Anime on Bluray?

[Quiksilver]

I'm really hoping manufactures start putting anime on bluray discs, I mean anime is usually well over 25 episodes long and with usual DVD's you can only fit 3 to 4 episodes per disc, at least with 50 gig bluray discs you can fit 15 to 20 episodes, per disc as long as they don't be like "hey, lets make HD anime" cause that imo would be a waste of space.

It would really suck having to buy Bleach on DVD considering it is at what 166 episodes? 3 to 4 episodes per disc... well you do the math... it would just suck...

On another note, i'm not saying no anime should be HD because theirs an occasional few that might come out well, like ghost in the shell stand alone complex.

 

[SaltBoy]

Ummm... a lot of anime shows *are* in HD nowadays. I don't see Blu-ray for anything but HD resolution.

 

[austin316]

they will start releasing Anime on Blu-Ray around July 13th, 2008.

 

[Quiksilver]

Originally posted by: austin316
they will start releasing Anime on Blu-Ray around July 13th, 2008.

source? I'm curious what animes they'll start putting out...

 

[ZetaEpyon]

Wow, here are my thoughts on this:

1. Anime is not usually well over 25 episodes. Really long series like Bleach, Naruto, et al. are the exception, not the rule.
2. HD anime already exists, and there is more of it airing every season. You might not think so, but most benefits greatly from the extended resolution (sharper lines, etc.).
3. There already are anime Bluray discs, and yes, they have 3-4 episodes generally, because they're in high definition.
4. I would be really pissed if someone released SD anime on Bluray discs, if a real HD version was possible. If the show was only created in SD, then I guess it would be ok.

Edit: Beaten to the punch, damn. Anyway, it's not so much that anime will be on Bluray soon, some already is. Funimation released a couple Dragonball Z movies on Bluray (not exactly the best example, but whatever), and Bandai Visual has several things out as well.

 

[MrWizzard]

It's more about the money than the space.

FYI the Gantz dvds only contain 2 episodes each I think. Made more money that way.

 

[ZetaEpyon]

Originally posted by: MrWizzard
It's more about the money than the space.

FYI the Gantz dvds only contain 2 episodes each I think. Made more money that way.

No, half of Gantz (the first half) had two episodes per DVD. The second half has a more normal 3-4 eps. In addition, the volumes with 2 eps each were only like $12 or $13 MSRP, so the cost wasn't that much different in the end.

 

[ZetaEpyon]

Originally posted by: Quiksilver
On another note, i'm not saying no anime should be HD because theirs an occasional few that might come out well, like ghost in the shell stand alone complex.

Not might, but did. Stand Alone Complex aired in HD in Japan, and oh does it look good.

 

[Quiksilver]

Originally posted by: ZetaEpyon
Wow, here are my thoughts on this:

1. Anime is not usually well over 25 episodes. Really long series like Bleach, Naruto, et al. are the exception, not the rule.

Let me clarify, Most popular anime is well over 25 episodes, Eureka Seven, Full Metal Alchemist, Samurai Champloo, Cowboy Bebop, S-Cryed, Black Lagoon, etc.

2. HD anime already exists, and there is more of it airing every season. You might not think so, but most benefits greatly from the extended resolution (sharper lines, etc.).

Actually I have noticed it has looked better in recent years but if thats true and they already putting HD anime onto standard DVD's.

3. There already are anime Bluray discs, and yes, they have 3-4 episodes generally, because they're in high definition.

why can't they be smart about it, and if it's about money just charge more per disc.

4. I would be really pissed if someone released SD anime on Bluray discs, if a real HD version was possible. If the show was only created in SD, then I guess it would be ok.

I don't know about you but if anime is already being made HD then why would you be pissed? I would rather have the same quality HD anime we got now, but with more episodes per disc, than having to purchase like 20 discs for the whole series when I could just get 3..


**edit**

Not might, but did. Stand Alone Complex aired in HD in Japan, and oh does it look good.

When did this happen and why wasn't I aware of this

 

[sutahz]

SD shows on an HDTV don't look so great so why would you want to pay for poor quality?

 

[Sureshot324]

They should make it HD resolution but heavily compressed with a good codec like h264. Since animation has a lot of flat shaded areas, image quality won't be hurt that much by compression.

