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Ann Coulter's final solution the Occupy problem: Shoot them

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davmat787

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The GOP has done no harm to our country? Haha you had me going there for a second. I thought you were actually serious.

I think he means:

Party A: OWS
Party B: Ann Coulter

Werepossum, please correct me if I am wrong but that is how I understood your comment at least.

But really, who cares what a hard core partisan pundit like Coulter thinks anyway? I am sure anyone even remotely familiar with her would know approximately what she would have to say in regards to OWS anyway. :rolleyes:
 

bfdd

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everyone knows she's a wise and beautiful woman, why give her more attention?
 

K1052

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The most important line in that story, "Colter, who has a new book out". That pretty much explains everything.

Yep, she always vomits out something like this to get attention when she has a new dogshit tome to hawk to the ignorant masses.
 

werepossum

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I think he means:

Party A: OWS
Party B: Ann Coulter

Werepossum, please correct me if I am wrong but that is how I understood your comment at least.

But really, who cares what a hard core partisan pundit like Coulter thinks anyway? I am sure anyone even remotely familiar with her would know approximately what she would have to say in regards to OWS anyway. :rolleyes:
Exactly right. I was not discussing political parties.

Ann Coulter is smart, funny and insightful, but she makes a damn good living by being an over the top partisan right winger. Being outraged at anything Ann Coulter says is like being outraged that Castro doesn't support capitalism - that's the very definition of her public persona.
 

UberNeuman

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Exactly right. I was not discussing political parties.

Ann Coulter is smart, funny and insightful, but she makes a damn good living by being an over the top partisan right winger. Being outraged at anything Ann Coulter says is like being outraged that Castro doesn't support capitalism - that's the very definition of her public persona.

? Really? What has she ever said that could be considered "smart, funny and insightful"?

She peddles garbage....

This idea of giving a free pass to low lives for selling this simple crap to other simple minds isn't an excuse for it...
 
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werepossum

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? Really? What has she ever said that could be considered "smart, funny and insightful"?

She peddles garbage....

This idea of giving a free pass to low lives for selling this simple crap to other simple minds isn't an excuse for it...
Read her column.

I'm sorry, that was cruel. Have someone read her column to you.

Bazinga!
 

UberNeuman

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Read her column.

I'm sorry, that was cruel. Have someone read her column to you.

Bazinga!

"These broads are millionaires, lionized on TV and in articles about them, reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by grief-arazzies. I have never seen people enjoying their husbands’ death so much." - Ann Coulter

I don't read garbage...
 

woolfe9999

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Exactly right. I was not discussing political parties.

Ann Coulter is smart, funny and insightful, but she makes a damn good living by being an over the top partisan right winger. Being outraged at anything Ann Coulter says is like being outraged that Castro doesn't support capitalism - that's the very definition of her public persona.

Yeah right, and if she was a liberal saying these things about conservatives, you guys would blow a gasket. Consider Jon Stewart, a left leaning comic, who more or less playfully pokes conservatives. He's nowhere near as offensive as this, and the right takes him very seriously, refusing to accept his explanation that he's a comedian.

The truth about Coulter is, while some people don't take her seriously, some people actually do. To claim otherwise is disengenuous. If it wasn't for hardcore liberal haters, she'd have no audience. It's a standard rationale for talk radio hatemongers to be labelled as comedians. I've heard the same claim made of Limbaugh many times. If this was all just comedy, these people would have a very different audience, or none at all. Whether she means it or not isn't even the point, because many of her viewers certainly do and she's well aware of that.
 
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shira

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"So at the moment anyway, I mean I don't know what's going to happen in New York today, but at the moment I'm not really worried of a movement like SDS which really swept a lot of the college campuses taking over. Of course if it does, just remember the lesson from my book: it just took a few shootings at Kent State to shut that down for good."


To which I would have replied, "Gee, Ann, it would take just ONE shooting to shut YOU down for good."
 
