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Pliablemoose

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Originally posted by: xxceler8
It seems Verizon is leaning more towards openness with their 2 upcoming android devices. Most notably, the Motorola Sholes. They are putting big development money, as well as Motorola, behind android.

It's odd to see Verizon embrace Andriod, they've been so heavy handed with phones/features in the past.
 

FoBoT

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i love it, especially after having to get a blackberry for work. using the blackberry for 2 months after using my G1 for 10 months, i feel like i had to turn in a 2009 model car for a 1969 chevy impala
 

shortylickens

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: xxceler8
It seems Verizon is leaning more towards openness with their 2 upcoming android devices. Most notably, the Motorola Sholes. They are putting big development money, as well as Motorola, behind android.

It's odd to see Verizon embrace Andriod, they've been so heavy handed with phones/features in the past.
Thats why I am suprised the have any Android phones. Its almost completely opposite of their usual policy.
 

erwos

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: erwos
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
The main reason for RIM to continue is they are unique in the industry in that they own the whole chain from enterprise to device. Server, middleware & device.
There's certainly a market for this. But as you've just implicitly stated, owning the OS doesn't seem to be part of the chain. The BB OS is not really all that secure, it's just easier to remote wipe a BB owned by the company than your personal WinMo phone or iPhone.
BB security goes way beyond 'easy remote wipe'.

The BB OS is pretty much the most secure mobile OS. Never been cracked.
RIM appears to disagree with you:
http://www.reuters.com/article.../idUSTRE55269N20090603

It never became a real vulnerability that was exploited, but the OS is clearly not as perfect as you're claiming.

The iPhone OS has been cracked (jailbreak allows access to the lowest hardware level, the baseband proc) and even the 'hardware' encryption on the GS has been cracked. The BB OS has never been cracked. Every BB is capable ofNSA Suite B level cryptography. Even the little Pearl Flip. If you want to go further BB have a bluetooth Smartcard reader that increases security further, and that has been Coverity Certified for Secure and Quality Code, both at Level 2.
None of this rules out an Android solution. "Suite B" is composed of some very common security algorithms, all of which have been implemented on Linux. And, obviously, you could implement a smartcard reader over Bluetooth on Linux, if it hasn't been done already. Heck, I'd argue that none of this stuff is even OS level, when you get down to it.
 

Pliablemoose

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Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: xxceler8
It seems Verizon is leaning more towards openness with their 2 upcoming android devices. Most notably, the Motorola Sholes. They are putting big development money, as well as Motorola, behind android.

It's odd to see Verizon embrace Andriod, they've been so heavy handed with phones/features in the past.
Thats why I am suprised the have any Android phones. Its almost completely opposite of their usual policy.

I have the feeling that the potential deal with Apple fell through, and Verizon is considering what it needs to do to gain market share.

Ordinary folks are happy with Verizon, anyone tech oriented is frustrated with the way they lock down their network & phones.

I also think they're going to use every trick in to book to attempt to avoid cutting rate plans to gain market share.
 

DivideBYZero

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Still not been cracked. All carriers are pushing out OS4.5 (current OS is v5.0), in which this exploit is fixed/does not exist. So it's been fixed for a very long time. So yeah, it IS as perfect as I claim! ;)