Android just isn't a stable OS

[OneOfTheseDays]

I'm running 2.1 on my HTC Incredible and I can say hands down this is not a stable operating system at all.

I get application crashes ALL the time. And I'm not talking third party apps, I'm talking basic services like messaging and calendar. The OS is pretty to look at, very customizable, and has a decent selection of apps but in terms of the one thing I would have expected Google to nail.....stability.....it leaves much to be desired.

I dislike Apple products in general, but for phones they really have Google beat. The iOS is rock solid.

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If you have specific issues with your HTC Incredible that you want help with, go ahead and post them. But posting up that the entire OS is unstable seems like an attempt to bait/troll the Android crowd.

 

[zerocool84]

I've never had the basic things like calendar or messaging crash on me, just some of the 3rd party apps. I've seen stuff on iPhone crash many times but yes it's more solid.

 

[Bateluer]

I'm running 2.1 on my HTC Incredible and I can say hands down this is not a stable operating system at all.

I get application crashes ALL the time. And I'm not talking third party apps, I'm talking basic services like messaging and calendar. The OS is pretty to look at, very customizable, and has a decent selection of apps but in terms of the one thing I would have expected Google to nail.....stability.....it leaves much to be desired.

I dislike Apple products in general, but for phones they really have Google beat. The iOS is rock solid.

Must be why we all read about the app crashes and issues with iOS 4.

Seriously though, what steps have you taken to T/S your crashes? Obviously, they shouldn't be crashing like that. I'd back up your data, then do a Factory Reset on the phone. I'm assuming your not rooted and don't have access to cache cleaners or Fix Permissions scripts? If the reset doesn't resolve it, I'd contact VZW for a possible replacement.

 

[notposting]

The Incredible runs SenseUI. Maybe you should change the title to "HTC bloatware and fluff unstable". Which isn't likely with the millions of Sense users who don't have that problem...or Android users who don't have that problem.

My phone is pretty much rock solid right now...a Droid running BB 0.4, a 1.1GHz kernel, and plenty of stuff running. But sure...let's blame Android.

 

[rudeguy]

I'm running 2.1 on my HTC Incredible and I can say hands down this is not a stable operating system at all.

I get application crashes ALL the time. And I'm not talking third party apps, I'm talking basic services like messaging and calendar. The OS is pretty to look at, very customizable, and has a decent selection of apps but in terms of the one thing I would have expected Google to nail.....stability.....it leaves much to be desired.

I dislike Apple products in general, but for phones they really have Google beat. The iOS is rock solid.

so in other words; you broke your phone and its Android's fault?

I have messed up my phone in every possible way and I have never had calendar or messaging crash. And I use both those programs a ton.

Why not try to figure out what's wrong and....I don't know....fix it?

 

[zsdersw]

I'm running 2.1 on my HTC Incredible and I can say hands down this is not a stable operating system at all.

I get application crashes ALL the time. And I'm not talking third party apps, I'm talking basic services like messaging and calendar. The OS is pretty to look at, very customizable, and has a decent selection of apps but in terms of the one thing I would have expected Google to nail.....stability.....it leaves much to be desired.

I dislike Apple products in general, but for phones they really have Google beat. The iOS is rock solid.

Troubleshooting FAIL.

 

[tatteredpotato]

I've had an EVO since release and I've gotten maybe a dozen crashes. Many of them are because I screw with stuff I shouldn't though.

Do a factory reset.

 

[PuppettMaster001]

I've had an EVO since release and I've gotten maybe a dozen crashes. Many of them are because I screw with stuff I shouldn't though.

Do a factory reset.

Ditto. I've had the G1, MyTouch, Nexus One, and now the Samsung Vibrant and the only times I had problems were because I did something wrong or an application that I installed wasn't playing nice.

 

[Pliablemoose]

I think the other posters have it nailed, pull off some of your apps till it's stable, try to figure out which one is crashing your phone.

 

[boomhower]

I would disagree as well. Stock, the phone is fine. I have mine rooted, ROM's, and modded. It is still very very stable with only a few crashes here and there. Considering it's a homebrew ROM with many apps, I think that's reasonable.

 

[Demo24]

I saw something pretty impressive a couple weeks ago, my droid force closed out of the phone part. Probably didn't help it was at like 50c, and running some other stuff but I found it pretty funny.

 

[AMDZen]

I've never had the basic things like calendar or messaging crash on me, just some of the 3rd party apps. I've seen stuff on iPhone crash many times but yes it's more solid.

I've had an iPhone for 3 years, the only application that ever crashed were apps that were incompatible with the version of the OS I was running, or jailbroken apps for which I would install and run any way even though they showed incompatible as well. It would say 3.1 or something required, and even though I was running 3.0 I would install it any way.

Apps won't even install if you are running a diff version but you can get around it by going into the SystemVersion.plist file and simply changing the OS numbers from 3.0 to 3.1, and then the app store + Cydia simply thinks you're running that version.

The final exception is when a new OS is out, like iOS4 now, some apps aren't yet compatible with it - but they say as much right on the app store. You can install it any way, without any tinkering, but it might still crash. MTVNews is an example.

Android might be the same thing. It might say right on the app that it was meant for 2.0 and people running 2.1 shouldn't expect it to run perfectly if it wasn't yet updated for 2.1. I know 2.2 is already running into that on many apps since they have not yet been updated.

 

[tatteredpotato]

Android might be the same thing. It might say right on the app that it was meant for 2.0 and people running 2.1 shouldn't expect it to run perfectly if it wasn't yet updated for 2.1. I know 2.2 is already running into that on many apps since they have not yet been updated.