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werepossum

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Yeah right, and if she was a liberal saying these things about conservatives, you guys would blow a gasket. Consider Jon Stewart, a left leaning comic, who more or less playfully pokes conservatives. He's nowhere near as offensive as this, and the right takes him very seriously, refusing to accept his explanation that he's a comedian.

The truth about Coulter is, while some people don't take her seriously, some people actually do. To claim otherwise is disengenuous. If it wasn't for hardcore liberal haters, she'd have no audience. It's a standard rationale for talk radio hatemongers to be labelled as comedians. I've heard the same claim made of Limbaugh many times. If this was all just comedy, these people would have a very different audience, or none at all. Whether she means it or not isn't even the point, because many of her viewers certainly do and she's well aware of that.
That's the thing about Coulter - she is EXACTLY the same as her polar opposites like Jon Stewart. The big difference is that she openly trumpets her far right views, whereas Stewart hides behind being a comedian. She (I think) honestly is far right and uses over the top rhetoric to advance her views. Stewart (I think) honestly is far left and uses over the top rhetoric to advance his views - only, when called on it, he falls back on the excuse that it's just comedy, not politics. I prefer someone like Chris Rock or Bill Maher who is far left and admits it.
 
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Ann Coulter is, I think, a kind of performance artist, in that she has deliberately adopted a persona so obnoxious that it's tailored to get people's knickers in a twist. I give her the benefit of the doubt that she doesn't really mean the outrageous bullshit she spouts. Ultimately, though, I can't really respect a person who jokes about people's children being killed by drunk drivers, says that kidnapping victims probably enjoyed it, or, as in the present instance, suggests that shooting peaceful protesters is a good way of dealing with them. In any case I have long since chosen to click my personal "ignore" button when it comes to this particular C-word.
 

woolfe9999

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That's the thing about Coulter - she is EXACTLY the same as her polar opposites like Jon Stewart. The big difference is that she openly trumpets her far right views, whereas Stewart hides behind being a comedian. She (I think) honestly is far right and uses over the top rhetoric to advance her views. Stewart (I think) honestly is far left and uses over the top rhetoric to advance his views - only, when called on it, he falls back on the excuse that it's just comedy, not politics. I prefer someone like Chris Rock or Bill Maher who is far left and admits it.

The private ideologies of the two are essentially irrelevant. They are both media personalities but of a very different kind. Stewart is actually a comedian and Coulter is not. Stewart doesn't make "murder" jokes because he's actually a comedian and they aren't funny. Coulter makes "murder" jokes because she isn't a comedian, but rather a media personalty who collects money from people like Spidey who are pathologically hateful of liberals, and she uses the "humor" concept as a cover to keep her on the air. The bottom line is her viewers like her murder jokes because they hate liberals, not because it is clever humor. The point is easily proven by simply reversing targets - make conservatives the "victim" and all the sudden, nah, it isn't so funny any more. You can bet that not a single one of her fans would find similar comments targetted at conservatives the least bit funny. That's why it's hatemongering, not comedy.

- wolf
 

woolfe9999

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Ann Coulter is, I think, a kind of performance artist, in that she has deliberately adopted a persona so obnoxious that it's tailored to get people's knickers in a twist. I give her the benefit of the doubt that she doesn't really mean the outrageous bullshit she spouts. Ultimately, though, I can't really respect a person who jokes about people's children being killed by drunk drivers, says that kidnapping victims probably enjoyed it, or, as in the present instance, suggests that shooting peaceful protesters is a good way of dealing with them. In any case I have long since chosen to click my personal "ignore" button when it comes to this particular C-word.

You are way too kind, and probably going out of your way to come across as not being rattled by her hatemongering. I'm not especially rattled by it myself, but I can see it for what it is.
 

UberNeuman

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You are way too kind, and probably going out of your way to come across as not being rattled by her hatemongering. I'm not especially rattled by it myself, but I can see it for what it is.

why be rattled about it - she plays to a moron crowd that eats up Rush, Hannity and for the most part all of Fox "news"...

