Angry beyond belief. Any router that can block Bittorrent traffic completely?

[amdhunter]

Long story short. Neice is staying over, and brought her own laptop. I found out today that she has been using Bittorrent to transfer almost 100GB of traffic over the last month or so.

I am not pissed about the bandwidth usage, but I am extremely pissed at the fact that she is moving potentially copywritten work over my ISP. Extremely pissed isn't even the word. She is young/computer saavy and staying here when I am at work and I do not want to stop her internet access completely.

I haven't figured out how to block anything on my Belkin N+ (only forward ports) and I am pissed beyond belief.

I literally found out 10 minutes ago and am so mad I can't think straight...lol Is there any router that can just detect and block bittorrent traffic completely?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Don't be passive aggressive. This is NOT a hardware issue. Talk to your niece and let her know how you feel.

 

[amdhunter]

Don't be passive aggressive. This is NOT a hardware issue. Talk to your niece and let her know how you feel.

Told her already. Nothing to stop her from still doing it. She's 24, computer saavy and knows enough that if I blocked the wi-fi, she'd just plug in straight to the router. She wouldn't have the guts to disconnect the cable modem since she knows I RDP in to my computer to do work.

I don't want to get into it with her.

 

[scannall]

This thread has a lot of useful info on blocking out P2P.

http://www.avforums.com/forums/netw...wnloads-torrents-belkin-n1-vision-router.html

 

[amdhunter]

This thread has a lot of useful info on blocking out P2P.

http://www.avforums.com/forums/netw...wnloads-torrents-belkin-n1-vision-router.html

N1 has a load more options than my N+. Actually, every other router I've owned had more options than this POS. Argh. There is literally no way to block ports whatsoever on this router, only forward them.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Told her already. Nothing to stop her from still doing it. She's 24, computer saavy and knows enough that if I blocked the wi-fi, she'd just plug in straight to the router. She wouldn't have the guts to disconnect the cable modem since she knows I RDP in to my computer to do work.

I don't want to get into it with her.

You are STILL being passive aggressive. Has she done it again after you talked to her? If so, you have two choices. You can inconvenience yourself and disconnect all access period or, you can man up and tell her she is no longer welcome in your home. Do you REALLY think your relationship will be less troublesome if you actually manage to block all torrenting?

 

[amdhunter]

You are STILL being passive aggressive. Has she done it again after you talked to her? If so, you have two choices. You can inconvenience yourself and disconnect all access period or, you can man up and tell her she is no longer welcome in your home. Do you REALLY think your relationship will be less troublesome if you actually manage to block all torrenting?

My brothers home unfortunately. Getting into it with her, means I'll get into it with him. lol.

 

[amdhunter]

Meh, just enabled mac filtering, she'll have to either stop torrenting or no access whatsoever.

Screw it. I am not wasting time or money to block illegal traffic on my own network.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

My brothers home unfortunately. Getting into it with her, means I'll get into it with him. lol.

I AM sorry but, you can not solve family problems with technology. If your goal is to avoid conflict, get a hotel room. I don't recommend it though.

 

[skyking]

Agree with the brewer on this one. It's a people problem.

 

[postmortemIA]

just report her to RIAA, problem solved.

j/k

 

[VirtualLarry]

print up a fake letter from your ISP, claiming they detected copyright infringement (may require inspecting her laptop to find out the name of the files or content actually downloaded, to make it seem realistic), and demanding some medium-large amount of money, to prevent them from taking you to court. Demand that she pay that amount to you, so that you can (ostensibly) pay that to your ISP to avoid a lawsuit.

Either get her to pay, in which case you profit, or get her to cease and desist.

Edit: My opinion is that Torrenting is inherently unsafe, legally speaking, if you are using it for non-free copyrighted works (Linux excluded). It's ridiculously easy to obtain the IP addresses of all the other computers in the swarm uploading that content, and then to demand that the ISP contact the user, or get the user's info from the ISP in a subpoena.

 

[Smoblikat]

Tell her not to do it, or tell her to start paying your internet bills. Im not sure why your brother has anything to do with it, is he physically larger than you? If not than dont worry about it.