In reality though, they won't do it since many people wouldn't be willing to pay nearly as much if a whole season is on one disk. Even though they cost next to nothing to manufacture, people get more of a perception of value if they get many disks.

 

[MrPickins]

I've often wondered the same thing about SD TV shows. I'd love to consolidate the eleventy billion Friends discs my wife has.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Appleseed Ex Machina looked nice in 1080 HD on blu-ray, but it was more like videogame cutscene 3D than cel animation.

Paprika was cel animation and also looked nice in HD.

The idea of putting a bunch of 480i standard-def episodes on one blu disc will make sense in several years once the manufacturing cost of blu discs is lower and a lot more people have players.

There are many shows done with digital painting and 480i resolution computer graphics that can't just be re-scanned to 1080p like you can do with 35mm film movies. For those shows it might make sense to just let the blu-ray player do the upscaling and use existing MPEG2 DVD encodings. But you would still be able to improve the quality over DVD of the shows by upscaling to 1080 using the original masters, and/or increasing the bitrate over what DVD allows.

 

[Praetor]

Originally posted by: Quiksilver
I'm really hoping manufactures start putting anime on bluray discs, I mean anime is usually well over 25 episodes long and with usual DVD's you can only fit 3 to 4 episodes per disc, at least with 50 gig bluray discs you can fit 15 to 20 episodes, per disc as long as they don't be like "hey, lets make HD anime" cause that imo would be a waste of space.

It would really suck having to buy Bleach on DVD considering it is at what 166 episodes? 3 to 4 episodes per disc... well you do the math... it would just suck...

On another note, i'm not saying no anime should be HD because theirs an occasional few that might come out well, like ghost in the shell stand alone complex.

The problem with your line of thinking is the license holders want to put more episodes on a disc and cut back on the number of discs that they can charge for.

 

[uhohs]

anime dvds in japan is lol because there's 2 episodes per dvd and they charge 40-60usd

<_<

 

[konakona]

Originally posted by: ZetaEpyon
Wow, here are my thoughts on this:

1. Anime is not usually well over 25 episodes. Really long series like Bleach, Naruto, et al. are the exception, not the rule.
2. HD anime already exists, and there is more of it airing every season. You might not think so, but most benefits greatly from the extended resolution (sharper lines, etc.).
3. There already are anime Bluray discs, and yes, they have 3-4 episodes generally, because they're in high definition.
4. I would be really pissed if someone released SD anime on Bluray discs, if a real HD version was possible. If the show was only created in SD, then I guess it would be ok.

Edit: Beaten to the punch, damn. Anyway, it's not so much that anime will be on Bluray soon, some already is. Funimation released a couple Dragonball Z movies on Bluray (not exactly the best example, but whatever), and Bandai Visual has several things out as well.

yes. In fact I heard some very good things about the bluray version of Air, which was one of the first few that was released. Back when HD-DVD was still back in business, I was told quite a few influential companies like Pony Canyon were aligned with them.. You know what happened from there on, so bluray all the way it is for now

To be brutally honest to the OP, shows like bleach, naruto are more "kiddy" shows, meaning that they cater younger audiences. otaku fanbase that is able and willing to pay the premium would have somewhat different tastes IMO. Also, those who actually buy DVDs want tons of extras - all sorts of incentives including posters, figures, cellphone straps, artbooks or whatnot, or physical media with good cover at least - , part of the whole reason why they spend money on that stuff at all. What I am saying is having less of tanginble stuff is not a plus from the potential buyers' perspective either.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: ZetaEpyon
Wow, here are my thoughts on this:

1. Anime is not usually well over 25 episodes. Really long series like Bleach, Naruto, et al. are the exception, not the rule.
2. HD anime already exists, and there is more of it airing every season. You might not think so, but most benefits greatly from the extended resolution (sharper lines, etc.).
3. There already are anime Bluray discs, and yes, they have 3-4 episodes generally, because they're in high definition.
4. I would be really pissed if someone released SD anime on Bluray discs, if a real HD version was possible. If the show was only created in SD, then I guess it would be ok.

Edit: Beaten to the punch, damn. Anyway, it's not so much that anime will be on Bluray soon, some already is. Funimation released a couple Dragonball Z movies on Bluray (not exactly the best example, but whatever), and Bandai Visual has several things out as well.