\I would have added Beck, but he's managed to get pushed out of the circle....
\\buy Gold now!
 

werepossum

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The private ideologies of the two are essentially irrelevant. They are both media personalities but of a very different kind. Stewart is actually a comedian and Coulter is not. Stewart doesn't make "murder" jokes because he's actually a comedian and they aren't funny. Coulter makes "murder" jokes because she isn't a comedian, but rather a media personalty who collects money from people like Spidey who are pathologically hateful of liberals, and she uses the "humor" concept as a cover to keep her on the air. The bottom line is her viewers like her murder jokes because they hate liberals, not because it is clever humor. The point is easily proven by simply reversing targets - make conservatives the "victim" and all the sudden, nah, it isn't so funny any more. You can bet that not a single one of her fans would find similar comments targetted at conservatives the least bit funny. That's why it's hatemongering, not comedy.

- wolf
Coulter makes no claim to be a comedian. Her core point is that liberals are unintelligent, morally flawed people. Making the same jokes about conservatives, Christians and Republicans is all of Maher's material, and much of Chris Rock's. I personally find Maher tedious and unintelligent, but I think Chris Rock is hilarious.
 

woolfe9999

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why be rattled about it - she plays to a moron crowd that eats up Rush, Hannity and for the most part all of Fox "news"...

\I would have added Beck, but he's managed to get pushed out of the circle....
\\buy Gold now!

Right, there's no reason to be rattled because she probably isn't even serious. Still, I don't think her brand of "humor" is very good for an already divisive political culture.
 

Craig234

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The story isn't Coulter saying something immoral and outrageous.

It's that people give her attention and reward her for doing so.
 

UberNeuman

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Right, there's no reason to be rattled because she probably isn't even serious. Still, I don't think her brand of "humor" is very good for an already divisive political culture.

I remember a day when people were judged by what they had to say.... It has meaning... Coulter isn't Kaufman...

\and Kaufman faced the price in his art..
\\Coulter panders..... to the stupid...
 

woolfe9999

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Coulter makes no claim to be a comedian. Her core point is that liberals are unintelligent, morally flawed people. Making the same jokes about conservatives, Christians and Republicans is all of Maher's material, and much of Chris Rock's. I personally find Maher tedious and unintelligent, but I think Chris Rock is hilarious.

You keep analyzing Coulter. I'm more concerned about her viewers. Spidey seems like the prototypical Coulter fan. It's kind of scary that there are enough Spidey's to make her rich.
 

Craig234

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Ann Coulter is, I think, a kind of performance artist, in that she has deliberately adopted a persona so obnoxious that it's tailored to get people's knickers in a twist. I give her the benefit of the doubt that she doesn't really mean the outrageous bullshit she spouts. Ultimately, though, I can't really respect a person who jokes about people's children being killed by drunk drivers, says that kidnapping victims probably enjoyed it, or, as in the present instance, suggests that shooting peaceful protesters is a good way of dealing with them. In any case I have long since chosen to click my personal "ignore" button when it comes to this particular C-word.

I normally prefer not to give her any attention, but I'll give you my opinion on this.

I suspect she may not 'believe what she says', saying it as the product she sells of outrageousness.

But I also think - and this is more important - that she may well not NOT believe it - i.e., a sociopath who views society as an ant farm she is amused she can make run around by poking it, and that she has no interest in whether the things she says are right or wrong, doesn't really have an opinion or care about it, just 'does her job'.

I suspect there's some bit of belief she has in what she says, but she might be pretty much just contemptuous of her customers, like a bad rock band for tweens.

She is a selfish, harmful creature who puts out hate to cater to a fringe market who wants hate without concern for its effects.

It's ironic, her targets are the good people who will tolerate her free speech and not execute her because of principles, while she hoots for executing her betters.
 
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You keep analyzing Coulter. I'm more concerned about her viewers. Spidey seems like the prototypical Coulter fan. It's kind of scary that there are enough Spidey's to make her rich.

That is a legitimate point. I think Coulter is manipulative and heartless, but she's not stupid. The Spideys of the world are, and her brand of expression inspires them to say similarly threatening things, and mean them. Spidey is a good example of the kind of marginal intellect that actually buys into this kind of BS.