a great deal!

My only worry is that it won't be good for games; anyone have this model that can confirm this?

Thx!

BS911
 
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My only worry is that it won't be good for games; anyone have this model that can confirm this?
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That`s like saying how long is a piece of string ;) ,anyway it`s pretty good,I use mine for CS,TFC,DoD etc and don`t notice the ghosting on fast parts of the games unless I look hard and even then it`s only slight to my eyes.Like all things its really down to your own eyes and type of games you play etc but if you want or prefer a bigger screen rather then the smaller 17" LCDs that have faster 16ms then I think you`ll be happy.

Using DVI with V-sync on is the best settings to reduce ghosting with the Samsung 191T.

I`m happy with mine ,crisp & detailed with no dead pixels :).


 
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That's not that great of a deal (not terrible though). You can sometimes get the same monitor (Dell branded) for around that, and it was down to $470ish this past week.

Anandtech seems to think it's good, Tom's Hardware seems to think it's not that great for games (ditto for all the 19" LCDs). It sounds like it's competant as far as current 19" LCDs go though.

EDIT: Regarding those 17" Monitors with 16ms response, those only do like 18-bit color, right? So with those, aren't you almost better off just using 16-bit color in games, since you can't see the full range anyway?
 
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I'm not a big gamer, but I have never noticed a ghosting or slowness problem on Medal of Honor or Return to Castle Wolfenstein. Everything looks fantastic, too.
 
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I have both a 181T and a 191T, both rock for games and pretty much everything else...I love them!
 
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GnomeCop

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The 191T is an excellent lcd and not too shabby for playing games either. Just stick to DVI, and run the native resolution as much as possible to minimize trailing. Also I guess its a good thing (if you play games) that the native resolution is 1280x1024.... even on my 9700 pro I don't think all my games will run well at 1600x1200 all the time.

 
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technically don't CRT users have more an advantage on FPS twitch type games? if they pop out, its going to take 25ms (for like a 191T) longer for them to materialize on your screen than theirs. doesn't that mean you'd have fast enough reaction time to compensate for 25ms?
 
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KristopherKubicki

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Baboon: Actually it will take 15ms for them to materialize on the screen, and 10ms to dissappear. Assuming of course, that the "bad guys" are pure white on a black background. In reality, the grey to grey response time will be much higher.

It really doesnt have anything to do with how fast YOUR reaction time is, it just makes the screen kind of blurry and hard to tell details.

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Originally posted by: BS911
My local Best Buy has a open box model of this for $550 which seems to be a great deal!

My only worry is that it won't be good for games; anyone have this model that can confirm this?

Thx!

BS911
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Can you check it to make sure there aren't any dead pixels?
 
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I love my 191T. Never seen ghosting in UT2003 or any other fast paced games. I would never go back. It does look a TON better with DVI though, so if your video card doesn't have a DVI out you might be disappointed.
 
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Originally posted by: Mem
My only worry is that it won't be good for games; anyone have this model that can confirm this?
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That`s like saying how long is a piece of string ;) ,anyway it`s pretty good,I use mine for CS,TFC,DoD etc and don`t notice the ghosting on fast parts of the games unless I look hard and even then it`s only slight to my eyes.Like all things its really down to your own eyes and type of games you play etc but if you want or prefer a bigger screen rather then the smaller 17" LCDs that have faster 16ms then I think you`ll be happy.

Using DVI with V-sync on is the best settings to reduce ghosting with the Samsung 191T.

I`m happy with mine ,crisp & detailed with no dead pixels :).
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What's V-sync? I have the Planar PX191 (had it about a month). Haven't tried gaming but have watched a movie or two and some TV on it and I'm not sure how I like it compared to my NEC FP2141 CRT (22"). Sometimes I like the CRT better, sometimes the LCD. For text, the LCD blows the CRT out of the water. It has no dead pixels or subpixels which is more than I can say for the NEC, which has a dead pixel, although you'd never ever notice it if you didn't know where to look for it.

Got a mailer today from Dell in which they have the 1901FP priced at $650. I guess you have to know exactly how to buy from them or you pay way more than you need to.
 
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Muse,

VSYNC is a term used to describe how a graphics board renders and displays an image to the display. With VSYNC On, the graphics board draws one frame of a scene, and waits for the monitor to display it before starting the next frame.

With VSYNC Off, the board draws one frame, and then immediately starts on the next frame - whether the display is ready for it or not.
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V-Sync on you get no tearing or weird artifacts onscreen.

You can find the V-sync setting in your Nvidia/ATI control panel .




 
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Originally posted by: Mem
Muse,

VSYNC is a term used to describe how a graphics board renders and displays an image to the display. With VSYNC On, the graphics board draws one frame of a scene, and waits for the monitor to display it before starting the next frame.

With VSYNC Off, the board draws one frame, and then immediately starts on the next frame - whether the display is ready for it or not.
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V-Sync on you get no tearing or weird artifacts onscreen.

You can find the V-sync setting in your Nvidia/ATI control panel .
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In my Win2000 Control Panel I have an item called NVIDIA nView Desktop Manager. Is that where this is? There's an icon in my tray called NVIDIA Media Center. The Desktop Manager is available from there. I don't see V-sync yet poking around in these. I'm running driver version 45.23, WHQL I believe.

 
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fredtam

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I think the only place you will find it on the nVidia control panel is under the openGL tab. It may be under Direct3D also but I'm not sure.
On ATI cards its on both listed as "wait for vertical sync"
 
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Originally posted by: fredtam
I think the only place you will find it on the nVidia control panel is under the openGL tab. It may be under Direct3D also but I'm not sure.
On ATI cards its on both listed as "wait for vertical sync"
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I found it in my OpenGL settings. It was already "On by default." Never having set it, it obviously was ... on by default. Didn't see an OpenGL tab, though. In Display Properties, Settings/Advanced/Geforce4 Ti4200 where there's a fly-out called Performance and Quality Settings and under that is OpenGL Settings.
 
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