 

[Modelworks]

You need something that can recognize the packets as torrents. Old pc will work, p200 or greater.
http://www.pfsense.org/

 

[wirednuts]

it would be hilarious if you had an adult conversation with her and she truthfully reveals shes been watching netflix. just that alone for a few hours a day and easily hit 10+ GB each day. ive been pushing 300GB+ per month, and its all legal stuff. have fun making enemies with your family

 

[wirednuts]

print up a fake letter from your ISP, claiming they detected copyright infringement (may require inspecting her laptop to find out the name of the files or content actually downloaded, to make it seem realistic), and demanding some medium-large amount of money, to prevent them from taking you to court. Demand that she pay that amount to you, so that you can (ostensibly) pay that to your ISP to avoid a lawsuit.

really? a fake letter? shes 24 not 6....

 

[NetGuySC]

Maybe use OpenDNS. I know they have option to block p2p and proxies, among about twenty other categories.
I use it on my router to block adult related sites, phishing and others inappropriate categories on my home network. I have six children accessing the internet and opendns has eased my mind somewhat.
Use opendns, password protect your router and I believe it may work.

 

[heymrdj]

Maybe use OpenDNS. I know they have option to block p2p and proxies, among about twenty other categories.
I use it on my router to block adult related sites, phishing and others inappropriate categories on my home network. I have six children accessing the internet and opendns has eased my mind somewhat.
Use opendns, password protect your router and I believe it may work.

Open Network and Sharing Center, properties, tcp/ip v4, manually set dns, 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4, apply and close. No more opendns blockin teh pr0ns. It works really well in places that can use gpos to force the inability to access internet properties. .

 

[NetGuySC]

Open Network and Sharing Center, properties, tcp/ip v4, manually set dns, 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4, apply and close. No more opendns blockin teh pr0ns. It works really well in places that can use gpos to force the inability to access internet properties. .

Even if it's my password protected router that directed at OpenDNS?

 

[heymrdj]

Even if it's my password protected router that directed at OpenDNS?

Yes, all you're getting with 99% of routers is the DNS settings that the DHCP server tells the computers that get an address. By manually setting DNS you can avoid the DNS server of the router completely. You can block this by blocking port 53 on the router. But this can also have some odd results. You can also install opendns on things like Tomato which adds a route to all traffic, forcing it through opendns's servers regardless of the manual settings. But if you're router is not modded, or you don't have something like a Cisco ASA that can route traffic forcefully through opendns, then simply having the access to change the dns server on your client system is enough to bypass.

 

[vailr]

My brothers home unfortunately. Getting into it with her, means I'll get into it with him. lol.

So: you're renting a room at your brother's place, but you have your own paid-for internet access?
What about your brother's internet access?
Does he pay any portion of the ISP bill? Is the niece in question, the brother's daughter?
Seems like the best solution would be: to have 2 completely separate ISP accounts, one for only you & a separate one for your brother & his daughter. Or else: transfer the single ISP account to your brother's name, and let him worry about any bit-torrenting that's going on. Re-imburse him (in cash $'s) for your fair portion of the ISP bill, but keep the account in his name.

 

[NetGuySC]

Yes, all you're getting with 99% of routers is the DNS settings that the DHCP server tells the computers that get an address. By manually setting DNS you can avoid the DNS server of the router completely. You can block this by blocking port 53 on the router. But this can also have some odd results. You can also install opendns on things like Tomato which adds a route to all traffic, forcing it through opendns's servers regardless of the manual settings. But if you're router is not modded, or you don't have something like a Cisco ASA that can route traffic forcefully through opendns, then simply having the access to change the dns server on your client system is enough to bypass.

Thanks for the education

 

[NetGuySC]

OP, maybe if you enforced a bandwidth allocation on the router. Some routers are capable of this, don't know if yours is.

 

[Pia]

Meh, just enabled mac filtering, she'll have to either stop torrenting or no access whatsoever.

Screw it. I am not wasting time or money to block illegal traffic on my own network.

This, or making responsibility of the network officially the brother's or the niece's are the only solutions suitable for adults. Playing internet cop wouldn't have been.

 

[DigDog]

Since she is computer-savvy, ask her how you can block her from using BTorrent, she's bound to know.

*irony*