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Animal welfare group gives Ohio low score in dealing with wildlife

Macamus Prime

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You know, it's not about keeping a living being, that you shouldn't be keeping, and treating it as property - it's about the economy and business.
 
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Was it really necessary for them to shoot the baboon?

I too thought that these needless killings of these majestic animals was a little overboard. Couldn't they have just tranquilized them? There aren't a whole lot of big cats left in the world today and they are arguably endangered.
 

alkemyst

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They simply were not prepared with the proper tranq's and decided to do what dudes with guns do...


They are using the excuse that tranqs wouldn't have worked at night...but this was really a clusterfuck from the start and now they know they fucked up.
 

bfdd

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I don't see the big issue. Why anyone has any beef with the police force is beyond me. I would have preferred they capture them all alive and see to it they were given proper homes, it was night time and people were potentially in danger. So far safer to just kill them all and give them a proper burial. We should all be pissed at the asshole that took his life then put them in this situation, not what people did when handed a bum one.
 

Schadenfroh

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The police are damned if they do, damned if they don't. I'm sure that they did not have loads of tranq guns and trained animal control specialists on hand to distribute across the county. It is not often that something like this occurs.

If one of the beasts were to kill an innocent before rounding them up the more humane way, the local population would have been up in arms.
 

Lemon law

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What an entire cluster fuck from beginning to an as yet unknown end. What is maybe missing in action was that the root cause was in Ohio's lack of regulation. And then we suddenly blame some undermanned Ohio police dept for failing to humanely being able to deal with the problem??

When they lack the resources or assets, or knowledge to better deal with the problem.

But no no no, all common sense regulations are always evil, especially in Ohio where regulations are the weakest.

Will we learn anything from this mess, somehow I doubt it.

Lions and Tigers and Bears, and a barrel of monkeys, oh my, slay them all for the sin of being wild animals when their mentally ill owner let them out of their cages unfed.

But it will never will occur to us, that such animals should only be dealt with by responsible zoo keepers.
 

cubby1223

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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/10/ohio-wildlife-care-problem.html

When I first read this I did think the cops over reacted until I saw the animal list...

"Forty-eight were killed: 18 tigers, nine lions, eight lionesses, six black bears, three mountain lions, two grizzly bears, a baboon and a wolf."
Who fucking cares about this group?

The situation is more chaos than control, and the police are erring on the side of saving human life.

Give the jackass who owned these animals a poor score. Or this group fly their asses over to Ohio and save the animals themselves instead of just commenting from afar.
 
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cubby1223

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What is maybe missing in action was that the root cause was in Ohio's lack of regulation.
Yes! For once, you, Lemon Law, are spot on! We must DEMAND government inspect every residence every month for exotic animals! We must protect ourselves!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

woolfe9999

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I can't really blame the cops but I hate to see tigers get killed. There are so few of them left. :(
 

cubby1223

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Why do these activist groups not bitch at local governments when they do mosquito spraying in the summertime? A living creature is a living creature. Why is one more valuable than another?
 

Karl Agathon

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I can't really blame the cops but I hate to see tigers get killed. There are so few of them left. :(
Same here, I realize what had to be done. Doesnt make it any easier to see pics of the dead Lions, Tigers and other animals
 
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bfdd

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Why do these activist groups not bitch at local governments when they do mosquito spraying in the summertime? A living creature is a living creature. Why is one more valuable than another?
They have no problem eating plants either. They're morons who project human intelligence and emotion onto animals which lack the capabilities to view the world or experience like we do.
 

RampantAndroid

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What an entire cluster fuck from beginning to an as yet unknown end. What is maybe missing in action was that the root cause was in Ohio's lack of regulation. And then we suddenly blame some undermanned Ohio police dept for failing to humanely being able to deal with the problem??

When they lack the resources or assets, or knowledge to better deal with the problem.

But no no no, all common sense regulations are always evil, especially in Ohio where regulations are the weakest.

Will we learn anything from this mess, somehow I doubt it.

Lions and Tigers and Bears, and a barrel of monkeys, oh my, slay them all for the sin of being wild animals when their mentally ill owner let them out of their cages unfed.

