Andrea Yates Conviction overturned because of false testimony

Zysoclaplem

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I'm not defending her in any way, but I hear post-partum depression can be a horrible thing. If it is true she was suffering from it.
 

StageLeft

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Now more legal dollars spent on her. I say mix her half and half with manure and use her for fertilizer.
 
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Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
I'm not defending her in any way, but I hear post-partum depression can be a horrible thing. If it is true she was suffering from it.


sure, but I don't recall and OTHER mothers suffering from it drowning their 3 kids in the bathtub...
 

MacBaine

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Originally posted by: mrrman
another f up in criminal justice system

Are you an idiot or just retarded?

The CJ system fvcked up because they are giving her a new trial because somebody lied on the stand?

This is the best part about our CJ system, you douchebag.
 
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Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: mrrman
another f up in criminal justice system

Are you an idiot or just retarded?

The CJ system fvcked up because they are giving her a new trial because somebody lied on the stand?

This is the best part about our CJ system, you douchebag.


if the PROSECUTOR would have done his job and verified the witnesses claims then this wouldn't have happened.
 

Zysoclaplem

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
I'm not defending her in any way, but I hear post-partum depression can be a horrible thing. If it is true she was suffering from it.


sure, but I don't recall and OTHER mothers suffering from it drowning their 3 kids in the bathtub...

Irrelevant. She is obviously suffering from insanity. You just don't do something like that if you aren't.

In rare instances, postpartum psychosis is diagnosed (one-tenth or two tenths of a percent experience it ((2)) ). When experiencing postpartum psychosis, new mothers can experience auditory hallucinations, as well as delusions and visual hallucinations ((4)), making them lose their sense of what is real and what is false. Treatment is imperative an often times done under immediate hospitalization.

 

Pliablemoose

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In Texas, they hold back prosecutions on some of the victims in the case of multiple murders (because of this kind of legal wrangling), she wasn't tried for 2 of the 5 children, they can use the previous trial as a blueprint for a new one.

 

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Irrelevant. She is obviously suffering from insanity. You just don't do something like that if you aren't.
ANYBODY who kills five people is fvcking nuts. With that line of reasoning you would not be able to convict a serial killer of multiple murders. By definition they are freaking bonkers anyway. This is why the legal defense of insanity is a slippery slope. A normal person doesn't go on a killing spree.
 

cerebusPu

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yeah...they have backup plans for multiple murderers. the DC snipers were only tried for a fraction of their murders in the states that convict easier and give harsher punishments. if there was a technicality that caused it to be a mistrial, they can always do it again with the other murders
 

beer

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They are re-trying her on the three kids.
They can retry her later on the other two.

She WILL end up in prison. This is a justice system formality and it is a necessity. She doesn't deserve the death penalty, but life behind bars.
 

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Michelle Malkin does a good job on covering the person who lied under oath.
Who is Park Dietz? He billed himself as "one of America's foremost forensic psychiatrists" and seems to have been able to insert himself in some of the most famous criminal trials of recent note--including those of Jeffrey Dahmer; the Unabomber, Ted Kacyznski; and would-be presidential assasin John Hinckley.
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: beer
They are re-trying her on the three kids.
They can retry her later on the other two.

She WILL end up in prison. This is a justice system formality and it is a necessity. She doesn't deserve the death penalty, but life behind bars.

How can it be meaningful to punish someone for acts committed during severe psychosis? Psychiatric treatment, maybe a short stay in a psychiatric hospital are called for here, certainly not jail.

edit: that's assuming she was suffering a psychosis. I guess that will have to be determined in the new trial.
 

mrrman

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Fvcking douchebag liar! Now she gets to go free and await retrial.

The part where its stating that she goes FREE is the f up....and UPS YOURS TO MacBaine
 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: beer
They are re-trying her on the three kids.
They can retry her later on the other two.

She WILL end up in prison. This is a justice system formality and it is a necessity. She doesn't deserve the death penalty, but life behind bars.

How can it be meaningful to punish someone for acts committed during severe psychosis? Psychiatric treatment, maybe a short stay in a psychiatric hospital are called for here, certainly not jail.

She KILLED five of her KIDS!

If that doesn't deserve jail time, I don't know what does.
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
I'm not defending her in any way, but I hear post-partum depression can be a horrible thing. If it is true she was suffering from it.


sure, but I don't recall and OTHER mothers suffering from it drowning their 3 kids in the bathtub...

Irrelevant. She is obviously suffering from insanity. You just don't do something like that if you aren't.

In rare instances, postpartum psychosis is diagnosed (one-tenth or two tenths of a percent experience it ((2)) ). When experiencing postpartum psychosis, new mothers can experience auditory hallucinations, as well as delusions and visual hallucinations ((4)), making them lose their sense of what is real and what is false. Treatment is imperative an often times done under immediate hospitalization.

That would explain it if she was suffering from it... but at the time, she was having an affair with another man (not something you do when you're in depression)... who dumped her because he didn't want all the baggage she had. She didn't just kill the kids because auditory hallucinations told her to. She killed her kids, made a lie that some black man did it, so that she would be free of the kids. She wasn't insane, she was very lucid, and had the nation on a man hunt for this supposed blackman.
 

jjones

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: beer
They are re-trying her on the three kids.
They can retry her later on the other two.

She WILL end up in prison. This is a justice system formality and it is a necessity. She doesn't deserve the death penalty, but life behind bars.

How can it be meaningful to punish someone for acts committed during severe psychosis? Psychiatric treatment, maybe a short stay in a psychiatric hospital are called for here, certainly not jail.
Sorry, but if my mother killed me during a severe psychotic episode, it would be my dying wish to want her behind bars so that she's not able to do that again. It's not about treatment or punishment to me, it's about her removal from society.

 

jadinolf

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
I'm not defending her in any way, but I hear post-partum depression can be a horrible thing. If it is true she was suffering from it.


sure, but I don't recall and OTHER mothers suffering from it drowning their 3 kids in the bathtub...

5 kids