I'm not sure of exactly how it works, but I think if an app isn't compatible with a version it doesn't get listed in the market. I know when I upgraded to CM6 for 2.2 many of my apps weren't in the store, however I could still download the apks and install that way. I'm not sure if that was an issue with CM6 or Android in general that caused the apps to be missing though.

 

[Narmer]

I've had an iPhone for 3 years, the only application that ever crashed were apps that were incompatible with the version of the OS I was running, or jailbroken apps for which I would install and run any way even though they showed incompatible as well. It would say 3.1 or something required, and even though I was running 3.0 I would install it any way.

Apps won't even install if you are running a diff version but you can get around it by going into the SystemVersion.plist file and simply changing the OS numbers from 3.0 to 3.1, and then the app store + Cydia simply thinks you're running that version.

The final exception is when a new OS is out, like iOS4 now, some apps aren't yet compatible with it - but they say as much right on the app store. You can install it any way, without any tinkering, but it might still crash. MTVNews is an example.

Android might be the same thing. It might say right on the app that it was meant for 2.0 and people running 2.1 shouldn't expect it to run perfectly if it wasn't yet updated for 2.1. I know 2.2 is already running into that on many apps since they have not yet been updated.

MTVNews? Eeeewwwwwwwwww........

 

[Tequila]

I'm running 2.1 on my HTC Incredible and I can say hands down this is not a stable operating system at all.

I get application crashes ALL the time. And I'm not talking third party apps, I'm talking basic services like messaging and calendar. The OS is pretty to look at, very customizable, and has a decent selection of apps but in terms of the one thing I would have expected Google to nail.....stability.....it leaves much to be desired.

I dislike Apple products in general, but for phones they really have Google beat. The iOS is rock solid.

Either you have defective phone OR I'm going to take a stab here and guess you installed a task killer that automatically kills tasks when memory is low. If so then remove it. There's no shortage of discussions of people who had similar problems when running a task killer at androidforums and androidcentral (which I highly recommend over this forum for advice anyway

My Evo has been rock solid for two weeks. Don't go blaming android just because of your phone.

 

[rudeguy]

Either you have defective phone OR I'm going to take a stab here and guess you installed a task killer that automatically kills tasks when memory is low. If so then remove it. There's no shortage of discussions of people who had similar problems when running a task killer at androidforums and androidcentral (which I highly recommend over this forum for advice anyway

My Evo has been rock solid for two weeks. Don't go blaming android just because of your lack of knowing how your phone works.

agreed

 

[KingGheedora]

I have seen some minor instability in the Android 2.1 as well. I can't remember any specific instances in which the OS or any of the built-in apps crashed. Mainly the issues I've had were related to Google Listen (which is not bundled with the OS), but rather is a 20% project that seems to not be worked on very much at all. I haven't had a chance to try a more robust podcast app yet.

But I saw very extreme instability, and slowness in the iOS on my iphone 3G. Comparing the two I'd say the iOS was much less stable, and much, much slower as well. I'm convinced they knowingly make their OS run slower and slower on their older iPhone versions with each release, to convince people to want to buy a new iphone.

 

[rudeguy]

^^ Doggcatcher. Pay for it, its well worth it

 

[Patranus]

When you have to write an OS for multiple platforms with numerous components you run into the same problems Windows has with stability.

 

[AMDZen]

When you have to write an OS for multiple platforms with numerous components you run into the same problems Windows has with stability.

Windows hasn't had any real stability problems since 2003/XP.

The analogy is more appropriate to the days of windows 98. Hopefully, like MS, Google figures it out.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

There is random slowness in the UI that is quite inexplicable. Google's voice search randomly decides when it wants to work. Facebook integration is spotty at best, in particular integration with my existing contacts is very hit or miss. Force closes happen very regularly. No I'm not running task killers.

This just isn't a polished, quality, stable OS. I'm sorry folks, it's not. No matter how much you love Google, this OS is not anywhere near the stability of the iOS (which I have used for several months).

 

[rudeguy]

There is random slowness in the UI that is quite inexplicable. Google's voice search randomly decides when it wants to work. Facebook integration is spotty at best, in particular integration with my existing contacts is very hit or miss. Force closes happen very regularly. No I'm not running task killers.

This just isn't a polished, quality, stable OS. I'm sorry folks, it's not. No matter how much you love Google, this OS is not anywhere near the stability of the iOS (which I have used for several months).

so you are using iOS or Android? I'm confused???


This has been beat to death:

Yes iOS is going to have less bugs because its only on what...3 pieces of hardware? But you are very limited in choices.

Android gives you different make, model and carrier choices. I'm running a myTouch; nearly a year old, with Froyo and a custom theme and I haven't seen a force close in forever. There are MILLIONS of other Android users who agree that Android is a quality, stable OS. So because you had a bug with your one phone, you are ready to generalize a whole OS and tell those millions of people that you know better than them?

OK buddy.

 

[Anubis]

most ap force closes aren't the OS's fault its poorly coded aps. other then the slacker widget which is a POS i never have to force close anything unless i'm fucking around doing abnormal things on the phone and then its my own fault.

 

[JD50]

When you have to write an OS for multiple platforms with numerous components you run into the same problems Windows has with stability.

 

[JD50]

so you are using iOS or Android? I'm confused???


This has been beat to death:

Yes iOS is going to have less bugs because its only on what...3 pieces of hardware? But you are very limited in choices.

Android gives you different make, model and carrier choices. I'm running a myTouch; nearly a year old, with Froyo and a custom theme and I haven't seen a force close in forever. There are MILLIONS of other Android users who agree that Android is a quality, stable OS. So because you had a bug with your one phone, you are ready to generalize a whole OS and tell those millions of people that you know better than them?

OK buddy.

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