Did they butcher the shit out of them like those "ZOMG WIDESCREEN" DVD releases of DBZ?

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Quiksilver

Originally posted by: ZetaEpyon
Wow, here are my thoughts on this:

1. Anime is not usually well over 25 episodes. Really long series like Bleach, Naruto, et al. are the exception, not the rule.

Let me clarify, Most popular anime is well over 25 episodes, Eureka Seven, Full Metal Alchemist, Samurai Champloo, Cowboy Bebop, S-Cryed, Black Lagoon, etc.

thats still wrong, the majoirity of animes are 24-26 eps long, most are 2 seasons (13 eps per season) the really long ones like Bleach, Naruto, DBZ arnt that common

 

[Throckmorton]

Even if they are HD, shouldn't they compress really well because anime has fewer colors and lower framerate than video?

 

[Injury]

You're on crack if you think they'll make like... an entire season on 1 or 2 disks... unless you want to pay $150 for it.

Think about it now. It's often $20+ for one disc with 3-4 episodes on it. Why would they give up those HUGE profits from a niche market that WILL pay for it if they want it bad enough or will have no qualms with bootlegging/pirating it if they have to pay at all.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Quiksilver
Let me clarify, Most popular anime is well over 25 episodes, Eureka Seven, Full Metal Alchemist, Samurai Champloo, Cowboy Bebop, S-Cryed, Black Lagoon, etc.

Most anime have 26 episodes or less and this includes quite a few popular series. I love how you listed Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Scryed as an example when they have 26 episodes :roll:.

Oh and Black Lagoon only has 12 episodes and the "sequel" only has 12.

Originally posted by: uhohs
anime dvds in japan is lol because there's 2 episodes per dvd and they charge 40-60usd

<_<

Ya, I keep tellin' em that we get off easy .

 

[zoiks]

Anime on Bluray? That would be two reasons not to buy blu-ray.

 

[konakona]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Quiksilver

Originally posted by: ZetaEpyon
Wow, here are my thoughts on this:

1. Anime is not usually well over 25 episodes. Really long series like Bleach, Naruto, et al. are the exception, not the rule.

Let me clarify, Most popular anime is well over 25 episodes, Eureka Seven, Full Metal Alchemist, Samurai Champloo, Cowboy Bebop, S-Cryed, Black Lagoon, etc.

thats still wrong, the majoirity of animes are 24-26 eps long, most are 2 seasons (13 eps per season) the really long ones like Bleach, Naruto, DBZ arnt that common

to my knowledge, the usual process is either a series is only 12-13 eps long (1 kuru), or they prepare for two successive 12-13 lumps (2 kuru), depending on how well it does in its first phase. Some shows even get pulled during the second kuru (think Sumomomomomo). Some of the very best shows are just 1 kuru, for it is very reasonable to guess how much work would be put into making a quality show. When the crowd is less critical, or the show is deemed to have guaranteed viewers even with half sloppy work, they tend to have long seasons.

 

[Quiksilver]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: Quiksilver
Let me clarify, Most popular anime is well over 25 episodes, Eureka Seven, Full Metal Alchemist, Samurai Champloo, Cowboy Bebop, S-Cryed, Black Lagoon, etc.

Most anime have 26 episodes or less and this includes quite a few popular series. I love how you listed Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Scryed as an example when they have 26 episodes :roll:.

Oh and Black Lagoon only has 12 episodes and the "sequel" only has 12.

Originally posted by: uhohs
anime dvds in japan is lol because there's 2 episodes per dvd and they charge 40-60usd

<_<

Ya, I keep tellin' em that we get off easy .

26 episodes are still over 25 episodes, while it's not well over it is still over, but I could have swore black lagoon and cowboy bebop had 26 episodes in them but I just checked and it was indeed 24 which is close enough.

I do know a few anime's that aren't even about 15 episodes, a more recent one I seen being devil may cry actually but I really haven't watched too much anime less than 15 ep's.

I don't really count addition seasons or sequels as a separate anime either unless one is absolutely crap and the other isn't (like naruto and naurto shippoden [spelling?])

Anyway If it's 2 to 4 episodes for $20 per dvd, I'd gladly pay $200 for a single blu-disc for the same content in a smaller package. It's all I'm saying overall.

 

[SonicIce]

When are they going to start using vector graphics? Infinate resolution, anyone?