But it will never will occur to us, that such animals should only be dealt with by responsible zoo keepers.
This. It should be totally illegal for an individual to own an animal such as a Lion. A Zoo, and other centers trying to help them...yes...but regulated.
 

alkemyst

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They have no problem eating plants either. They're morons who project human intelligence and emotion onto animals which lack the capabilities to view the world or experience like we do.
You guys serious? You realize there are higher orders of species.

Higher level animals do have 'moods' and human-like emotions. They also possess intelligence.

The main debate is usually is any animal worth more than the life of even the worst human.

Those that talk about eating vegetation when discussing 'intelligent life' are pretty fucking ignorant.

Then again the most science many have had was given in grade school.
 

sportage

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Tea baggers escaped from some cage too? The same "final solution" just might be a good resolution to that problem? All I know is 9 out of 10 animals agree with the suggestion.

But seriously... It was the past Ohio democratic governor that realized a possible problem with any Joe owning a wild tiger, and that democratic governor place a ban on owning/raising such dangerous animals.

Then...naturally...the incoming republican governor said no more ban. Hurts small business. Big government bad. Killer animals in your basement good. Fire bad. Ice cream good. Round earth bad. Flat earth good. I’m your new republican governor. I’m going to be a gooder governor.

What killed these animals? EVERY FU-ing ass that voted for that gooder republican governor.
Blood on YOUR hands all U oHio FU-Kups...
And the band plays on....
 

monovillage

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Tea baggers escaped from some cage too? The same "final solution" just might be a good resolution to that problem? All I know is 9 out of 10 animals agree with the suggestion.

But seriously... It was the past Ohio democratic governor that realized a possible problem with any Joe owning a wild tiger, and that democratic governor place a ban on owning/raising such dangerous animals.

Then...naturally...the incoming republican governor said no more ban. Hurts small business. Big government bad. Killer animals in your basement good. Fire bad. Ice cream good. Round earth bad. Flat earth good. I’m your new republican governor. I’m going to be a gooder governor.

What killed these animals? EVERY FU-ing ass that voted for that gooder republican governor.
Blood on YOUR hands all U oHio FU-Kups...
And the band plays on....
Wow, you're an idiot.
 

bfdd

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You guys serious? You realize there are higher orders of species.

Higher level animals do have 'moods' and human-like emotions. They also possess intelligence.

The main debate is usually is any animal worth more than the life of even the worst human.

Those that talk about eating vegetation when discussing 'intelligent life' are pretty fucking ignorant.

Then again the most science many have had was given in grade school.
human-like != human. tomato's are like an apple, that doesn't mean I want tomato sauce and pork chops. Intelligence is arbitrary so blibbidyblooblah using it as some sort of "guideline" for what is "ok" to eat and what isn't is retarded.

Do you have any idea how fucking stupid turkeys are? Any clue whatsoever? You know they drown in the rain if they don't have a roof over their heads right? Yes we can't eat that thing because it's sooo intelligent, not. It's because it bleeds and has doppie eyes, that's why they don't want to eat it. Lets eat all of the oxygen producing plants, but those idiotic turkeys? yeah, they can live. there is no logic, mine included, which justifies what should and should not be consumed as food.
 

Capt Caveman

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human-like != human. tomato's are like an apple, that doesn't mean I want tomato sauce and pork chops. Intelligence is arbitrary so blibbidyblooblah using it as some sort of "guideline" for what is "ok" to eat and what isn't is retarded.

Do you have any idea how fucking stupid turkeys are? Any clue whatsoever? You know they drown in the rain if they don't have a roof over their heads right? Yes we can't eat that thing because it's sooo intelligent, not. It's because it bleeds and has doppie eyes, that's why they don't want to eat it. Lets eat all of the oxygen producing plants, but those idiotic turkeys? yeah, they can live. there is no logic, mine included, which justifies what should and should not be consumed as food.
You're talking about turkeys that humans have genetically altered for consumption. And an animal that is isn't a high level predator known for high intelligence.
 

bfdd

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You're talking about turkeys that humans have genetically altered for consumption. And an animal that is isn't a high level predator known for high intelligence.
Pigs are considered a high level predator? You realize they're smarter than most other animals right? Being a "high level predator" doesn't denote intelligence.
 

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